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Subject: Guns Need to be Banned- No Exception

Criminals don't obey gun bans.

Prisoners in a prison may not want to obey the rules of a prison, but as long as there is a giant wall keeping them inside, what they want is irrelevant. The trick is to make it so that criminals can't get the guns, not that we say to them "Jimmy, here's a gun, but don't kill anyone with it ok?"

That Chinese guy who stabbed some children... you know sure as -blam!- he would have liked to have a gun, but he couldn't get one. That's what gun control should be doing, putting up a wall and preventing dangerous elements of society from getting them.

  • 12.14.2012 5:33 PM PDT

心の中に弱い風が吹いています。

Let me think about that...no.

  • 12.14.2012 5:34 PM PDT


Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Apparently everyone wants to disregard the 2nd Amendment after a tragedy...It's the PEOPLE'S right to keep and bear arms.
Your constitution also used to permit people to own slaves. Does that mean the 13th amendment should have never been made?
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...

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Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Apparently everyone wants to disregard the 2nd Amendment after a tragedy...It's the PEOPLE'S right to keep and bear arms.
Your constitution also used to permit people to own slaves. Does that mean the 13th amendment should have never been made?


Forced labor, beatings, and racism =/= Gun rights

  • 12.14.2012 5:35 PM PDT


Posted by: MarlboroMan

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Apparently everyone wants to disregard the 2nd Amendment after a tragedy...It's the PEOPLE'S right to keep and bear arms.
Your constitution also used to permit people to own slaves. Does that mean the 13th amendment should have never been made?


Forced labor, beatings, and racism =/= Gun rights


Gun rights =/= Freedom of Speech too. Saying that does nothing to further an argument.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:36 PM PST]

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lol



A good number of them involve people being shot for being burglars.

Seems.....bad

  • 12.14.2012 5:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Graver18
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...
Do you really think that's still relevant today?

  • 12.14.2012 5:36 PM PDT


Posted by:SunGlassed Skunk
So over the course of 120 years, there have only been 49 incidents of guns saving lives, now tell me how many times guns have taken lives? i lost count somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.

It said a partial list in the first sentence of the paragraph right before the list.

  • 12.14.2012 5:37 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Apparently everyone wants to disregard the 2nd Amendment after a tragedy...It's the PEOPLE'S right to keep and bear arms.
Your constitution also used to permit people to own slavery. Does that mean the 13th amendment should have never been made?


Yes lets compare the enslavement of a race to a weapon.

guns are used for hunting, sport, and recreation. But the American second amendment is not meant to protect those, it is so if we were faced with Tyranny we have the tools needed to defend ourselves and our country. The second Amendment gives the citizens more power and it is why the government constantly wants to have it more and more difficult to get guns.

The fact is though guns have been prominent in American culture for hundreds of years and we have every right to get one if we want.

A majority of legal gun owners never shoot tens of people or go on a rampage, many gun owners are responsible and it is not fair that they are being punished for the actions of a small group of jackasses.

  • 12.14.2012 5:37 PM PDT


Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...
Do you really think that's still relevant today?
Yes, let's lose all our right and allow the government to potentially have absolute control over a nation, with no chance for those citizens to fight back. It happens in other countries today, so yes, it's still relevant.

  • 12.14.2012 5:37 PM PDT

Tej~


Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: derka derka
All guns need to be banned, not just automatics.


No they don't

I don't know about you guys, but I like having rights and I would prefer to not have my rights taken away because of the actions of a very small number of people.



I don't know about you pro gun people, but I like having my life and I would prefer to not have my life taken away because of the actions of people with guns.

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You know, I always hear people say "we need guns to protect us!", yet I've never seen any reports of civilians using guns to save lives (the closest i saw was that old man who scared away some robbers)


I don't own a single gun but I don't want to give up my right to be able to get a gun if I want to in the future.
And i don't want to give up my life because someone wanted to keep their "rights"

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+1 for pro-gun.

Read this before you say anything against gun ownership.

