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Subject: Guns Need to be Banned- No Exception

Something smells fishy...

You don't need hand guns/pistols for hunting do you?

I doubt the mass killer used a hunting rifle.

My point is hand guns and semi automatic assault rifles are not needed by citizens. Hand guns and semi automatic assault rifles are only good for killing other Humans.


  • 12.14.2012 1:53 PM PDT

I agree that there needs to be extremely strict regulations on what kinds of guns are available and who can get a hold of them, but we have to keep this in mind: Completely banning something legal will only create a black market for it. By keeping a regulated market for guns, we can better control who gets them.

  • 12.14.2012 1:54 PM PDT

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."
-Nietzsche

I agree. Bring back public execution! That'll set the criminals straight.
Posted by: noceRetilE
I believe that instead of banning guns why don't we just blame the people who commit these crimes. If we know it was them than publicly execute them with their own gun or something.

  • 12.14.2012 1:54 PM PDT
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OP hates democracy.

  • 12.14.2012 1:54 PM PDT

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Eddie Izzard raises a good point.

  • 12.14.2012 1:55 PM PDT


Posted by: MilitaryTheorist

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: spartain ken 15

The reason we have guns is not for hunting or defense, it is if we ever need them to fight tyranny or oppression of the government.

If the USMIL ever decided to attack its own civilians, we'd stand no chance. It doesn't matter how many guns we have when they have drones, Blackhawk helicopters, tanks, etc.


Actually, it's more than possible to fight the US military. It would be a rocky start, but if a decent sized group of people with hunting rifles played it right, raided convoys, and seized military grade weapons from said raids, its more than plausible.

Furthermore, you also have to realize that there would be military units that would rebel from the government in order to help the US citizens.

Are you serious? And besides, a lot of American soldiers are in the 'fight for your country', 'defend your country' mentality. Would they disobey orders and betray the Government?

  • 12.14.2012 1:55 PM PDT

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Why didn't Frodo just stick the ring up his ass?

Because Sam would keep turning invisible.

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Have good luck getting rid of the second strongest principle the United States was founded off of.

  • 12.14.2012 1:56 PM PDT

The writers of the second amendment definitely were not intending for this to happen.

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Eddie Izzard raises a good point.



What the hell is that thing?!?

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Posted by: MilitaryTheorist

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: spartain ken 15

The reason we have guns is not for hunting or defense, it is if we ever need them to fight tyranny or oppression of the government.

If the USMIL ever decided to attack its own civilians, we'd stand no chance. It doesn't matter how many guns we have when they have drones, Blackhawk helicopters, tanks, etc.


Actually, it's more than possible to fight the US military. It would be a rocky start, but if a decent sized group of people with hunting rifles played it right, raided convoys, and seized military grade weapons from said raids, its more than plausible.

Furthermore, you also have to realize that there would be military units that would rebel from the government in order to help the US citizens.

Are you serious? And besides, a lot of American soldiers are in the 'fight for your country', 'defend your country' mentality. Would they disobey orders and betray the Government?
You think they'll kill their families?

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Posted by: NinjaLord77
The writers of the second amendment definitely were not intending for this to happen.

  • 12.14.2012 1:57 PM PDT

Besides if you ban guns all you do is create a Black Market. Which means the cartels get involved since there is serious coin to be made. Which means the people who really wanna kill someone with a gun will still get one as well as higher gang violence and firearm trafficking and the like, as well as more brazen criminals since they are the only ones owning a gun. Gun violence will likely not drop.

  • 12.14.2012 1:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamedude
Eddie Izzard raises a good point.
yes but a gun on it's own isnt going to get up, aim it's self at some one and kill them, a person is but not a gun... now its just as easy for me to get a car and run people over, or make a home made bomb as it is for me to get a gun and kill someone or group of people.

  • 12.14.2012 1:59 PM PDT
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The issue with gun control is that if the government can take away our 2nd Amendment rights, then what's to stop them from taking away the other ones? Absolutely nothing. If we grant the government that power, they'll take it and then some.


There are always going to be people who are crazy and kill others. Banning firearms won't manage to stop crimes like the shooting this morning. Firearms will still find their way into the hands of the criminals. You'd just be taking away guns from people who hunt or target shoot.

  • 12.14.2012 2:00 PM PDT
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Halo 3 is where the morons of the universe congregates.

I am thinking of an old story. "Three Billy Goats Gruff" (hint the troll dies at the end)

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If you had an electron microscope, you still couldn't find the -blam!- I don't give.


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Posted by: Cheryl Cole

Posted by: MilitaryTheorist

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: spartain ken 15

The reason we have guns is not for hunting or defense, it is if we ever need them to fight tyranny or oppression of the government.

