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Subject: 343 has the Halo 4 community in their hands

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  • 12.15.2012 10:38 AM PDT
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Infection in Halo 3 isn't zombie killing; it's ethnic cleansing. Have you ever noticed that these "zombies" are just black Spartans?

Spartan Ops is poorly designed, awfully written and not a single one the voice actors sounds like they thought the job was even worth getting out of bed for. Even Jennifer Hale whose acting I normally think is top-notch sounds like she really doesn't want to be there.

But hey, opinions.

  • 12.15.2012 10:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Dark Hunter 2100


Now we know you have no idea what your talking about.
Give an example of broken matchmaking, its thrown around a lot but no examples are given.

Also I am aware of CoD and its 6 other games before CoD 4 came out but it had a small fanbase.

Halo had a massive fanbase at the release of Halo CE and it continued a story that people invested in up to Halo 3.

Call of Duty was left stuck in all the WW2 shooters and competing with medal of honour. CoD 4 brought it into the popular shooters bringing the medium into an untouched market, current day.

But it took until MW2 (3 years later) for Halo 3 to get knocked off the top because CoD 4 and WaW didn't have a large enough fanbase on their own.

MW2 absorbed the community of both IW and Treyarch and with no Halo game in between 2007 and 2010 allowed the CoD fanbase to grow.

Actually, the CoD fanbase has always been pretty big. The only reason you don't realize this is because online multiplayer wasn't nearly as popular as it is now.

343i has no excuse for making a game this bad. Microsoft gave them a lot of money to make this game and most of the staff are former Bungie employees and they're more than familiar with Halo.

I guarantee that the new Spartan Ops missions aren't a reaction to players not liking the older ones. They most likely had them all made before the game even came out and just waited to release them.

  • 12.15.2012 10:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Did they implement basic custom games functionality yet?

  • 12.15.2012 11:03 AM PDT

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All Spartan-Ops were already made... in fact the next years episodes can be played, in their studio... so No to your statement.

  • 12.15.2012 11:16 AM PDT
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I agree OP. Although undoubtedly repetitive, it has enormous potential.

Also, lol at all the haters.

  • 12.15.2012 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Android Spartan

The only reason Halo 3 was at the top several years with CoD 4 was because Halo was an established franchise while CoD just came into the spotlight with a small fanbase.


Now we know you have no idea what your talking about.


Also, he was mostly correct. Unless you are tying to tell me COD 4 was as popular as BLOPS 2. (Hint: it wasn't)

  • 12.15.2012 11:20 AM PDT


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Posted by: Android Spartan

The only reason Halo 3 was at the top several years with CoD 4 was because Halo was an established franchise while CoD just came into the spotlight with a small fanbase.


Now we know you have no idea what your talking about.


Also, he was mostly correct. Unless you are tying to tell me COD 4 was as popular as BLOPS 2. (Hint: it wasn't)

Because it was. Halo 3 and Cod 4 back then are the equivalent of Blops 2 vs Blops 2 today.

  • 12.15.2012 11:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: Android Spartan
Also the character building has been pretty good, they make us like Spartan Thorne and then he ends up in danger.

I actually don't really care about Thorne or any of the Spartans on Majestic team. They're only in the cutscenes, not the gameplay. And I rarely notice if any of them speak during the missions because I can never really tell who the hell is talking.

And also, I hope they actually show how he survives the attack from all those Elites, and not just show him about to engage them, then cut to some other scene, then cut back to when he's killing the last one.

[Edited on 12.15.2012 11:48 AM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 11:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: Jose291
All Spartan-Ops were already made... in fact the next years episodes can be played, in their studio... so No to your statement.
I know it was already made before we got it, thats what im saying.

The way its done seemed to anticipate the fans reactions and where made accordingly. If 343 thought we would get sick of Palmer they switched her with Roland.

343 was right the community was getting sick of Palmer, so their guessing was 100% correct so far hence "we are eating out of their hand"

  • 12.15.2012 12:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Android Spartan
Also the character building has been pretty good, they make us like Spartan Thorne and then he ends up in danger.

I actually don't really care about Thorne or any of the Spartans on Majestic team. They're only in the cutscenes, not the gameplay. And I rarely notice if any of them speak during the missions because I can never really tell who the hell is talking.

And also, I hope they actually show how he survives the attack from all those Elites, and not just show him about to engage them, then cut to some other scene, then cut back to when he's killing the last one.
In the 2nd half cutscene advertising Spartan ops it shows Thorne stabbing an elite, meaning thats the next video we see.

  • 12.15.2012 12:43 PM PDT

I made my user name back when I was little. I go by RandomJPG now. Please don't reference my username.

I still haven't even touched Spartan Ops. Ever since I got my job I've either been at work, at school, or playing one of the eight games on my backlog.

  • 12.15.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Only because they game is dying.


Because being the number 2 played game on live means it's dying. You nerds are so dramatic.


Its dying in halo terms. H3 was still 500k strong 2 years after its release. You call us nerds, but your the one that KNOWS its the #2 game on Xbox Live.

By the way, most of the people on the flood are gamers with long hair, not nerds.

  • 12.15.2012 12:49 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.


Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Jose291
All Spartan-Ops were already made... in fact the next years episodes can be played, in their studio... so No to your statement.
I know it was already made before we got it, thats what im saying.

The way its done seemed to anticipate the fans reactions and where made accordingly. If 343 thought we would get sick of Palmer they switched her with Roland.

343 was right the community was getting sick of Palmer, so their guessing was 100% correct so far hence "we are eating out of their hand"
So they anticipated it would suck and knew they were doing it wrong, but did it anyway? So they're lazy. You're not helping your point.