[Edited on 12.14.2012 5:38 PM PST]

  • 12.14.2012 5:38 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...
Do you really think that's still relevant today?


Of course it is, America is founded on freedom and the constitution gives us rights that defend our freedom and protect us from our government if it tries to be too powerful.

  • 12.14.2012 5:38 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: Graver18

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...
Do you really think that's still relevant today?
Yes, let's lose all our right and allow the government to potentially have absolute control over a nation, with no chance for those citizens to fight back. It happens in other countries today, so yes, it's still relevant.


It is usually countries like China and North Korea that have heavy gun control because their citizens have no way to fight back or defend their rights against a tyrannical regime.

  • 12.14.2012 5:39 PM PDT

Posted by: BoyceKRP
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drink
seriously
me bell sean ressea ellio tand i
-blam!-img party. totallt waasted . ph my god.
i called ashy;n, i dnno if that was a good ideo. i'ma sleep with her or sometning, fujuuuck

Couple of things I'd like to say as well:

No one should need to buy an automatic weapon

Handguns shouldn't even be required, but I understand having handguns for personal protection

No one should be able to by enough ammunition to slaughter the amount of people killed in shootings like the recent shooting in Aurora

No one should need to buy body armor for any reason whatsoever(as the Aurora shooter had)

The US has an astoundingly higher number of murders by guns every year than any other country

Etc.

  • 12.14.2012 5:39 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: spirit of sand
Couple of things I'd like to say as well:

No one should need to buy an automatic weapon

Handguns shouldn't even be required, but I understand having handguns for personal protection

No one should be able to by enough ammunition to slaughter the amount of people killed in shootings like the recent shooting in Aurora

No one should need to buy body armor for any reason whatsoever(as the Aurora shooter had)

The US has an astoundingly higher number of murders by guns every year than any other country

Etc.


You know a lot of people buy guns and collect them. Some people enjoy shooting and hunting.

We have every right to own a gun and you can legally get guns no problem. But a lot of crime is using non-registered guns which are against the law.

We have plenty of gun control but what you people have to realize is all the gun control in the world will not stop a psychopath from committing an act of violence if they want.

A gun is just a heavy paperweight without an operator.

  • 12.14.2012 5:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk
So over the course of 120 years, there have only been 49 incidents of guns saving lives, now tell me how many times guns have taken lives? i lost count somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.

If anything has been made obvious to me, it's that you cannot read.

This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it with reliably sourced entries.

  • 12.14.2012 5:42 PM PDT

Tej~


Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Apparently everyone wants to disregard the 2nd Amendment after a tragedy...It's the PEOPLE'S right to keep and bear arms.
Your constitution also used to permit people to own slavery. Does that mean the 13th amendment should have never been made?


Yes lets compare the enslavement of a race to a weapon.

guns are used for hunting, sport, and recreation.
How many people do you know (of) that go hunting with handguns? or commit massacres with hunting rifles? I'm fine with people who go hunting with guns or play shooting sports, the problem is with the guns that are supposed that are supposed to be used for defense(a very broad and foggy term when used by pro guns people).


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Posted by:SunGlassed Skunk
So over the course of 120 years, there have only been 49 incidents of guns saving lives, now tell me how many times guns have taken lives? i lost count somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.

It said a partial list in the first sentence of the paragraph right before the list.
And i'm sure that the hundred or so incidents that haven't been reported completely justify owning guns for "protection"

  • 12.14.2012 5:43 PM PDT

Posted by: spartain ken 15Not the point I was making. I was merely responding to the implied claim that the constitution is unchangeable (specifically the second amendment).

Posted by: Graver18
Yes, let's lose all our right and allow the government to potentially have absolute control over a nation, with no chance for those citizens to fight back. It happens in other countries today, so yes, it's still relevant.
You actually think your citizens will stand a chance against your military? Man, you should be campaigning for bomb and missile rights instead.

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I think citizens should be allowed to own nothing but a handgun. That's it. There's no reason to own a larger gun. For self defense, a handgun is sufficient.