If the USMIL ever decided to attack its own civilians, we'd stand no chance. It doesn't matter how many guns we have when they have drones, Blackhawk helicopters, tanks, etc.


Actually, it's more than possible to fight the US military. It would be a rocky start, but if a decent sized group of people with hunting rifles played it right, raided convoys, and seized military grade weapons from said raids, its more than plausible.

Furthermore, you also have to realize that there would be military units that would rebel from the government in order to help the US citizens.

Are you serious? And besides, a lot of American soldiers are in the 'fight for your country', 'defend your country' mentality. Would they disobey orders and betray the Government?
You think they'll kill their families?
I know my father, a former marine, if order to fired on any civilian would turn his back on the government in a heart beat.

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Posted by: Cheryl Cole

Posted by: MilitaryTheorist

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: spartain ken 15

The reason we have guns is not for hunting or defense, it is if we ever need them to fight tyranny or oppression of the government.

If the USMIL ever decided to attack its own civilians, we'd stand no chance. It doesn't matter how many guns we have when they have drones, Blackhawk helicopters, tanks, etc.


Actually, it's more than possible to fight the US military. It would be a rocky start, but if a decent sized group of people with hunting rifles played it right, raided convoys, and seized military grade weapons from said raids, its more than plausible.

Furthermore, you also have to realize that there would be military units that would rebel from the government in order to help the US citizens.

Are you serious?


Yes. It's been done before, it can be done again. There is rarely a government that survives a full scale rebellion by the people.

And besides, a lot of American soldiers are in the 'fight for your country', 'defend your country' mentality. Would they disobey orders and betray the Government?

No, the majority of American soldiers have the, "Fight for your people, defend your people" mentality. If you actually took notice to the oaths, soldiers are sworn in to protect the constitution and the people of the US. Their duty derives not from the government, but rather the American citizens themselves. Officers don't actually swear to obey orders in their oath, like the majority of countries require their soldiers to do.

The military revolves not around allegiance to the state, but rather loyalty to the people.

Derp.

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  • 12.14.2012 2:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: NinjaLord77
Give me a break. The school shootings today, the theater shootings and all the clerks being shot in Detroit and Flint don't prevent anything.
The hell are you going on about? I never said that massacres prevented anything.

  • 12.14.2012 2:02 PM PDT

Circle Jerkin' I got my wiener workin'

In the Oklahoma City bombing 168 people where killed and over 600 were injured by a bomb made out of fertilizer in a van.

All vans and fertilizer need to be banned.

  • 12.14.2012 2:02 PM PDT
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BTW Elites rule!

And I am probably just trolling you right now....especially if it is a controversial thread


Posted by: Jose291
I agree, Obama needs to do something about it.


If its going to be a law, I doubt anything major will happen because of the Congress.

  • 12.14.2012 2:03 PM PDT
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If people honestly think that the US military could have any conceivable chance of turning on its people than what the -blam!-. It's composed of people just like you with families and loved ones. You think if they received an order to attack their own country they'd even get two steps towards making it happen?

Lol.

Please.

  • 12.14.2012 2:04 PM PDT

If we ban guns only the bad guys are going to have guns. How are you going to defend yourself against that?

  • 12.14.2012 2:05 PM PDT
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But for states that have mass population like New York and New Jersey need to keep their gun rights. Especially the police officers and the people to protect themselves from trespassers.

  • 12.14.2012 2:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deadlock v3
If people honestly think that the US military could have any conceivable chance of turning on its people than what the -blam!-. It's composed of people just like you with families and loved ones. You think if they received an order to attack their own country they'd even get two steps towards making it happen?

Lol.

Please.


What was the military in -blam!- Germany composed of? Were they robots?

The military does what it is told.

  • 12.14.2012 2:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: WolfmanMaverick
You people have just sent my sides into orbit. A bunch of MLG try hards sucking the dick of some supposed pro half the thread hasn't even heard of. Classic.

I wonder how many people here are actually going to do anything about trying to get gun control going. I bet many of you will not even try and write any letters to you state or federal representatives. I love how you all stand on your soapboxes and proclaim your points on an online forum but can you even basically put any action behind it?

No. I am going to say on Dec. 25th you and most people will have forgotten all that has happened. You will be to absorbed into unwrapping gifts and gorging yourself on food.

  • 12.14.2012 2:07 PM PDT
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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Gabby Giffords Shooting - Psycho buys gun legally, shoots tens of people

Aurora Batman Shooting- Psycho buys gun legally, shoots tens of people

Newton School Shooting- Psycho buys gun legally, shoots tens of people

A friend on facebook posted this:
"Parents will be burying their children this Christmas. And you're still saying that guns are your human right?"

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