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Subject: European Superstate plan starts now. USE here we come
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Posted by: annoyinginge
Indeed. Europe is the world's largest economy. The only question is when, not if, enough political union to see the organisation as a whole leads to Europe becoming the world's greatest superpower.

To be honest, you will probably see this change in the next few years.

Growth in Europe is projected flat or negative for pretty much everyone - Germany with no growth on the better end and Greece with -6% growth on the bad end - so while the US is only projected at 2-3% growth, that is enough to overtake the tiny advantage the EU had.

  • 12.14.2012 11:25 AM PDT

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Sorry to burst your bubble OP, but a USE is never going to happen.

  • 12.14.2012 11:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Tom T
Contrary to American belief, bigger isn't better.

  • 12.14.2012 11:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Tom T
Contrary to American belief, bigger isn't better.
It's funny Europe is one of the smallest continents and yet combined its the most powerful and important continent than any other.

Great things come in small packages.
But it has to be combined in order to be that powerful. Individually, only France, England, and Germany are important, relatively speaking.


Economics wise:

-The Netherlands
-Germany
-Luxembourg
-Sweden

Power wise:

-Germany
-France
-The Netherlands
-Turkey

  • 12.14.2012 11:30 AM PDT
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So one way or another, Germany will rule Europe.

Muhahahahahahahaha!

  • 12.14.2012 11:30 AM PDT

Allons-y!

I was moving to Europe anyway. Maybe Switzerland..

  • 12.14.2012 11:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: davadude

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Tom T
Contrary to American belief, bigger isn't better.
It's funny Europe is one of the smallest continents and yet combined its the most powerful and important continent than any other.

Great things come in small packages.
But it has to be combined in order to be that powerful. Individually, only France, England, and Germany are important, relatively speaking.


Economics wise:

-The Netherlands
-Germany
-Luxembourg
-Sweden

Power wise:

-Germany
-France
-The Netherlands
-Turkey
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?

  • 12.14.2012 11:32 AM PDT
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Its just the Germans trying to take over Europe again

  • 12.14.2012 11:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Android Spartan
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?
We (Netherlands) don't even have tanks anymore.

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Posted by: Android Spartan
It's funny Europe is one of the smallest continents and yet combined its the most powerful and important continent than any other.

Great things come in small packages.
Economic wise:
Murica > Europe
Military strength:
Murica > Europe

Enough with the patriotism already.

  • 12.14.2012 11:37 AM PDT
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Yup.


Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: Android Spartan
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?
We (Netherlands) don't even have tanks anymore.


But you guys have spines unlike the Brits, complete pansies these days. How is ol' Wilders doin'?

  • 12.14.2012 11:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: OdorousLicense3

Posted by: Android Spartan
It's funny Europe is one of the smallest continents and yet combined its the most powerful and important continent than any other.

Great things come in small packages.
Economic wise:
Murica > Europe
Military strength:
Murica > Europe

In 2011 the EU had a combined GDP of 17.57 trillion international dollars, a 20% share of the global gross domestic product (in terms of purchasing power parity)

Last I checked America had a GDP of $14 trillion.

According to this Europe has more man power and deploy more man power for cheaper than the USA, has a much larger Navy than the USA and only the USA beats the EU barely in Air power and yet spends double the money than the EU.

Meaning im not being patriotic but im quoting facts.
Enough with the patriotism already.

  • 12.14.2012 11:45 AM PDT

04s suck


Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: Android Spartan
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?
We (Netherlands) don't even have tanks anymore.


But you guys have spines unlike the Brits, complete pansies these days. How is ol' Wilders doin'?
Still alive, but he didn't do too well in the previous elections.

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Yup.


Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: Android Spartan
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?
We (Netherlands) don't even have tanks anymore.


But you guys have spines unlike the Brits, complete pansies these days. How is ol' Wilders doin'?
Still alive, but he didn't do too well in the previous elections.


I heard. Makes me sad. Do most Nederlanders think he is a loony or what he says makes some amount of sense?

  • 12.14.2012 11:46 AM PDT
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Unip8

Lol at use

You Europeans can barely stay stable for half a century

Say what you want about America but we have maintained our system for over 2 centuries (even in our civil war. ) we show no sign of collapsing anytime soon

In the last century you had two world wars, numerous revolutions and some of your economies are on the verge of collapse

I. Have nothing against Europe ( I actually really want this to work for you guys but as of now it wont

  • 12.14.2012 11:48 AM PDT

Sure I'll go with that.

  • 12.14.2012 11:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: davadude

Posted by: Sergeant omega

Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Tom T
Contrary to American belief, bigger isn't better.
It's funny Europe is one of the smallest continents and yet combined its the most powerful and important continent than any other.

Great things come in small packages.
But it has to be combined in order to be that powerful. Individually, only France, England, and Germany are important, relatively speaking.


Economics wise:

-The Netherlands
-Germany
-Luxembourg
-Sweden

Power wise:

-Germany
-France
-The Netherlands
-Turkey
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?


Combined total efficiency is much higher.

  • 12.14.2012 11:50 AM PDT

04s suck


Posted by: FloodPsychologis
I heard. Makes me sad. Do most Nederlanders think he is a loony or what he says makes some amount of sense?
The latter.

  • 12.14.2012 11:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: funbun777
In the last century you had two world wars, numerous revolutions and some of your economies are on the verge of collapse


1) You guys have had:

-Israeli intervention
-War on Iraq
-War in Afghanistan
-War of liberation

And more that I have no time to write out. +You guys participated in WW2.

2) You guys are the youngest country in the world, revolutions generally bring in a better system after decades of degradation. USA is too young to experience that.

3) Greece DOC debt ratio is 1:8. USA is 1:32, and you guys have less than 12 days until we watch your economy burn.

Please, use some reliable press, not CNN/FOX/'MERICAPRESS.

  • 12.14.2012 11:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: Android Spartan
Erm how is the Netherlands stronger than Britain?
We (Netherlands) don't even have tanks anymore.


But you guys have spines unlike the Brits, complete pansies these days. How is ol' Wilders doin'?
Still alive, but he didn't do too well in the previous elections.


I heard. Makes me sad. Do most Nederlanders think he is a loony or what he says makes some amount of sense?


Many people respect him, but the press does not. Press, sadly, gets more exposure.

  • 12.14.2012 11:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: funbun777
Lol at use

You Europeans can barely stay stable for half a century

Say what you want about America but we have maintained our system for over 2 centuries (even in our civil war. ) we show no sign of collapsing anytime soon

In the last century you had two world wars, numerous revolutions and some of your economies are on the verge of collapse

I. Have nothing against Europe ( I actually really want this to work for you guys but as of now it wont
The USA = 1 country.

Europe has many countries of course more stuff is going to happen over here, we have more conflicting idea's. But since the wars politics has taken over as the battleground and we are moving ahead with a union many saw as impossible.

The USA formed out of war, however Europe isn't surprisingly.

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Yup.


Posted by: Eijsvogel2

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
I heard. Makes me sad. Do most Nederlanders think he is a loony or what he says makes some amount of sense?
The latter.


Mfw

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Posted by: davadude
2) You guys are the youngest country in the world
Yet ironically, the most powerful one.

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Posted by: OdorousLicense3

Posted by: davadude
2) You guys are the youngest country in the world
Yet ironically, the most powerful one.
Yet Italy and Germany are actually younger than America also South Sudan is the youngest nation in the world.

So take your patriotism somewhere else.

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Posted by: Android Spartan
So take your patriotism somewhere else.
It's just a fact. No matter how hard you Brits try to deny it.

The only one being partiotic here is you.

  • 12.14.2012 12:06 PM PDT