Now, for those into hunting. You must apply for license to hunt. This would entail background checks, psyche tests, the full shebang. If approved, they're allowed to rent the gun the license permits from the local armory (which will clean and maintain the weapons) to go hunting. After the hunting session has concluded, the gun must be returned.

One could argue, saying "well the hunter could just go on a killing spree". Possibly. However, anything is possible when talking about guns. I imagine this would help reduce the incidents though. Plus, the guns would always be registered and they'd be easily caught.

Of course, illegal firearms are still a problem. However, if that ends up being the only problem than I think the country would still be a safer place than now.

  • 12.14.2012 5:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
Posted by: Graver18
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...
Do you really think that's still relevant today?
Yes, let's lose all our right and allow the government to potentially have absolute control over a nation, with no chance for those citizens to fight back. It happens in other countries today, so yes, it's still relevant.


It is usually countries like China and North Korea that have heavy gun control because their citizens have no way to fight back or defend their rights against a tyrannical regime.
you're such a -blam!- idiot

  • 12.14.2012 5:45 PM PDT

Tej~


Posted by: AgentCOP1
Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk
So over the course of 120 years, there have only been 49 incidents of guns saving lives, now tell me how many times guns have taken lives? i lost count somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.

If anything has been made obvious to me, it's that you cannot read.

This is an incomplete list, which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding it with reliably sourced entries.
Do you really think there is a large enough amount of incidents of guns saving lives, that haven't been reported, that actually justify owning guns?

  • 12.14.2012 5:45 PM PDT

>12 pages.

You guys fall for the most obvious Trolls....

  • 12.14.2012 5:46 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


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Posted by: spartain ken 15
Posted by: Graver18
Posted by: dazarobbo
Posted by: Graver18
Taking away the 2nd Amendment takes away our ability to fight back against our government if absolutely necessary, which was stated somewhere in the Constitution...
Do you really think that's still relevant today?
Yes, let's lose all our right and allow the government to potentially have absolute control over a nation, with no chance for those citizens to fight back. It happens in other countries today, so yes, it's still relevant.


It is usually countries like China and North Korea that have heavy gun control because their citizens have no way to fight back or defend their rights against a tyrannical regime.
you're such a -blam!- idiot


Guns give citizens the ability to defend themselves need be and defend their rights.

Think, do you notice how countries like China, North Korea, Britain all have strict gun control laws.

  • 12.14.2012 5:46 PM PDT

Posted by: BoyceKRP
duckingd
drink
seriously
me bell sean ressea ellio tand i
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i called ashy;n, i dnno if that was a good ideo. i'ma sleep with her or sometning, fujuuuck


Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: spirit of sand
Couple of things I'd like to say as well:

No one should need to buy an automatic weapon

Handguns shouldn't even be required, but I understand having handguns for personal protection

No one should be able to by enough ammunition to slaughter the amount of people killed in shootings like the recent shooting in Aurora

No one should need to buy body armor for any reason whatsoever(as the Aurora shooter had)

The US has an astoundingly higher number of murders by guns every year than any other country

Etc.


You know a lot of people buy guns and collect them. Some people enjoy shooting and hunting.

We have every right to own a gun and you can legally get guns no problem. But a lot of crime is using non-registered guns which are against the law.

We have plenty of gun control but what you people have to realize is all the gun control in the world will not stop a psychopath from committing an act of violence if they want.

A gun is just a heavy paperweight without an operator.
1. I don't care. I really enjoy collecting vinyl, but if for whatever reason vinyl had to be banned because it was slaughtering innocent people due to its poor regulation then I would gladly give up some freedoms for the safety of others.

2. I understand that, people like the Aurora shooter, correct me if I'm wrong, obtained their firearms legally. The kid was obviously out of his mind, and he still obtained a weapon like that. We can't have that.

3. It's proven otherwise in other countries.

4. "Guns don't kill people! People kill people, idiot!" Yes, and people with guns kill people more frequently than people without guns.

  • 12.14.2012 5:47 PM PDT