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Subject: Should Guns be banned?
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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Because people giving up their right and hobby, along with a bit of their culture and heritage, is definitely going to reduce the number of maniacs, suicides, criminals, and gang violence that comprise a great percentage of those statistics.

Posted by: Not The Joker

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Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.

Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.

  • 12.15.2012 10:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Because people giving up their right and hobby, along with a bit of their culture and heritage, is definitely going to reduce the number of maniacs, suicides, criminals, and gang violence that comprise a great percentage of those statistics.

Posted by: Not The Joker

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.

Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Americans must have a serious problem in there lives then if guns are part of there culture and heritage. They are designed to kill. Period. You can spin it around all you like but that is what they are designed for.

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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Because people giving up their right and hobby, along with a bit of their culture and heritage, is definitely going to reduce the number of maniacs, suicides, criminals, and gang violence that comprise a great percentage of those statistics.


Comparable Western democracies with stringent anti-gun laws have a tiny fraction of the annual gun deaths that the United States does. Many of them don't even breach 100 deaths.

  • 12.15.2012 10:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: Not The Joker


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
>He thinks suicide is a good argument for gun control.

  • 12.15.2012 10:55 AM PDT

Remember Elk


Posted by: chronicaddict420
Assault weapons are illegal already. Whats next I can only own a .22?
Well, Gatling guns are still legal so...

  • 12.15.2012 10:56 AM PDT

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"Ignorance is a plague."

Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.

Posted by: Not The Joker
Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.

Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.

  • 12.15.2012 10:56 AM PDT

Respect skill, Not rank.

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certain types. there's no logical reason to own a sniper, rocket launcher, minigun, flamethrower, ect. No bull-blam!- self defense excuse is going to cut it there. In my mind, pistols should be the only thing available for purchase without extremely strict law in place for getting something else.


Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


cars aren't specifically designed to kill people.

[Edited on 12.15.2012 10:59 AM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 10:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: SH4D0W0733

Posted by: chronicaddict420
Assault weapons are illegal already. Whats next I can only own a .22?
Well, Gatling guns are still legal so...
At about $1,000,000 a piece for one of 10 or so legal to own in the US.

Posted by: silversleek 117
certain types. there's no logical reason to own a sniper,
Most hunting rifles could very easily be considered a 'snipers' rifle'

[Edited on 12.15.2012 11:01 AM PST]

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Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: Not The Joker
Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.

Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.
What is it with 2nd amendment supporters and there terrible analogies?

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Gimme 20 taters!

Ban gun threads

[Edited on 12.15.2012 11:00 AM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 10:59 AM PDT

Fellow Floodian:
Posted by: Oh This Dude
I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D

The problem is the people committing the crimes, not guns. If we can have a bit more thorough tests on the mental stability of gun owners then we can lower crimes that involve guns.

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Posted by: shadowknight566
The problem is the people committing the crimes, not guns. If we can have a bit more thorough tests on the mental stability of gun owners then we can lower crimes that involve guns.
That would not off stopped what happened yesterday because he took them from his mother

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Posted by: EMPeace
well, in most states you can't legally own a rocket launcher or minigun, sniper rifles? people still like to hunt, so... yeah.


you can own certain miniguns, although for outrageously expensive prices in the millions. And only 1 of 10 in all the us. so, yeah.

rockets? that was a random example, i don't if it's legal or not, so i just chose the most extreme weapons i could think of.

flamethrowers are legal.

snipers, sure people like to snipe, but they're hell of overkill for bringing down a deer or a bear. A hunting rifle will do for them. (Be a man, go in with a knife!)

  • 12.15.2012 11:02 AM PDT

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"Ignorance is a plague."

Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.

Posted by: lightlamp2
Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: Not The Joker
Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.

Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.
What is it with 2nd amendment supporters and there terrible analogies?
What's wrong with it? Both cars and guns are useful, but when used irresponsibly can be dangerous.

  • 12.15.2012 11:04 AM PDT

Banned and proud of it.

Good job upholding the no political thread rule, Ninjas.

