Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Posted by: LeSieg
Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
I'm seeing every possible cop out in this thread.
Yes, we own this. We do. I do, and so to than you. And yes, I AM judging a nation of 300 million on the actions of the few. 300 million people created a society that regularly produces these nutjobs that shoot at us every so often.
This blood is on all of our hands.
Don't dodge the little bit of responsibility you bear.
You should get out there and break the patterns we have made. We are creating these loners that are gunning us, and our children down.I should expect better than you. To attribute blame to everyone is missing the point and relieving the shooter of his. He pulled the trigger. Not us. The blame rests solely on him in that regard. To say we may have facilitated conditions that breed this sort of maniac may be closer to the truth, but I find it in ill taste as well. We are a nation of civility and laws, despite what naysayers and doombringers may charge.
You judge a person on their actions, and their actions alone. Accountability cannot be held as a collective group in this regard, accountability is held at the individual level. If you want to criticize society, fine. But don't say they made this man kill our children. That's a monstrous thing to say and does the argument no good.
I will tell the truth as I see it. Nothing beyond that.
Since no one seems to understand, I will explain it more simply.
Whenever something like this happens, the person who did it is always described as a loner.
We, all of us, create these loners when we participate in a society that does everything it can to minimize human contact.
So, I ask everyone do something to stop creating loners that will eventually act out. While the society didn't drive the guy to do it, it did create the kind of person who would do it.
Do you understand now?You're assuming that I'm somehow incapable of understanding your line of thinking rather than vitriolically disagreeing.
No, you are wrong. Whoever is responsible for this travesty is the man who pulled the gun and whoever was involved with helping him do so in a direct manner.
Your line of thinking can be adapted into saying given a set of conditions, something will always happen without fail. That is not true. Similar as we may be, humans are intellectually different at thousands of levels that can't be observed or predicted with perfect accuracy. You have no idea the motivations behind the shooter. You don't know his name, his actual age, his home life, his education, his religious beliefs, his political beliefs, his preference for gender in terms of intercourse, his social behaviors, his underlying psychology. You know nothing of this man save for his actions today. How can even in a thousand years pretend you know what caused him to do the killing? That's irresponsible and beyond pessimistic to attribute his actions to your agenda.
He is a man of himself, no exceptions. What he did was his choice, factors leading up to it may have been out of his control, but his hands killed those children, not mine, not yours.