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You know I always defend the second amendment. Then today it hit me, guns have changed people. You know who had access to guns in 1700's? Soldiers, and millitas. It took years to reload a rifle at that time. They were not accurate, were no where as "easy" to use a gun nowadays. The amendment loses its logic when technology has advanced so much that it almost makes it out of date.

  • 12.14.2012 7:10 PM PDT

Nahman Jayden, Eff bee eye. I herd that you're the origammy killah...

Ryan was the brother, his younger brother was the Killer.

  • 12.14.2012 7:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
You know I always defend the second amendment. Then today it hit me, guns have changed people. You know who had access to guns in 1700's? Soldiers, and millitas. It took years to reload a rifle at that time. They were not accurate, were no where as "easy" to use a gun nowadays. The amendment loses its logic when technology has advanced so much that it almost makes it out of date.
I guess the first amendment should only apply to print material and spoken word then.
Posted by: GrandmasterNinja
He turned the gun on KIDS!? ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS?! There NEEDS to be strict gun control. We had the rights to bear arms to protect us from the wilds, now we need them to protect us from another guy with a gun. We should become like the UK and ban this -blam!- from ever happening again.
Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 7:17 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 7:16 PM PDT
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I was just watching a BBC interview of a pro gun rights supporter the reporter mentioned that he was happy that he agreed to be interview because they tried to get an interview with more prominent gun rights activists and they all refused

  • 12.14.2012 7:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
You know I always defend the second amendment. Then today it hit me, guns have changed people. You know who had access to guns in 1700's? Soldiers, and millitas. It took years to reload a rifle at that time. They were not accurate, were no where as "easy" to use a gun nowadays. The amendment loses its logic when technology has advanced so much that it almost makes it out of date.
i never really thought about it that way. that's an excellent point there. it would be pretty difficult to go on a mass shooting if you were tackled while reloading your second shot...

  • 12.14.2012 7:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
You know I always defend the second amendment. Then today it hit me, guns have changed people. You know who had access to guns in 1700's? Soldiers, and millitas. It took years to reload a rifle at that time. They were not accurate, were no where as "easy" to use a gun nowadays. The amendment loses its logic when technology has advanced so much that it almost makes it out of date.
I guess the first amendment should only apply to print material and spoken word then.
Posted by: GrandmasterNinja
He turned the gun on KIDS!? ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS?! There NEEDS to be strict gun control. We had the rights to bear arms to protect us from the wilds, now we need them to protect us from another guy with a gun. We should become like the UK and ban this -blam!- from ever happening again.
Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.

The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.

  • 12.14.2012 7:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.
I have the right to defend myself from others using lethal force. Why limit what's the easiest and most effective?
Because you're afraid of it?
Because you don't actually understand it?

[Edited on 12.14.2012 7:25 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 7:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sergeant omega

Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.
Then it's a failure.

Since the Columbine shooting there have been 32 other school shootings in America. Over the same time period there were 14 in the rest of the world.

If guns kept people safe, America would be the safest place in the world. Apperently having over 300000000 guns in the country is failing to keep people safe from guns...

  • 12.14.2012 7:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sergeant omega

Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.
Then it's a failure.

Since the Columbine shooting there have been 32 other school shootings in America. Over the same time period there were 14 in the rest of the world.

If guns kept people safe, America would be the safest place in the world. Apperently having over 300000000 guns in the country is failing to keep people safe from guns...
Per capita, America has one of the lowest crime rates in the modern world.

  • 12.14.2012 7:26 PM PDT


Posted by: VitalHalofreak
Ryan was the brother, his younger brother was the Killer.


Who influenced him? Any other evil wackos in the family?

  • 12.14.2012 7:27 PM PDT


Posted by: IlluminatiNWO

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
You know I always defend the second amendment. Then today it hit me, guns have changed people. You know who had access to guns in 1700's? Soldiers, and millitas. It took years to reload a rifle at that time. They were not accurate, were no where as "easy" to use a gun nowadays. The amendment loses its logic when technology has advanced so much that it almost makes it out of date.
I guess the first amendment should only apply to print material and spoken word then.
Posted by: GrandmasterNinja
He turned the gun on KIDS!? ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS?! There NEEDS to be strict gun control. We had the rights to bear arms to protect us from the wilds, now we need them to protect us from another guy with a gun. We should become like the UK and ban this -blam!- from ever happening again.
Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.

The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.


What? The 2nd amendment was mainly so the people could fight an oppressive government. At its core, it is so the people can defend themselves. So in that respect, it can be adapted to modern times and technologies, and I don't really see your point at all.

  • 12.14.2012 7:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Godshatter

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.
Then it's a failure.

Since the Columbine shooting there have been 32 other school shootings in America. Over the same time period there were 14 in the rest of the world.

If guns kept people safe, America would be the safest place in the world. Apperently having over 300000000 guns in the country is failing to keep people safe from guns...


School shootings maybe, but not violent gun crime. I think the fact that we have more school shootings has a lot more to do with the way we take care of mental health in this country, not with gun control.

  • 12.14.2012 7:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.
I have the right to defend myself from others using lethal force. Why limit what's the easiest and most effective?
Because you're afraid of it?
Because you don't actually understand it?

Now you're just steering off topic. This is irrelevant. I understand the need to protect yourself, but when you follow laws 200 odd years ago which were only justified by the current situations is crazy. Society has advanced to where the needs of early Americans to possess guns doesn't transfer into today's world.

  • 12.14.2012 7:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: IlluminatiNWO

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.
I have the right to defend myself from others using lethal force. Why limit what's the easiest and most effective?
Because you're afraid of it?
Because you don't actually understand it?