  • 12.15.2012 12:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Jose291
All Spartan-Ops were already made... in fact the next years episodes can be played, in their studio... so No to your statement.
I know it was already made before we got it, thats what im saying.

The way its done seemed to anticipate the fans reactions and where made accordingly. If 343 thought we would get sick of Palmer they switched her with Roland.

343 was right the community was getting sick of Palmer, so their guessing was 100% correct so far hence "we are eating out of their hand"
So they anticipated it would suck and knew they were doing it wrong, but did it anyway? So they're lazy. You're not helping your point.
You just hate everything about the game if your opinion was correct we would end up with Halo 4 looking like a gameboy game from the 1980's.

  • 12.15.2012 12:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Only because they game is dying.


Because being the number 2 played game on live means it's dying. You nerds are so dramatic.


Its dying in halo terms. H3 was still 500k strong 2 years after its release. You call us nerds, but your the one that KNOWS its the #2 game on Xbox Live.

By the way, most of the people on the flood are gamers with long hair, not nerds.
Its not dying in any sense of the word just people use it like its cool to say.

Its like saying I love you has lot all its meaning because everybody says it in the wrong context.

  • 12.15.2012 12:53 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

Spartan Ops is a poorly written and badly designed game type that replaced an already poorly designed game mode called Firefight.

  • 12.15.2012 12:54 PM PDT

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My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Jose291
All Spartan-Ops were already made... in fact the next years episodes can be played, in their studio... so No to your statement.
I know it was already made before we got it, thats what im saying.

The way its done seemed to anticipate the fans reactions and where made accordingly. If 343 thought we would get sick of Palmer they switched her with Roland.

343 was right the community was getting sick of Palmer, so their guessing was 100% correct so far hence "we are eating out of their hand"


So you are saying 343 wrote the dialogue terribly on purpose just to show everyone they knew everyone would find it terrible?

  • 12.15.2012 12:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Jose291
All Spartan-Ops were already made... in fact the next years episodes can be played, in their studio... so No to your statement.
I know it was already made before we got it, thats what im saying.

The way its done seemed to anticipate the fans reactions and where made accordingly. If 343 thought we would get sick of Palmer they switched her with Roland.

343 was right the community was getting sick of Palmer, so their guessing was 100% correct so far hence "we are eating out of their hand"


So you are saying 343 wrote the dialogue terribly on purpose just to show everyone they knew everyone would find it terrible?
No.

Im not saying anything is horrible im just saying they did something, predicted audience response and changed it up to suit and to keep things fresh.

For example Egghead will be said by palmer at least once in the next 5 episodes. I like Spartan Ops including the dialogue you and others are the only ones saying its horrible.

And your just putting those words into my mouth.

  • 12.15.2012 12:58 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: Android Spartan
No.

Im not saying anything is horrible im just saying they did something, predicted audience response and changed it up to suit and to keep things fresh.

For example Egghead will be said by palmer at least once in the next 5 episodes. I like Spartan Ops including the dialogue you and others are the only ones saying its horrible.

And your just putting those words into my mouth.
Either you're trolling or you're a moron.

All of the Spartan Ops episodes for S1 were already made before the game came out. You basically said that 343 knew they made -blam!- dialogue and gameplay. They didn't care.

  • 12.15.2012 1:00 PM PDT

Get the hell off my planet!

Storytelling in SpOps top-notch?

I love Halo 4, but I can barely retain what happens in the SpOps story that isn't in the short videos. The plot development in the missions just kind of happens as the combat goes on. You glaze over it.

That's not story-telling, that's cramming.

  • 12.15.2012 1:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Android Spartan
People complained about re-used areas, Episode 3 gave us new maps to play on.
Yeah, I lol'd hard when I saw that they used Complex for a Sp Ops mission.

In other words, it's still a re-used area.

  • 12.15.2012 1:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: Android Spartan
No.

Im not saying anything is horrible im just saying they did something, predicted audience response and changed it up to suit and to keep things fresh.

For example Egghead will be said by palmer at least once in the next 5 episodes. I like Spartan Ops including the dialogue you and others are the only ones saying its horrible.

And your just putting those words into my mouth.
Either you're trolling or you're a moron.

All of the Spartan Ops episodes for S1 were already made before the game came out. You basically said that 343 knew they made -blam!- dialogue and gameplay. They didn't care.
Right so because I liked it im a troll??

I don't care about the gameplay dialogue as much as you lot, also no 343 would not have put it in the game if they thought it was bad.

What im saying is they went down a certain path which possibly made palmer hated, so they can then introduce a new character. The same with the environments not only keeping it in line with the story (Not running around a planet randomly which you lot would pick apart like now) and slowly introduced new area's depending on the story.

Im pretty sure the writing went through different iterations, its funny how you lot have no idea what goes into a game but your ready to criticize it regardless.

Your all entitled and think you could have done a better job but you clearly don't pay attention to anything.

Adam Kovik even mentioned the "Eggheads" thing to Frankie and he even said your going to have to put up with that for the next half of the season.

Chances are the next season will be better due to feedback and I bet nobody will be crying about bad writing or gameplay.....Oh hang on Spartan Op's gameplay is pretty much the same as campaign.

Blind hatred shows itself again.

  • 12.15.2012 1:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: Android Spartan
No.

Im not saying anything is horrible im just saying they did something, predicted audience response and changed it up to suit and to keep things fresh.

For example Egghead will be said by palmer at least once in the next 5 episodes. I like Spartan Ops including the dialogue you and others are the only ones saying its horrible.

And your just putting those words into my mouth.


If they are such amazing writers why didn't they simply make the script good in the first place so people wouldn't complain?

  • 12.15.2012 1:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Mythical Wolf
Only because they game is dying.


He speaks the truth!!!!!!!!!!

  • 12.15.2012 1:09 PM PDT

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