Now you're just steering off topic. This is irrelevant. I understand the need to protect yourself, but when you follow laws 200 odd years ago which were only justified by the current situations is crazy. Society has advanced to where the needs of early Americans to possess guns doesn't transfer into today's world.
Then explain the needs of early Americans so that I can understand what you were getting at. I want to understand your side, I really do.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 7:33 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 7:32 PM PDT

Signatures are for little kids.


Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: Godshatter

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Actually, the 2nd amendment was to protect you from other people with deadly weapons.
Then it's a failure.

Since the Columbine shooting there have been 32 other school shootings in America. Over the same time period there were 14 in the rest of the world.

If guns kept people safe, America would be the safest place in the world. Apperently having over 300000000 guns in the country is failing to keep people safe from guns...
Per capita, America has one of the lowest crime rates in the modern world.
And yet mass shootings happen frequently enough that most people don't get shocked anymore.

IMO the gun culture in America is disgusting. You guys are fed as much pro-military propaganda when you're young as North Koreans. Even modern video games are all about military, real guns, guns... and more guns. If kids in any place are told enough that they're the saviours of the whole world they'll believe it.

It's hard for the fish who has lived in the fishbowl it's whole life to see another perspective, but from the outside it's a rotten mess of guns and violence overseen by a media obsessed with military, guns and violence.

That's why mass shootings in America = Completely predictable and not shocking in the least. Still sad though, but mostly because after a bunch more people are shot the gunlovers cling ever harder to their weapons. Being so prideful of having weapons that a child or anyone could learn how to use in 5 seconds.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 7:42 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 7:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.
I have the right to defend myself from others using lethal force. Why limit what's the easiest and most effective?
Because you're afraid of it?
Because you don't actually understand it?

Now you're just steering off topic. This is irrelevant. I understand the need to protect yourself, but when you follow laws 200 odd years ago which were only justified by the current situations is crazy. Society has advanced to where the needs of early Americans to possess guns doesn't transfer into today's world.
Then explain the needs of early Americans so that I can understand what you were getting at. I want to understand your side, I really do.

Ok, so let's see here. Bill of Rights was passed in 1791, go back 8 years from then. The last battle of the Revolutionary War Yorktown. You'd of course want to let people have access to their own guns. A random person couldn't go purchase a gun. "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" That's the text from the ammendment. What shooting, or a person that owns a gun will ever use it protecting a free state? Almost no one.

  • 12.14.2012 7:40 PM PDT

Please tell me someone has brought up the issue of mental health to counter all this anti gun crap.

  • 12.14.2012 7:44 PM PDT

There really isn't much to be said here. I am still at a loss for words about it all. It is unthinkable and unreal. My heart is with those of Newtown... just, wow.

  • 12.14.2012 7:44 PM PDT


Posted by: IlluminatiNWO

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
The 1st amendment doesn't lose its core value. It can be changed/ edited. Video games were declared freedom of speech. The right to bear arms has no room to adapt to modern times and technology.
I have the right to defend myself from others using lethal force. Why limit what's the easiest and most effective?
Because you're afraid of it?
Because you don't actually understand it?

Now you're just steering off topic. This is irrelevant. I understand the need to protect yourself, but when you follow laws 200 odd years ago which were only justified by the current situations is crazy. Society has advanced to where the needs of early Americans to possess guns doesn't transfer into today's world.
Then explain the needs of early Americans so that I can understand what you were getting at. I want to understand your side, I really do.

Ok, so let's see here. Bill of Rights was passed in 1791, go back 8 years from then. The last battle of the Revolutionary War Yorktown. You'd of course want to let people have access to their own guns. A random person couldn't go purchase a gun. "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" That's the text from the ammendment. What shooting, or a person that owns a gun will ever use it protecting a free state? Almost no one.



The United States military is the most powerful in the world.

Therefore, there is no need of a militia, and it would be futile to fight against the government (assuming that the military personnel would kill their only people.)

Therefore, there is no reason why people should own guns.


But, like many people say, I think we should worry about mental health rather than getting rid of guns.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 7:46 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 7:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
Please tell me someone has brought up the issue of mental health to counter all this anti gun crap.

That insanity -blam!- never works. Apparently every killer is insane. You know how many cases are nullified to the concept of "insanity" little to none.

  • 12.14.2012 7:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: IlluminatiNWO
You know I always defend the second amendment. Then today it hit me, guns have changed people. You know who had access to guns in 1700's? Soldiers, and millitas. It took years to reload a rifle at that time. They were not accurate, were no where as "easy" to use a gun nowadays. The amendment loses its logic when technology has advanced so much that it almost makes it out of date.
Also they had a reasonable amount of bias in having a rule to defend yourself against a corrupt government having just come from one. Times have changed, the bill of rights should too.

  • 12.14.2012 7:46 PM PDT
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It is very dark, and you are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

So.... how long till the WBC says they will picket the children's funerals and call everyone there f@gs...?

  • 12.14.2012 7:46 PM PDT


Posted by: IlluminatiNWO

Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
Please tell me someone has brought up the issue of mental health to counter all this anti gun crap.

That insanity -blam!- never works. Apparently every killer is insane. You know how many cases are nullified to the concept of "insanity" little to none.
Your point being?

  • 12.14.2012 7:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: VitalHalofreak
Ryan was the brother, his younger brother was the Killer.


Who influenced him? Any other evil wackos in the family?

Not yet. We may not know for days, maybe months.

  • 12.14.2012 7:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: EZ 1304
So.... how long till the WBC says they will picket the children's funerals and call everyone there f@gs...?



I wondered the same exact thing.

  • 12.14.2012 7:48 PM PDT