  • 12.15.2012 11:04 AM PDT

Fellow Floodian:
Posted by: Oh This Dude
I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D


Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: shadowknight566
The problem is the people committing the crimes, not guns. If we can have a bit more thorough tests on the mental stability of gun owners then we can lower crimes that involve guns.
That would not off stopped what happened yesterday because he took them from his mother


Shouldn't this have been the mother's fault for having a gun that is easily found? I'm sure if she kept it in a safe with a lock or something then this might have not happened with a gun, rather a knife or someone else's gun.

  • 12.15.2012 11:05 AM PDT


Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
People that want to change gun laws need to read and understand what laws are already in place and statistics for gun crime.

Firstly, assault rifles are few and far between. Assault rifles have to have select-fire capabilities. Civilian AR and AK variants lack this. A real assault rifle requires a tax stamp from the ATF (which requires months of checks and processing), a select-fire transferable receiver made and registered before May 1986, and a ton of money.

Secondly, most crimes are committed with illegally purchased handguns. Handguns require you to be 21 y/o to own one, and a license to carry them. How difficult or easy the license is to obtain varies state to state.

Rifles and shotguns that are over 29" in length, with a barrel over 16" in length can be purchased after the age of 18. Weapons with barrels or overall lengths shorter than the aforementioned require a tax stamp from the ATF, which takes months to process.

A background check is required anytime you purchase firearm from a an FFL. A bill of sale should be made for all private sales. Criminals cannot legally purchase a firearm. They get them through illegal channels, such as the black market or stealing them.

Our laws are not the problem. The amount of ignorance and bad people are the problem. Banning something has never worked in the US. All it does is create a high demand with no supply, except through illegal means that only serve to make criminals rich.
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Ban guns for killing people, pencils for misspelling words, and cars for getting into accidents.

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  • 12.15.2012 11:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


Actually, yes it does. Check annual gun deaths in nations with gun bans. They're virtually nonexistent.

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"Ignorance is a plague."

Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.

Posted by: silversleek 117
Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


cars aren't specifically designed to kill people.

Swords are. Should they be banned?

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

The US is the US. It is not France, Spain, England, Germany, or any other country in Europe. We have a different mindset and culture. This country was built using guns. What works in Europe doesn't work in the US, and this might come as a shock, but plenty of us don't want the US to be like Europe. Where we might have more gun-related deaths (suicides and gang violence using illegally-obtained weapons are included in those statistics), other countries have more knife crime.

You also notice that all these atrocities and murders that are committed in the US occur in states with the strictest gun laws, like California, New York, and Illinois. You don't see shootings happen in places like Alabama. Why? Because almost everyone is armed. They can shoot back.

50,000,000 people shouldn't give up something they love and that they aren't hurting anyone with just because a few maniacs commit an atrocity.
Posted by: Not The Joker

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Because people giving up their right and hobby, along with a bit of their culture and heritage, is definitely going to reduce the number of maniacs, suicides, criminals, and gang violence that comprise a great percentage of those statistics.


Comparable Western democracies with stringent anti-gun laws have a tiny fraction of the annual gun deaths that the United States does. Many of them don't even breach 100 deaths.

  • 12.15.2012 11:06 AM PDT

Fellow Floodian:
Posted by: Oh This Dude
I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D


Posted by: Not The Joker

Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


Actually, yes it does. Check annual gun deaths in nations with gun bans. They're virtually nonexistent.


Most of those nations with gun bans aren't bordered by a country run by cartels.

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Posted by: lightlamp2
Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: Not The Joker
Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.[/quote]
Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.
What is it with 2nd amendment supporters and there terrible analogies?
What's wrong with it? Both cars and guns are useful, but when used irresponsibly can be dangerous.
The difference is. Is that cars do not cause children to be massacred in a school. There are ways you can prevent this. It doesn't happen in Europe any more for a reason. Guns will never go away in the US because of your entire countries fetish over them. The best thing you can do is ban the assault rifles like the gunman used yesterday. And get guards in every school. Because as long as guns are available. You will get more maniacs committing massacres like this

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Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: silversleek 117
Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


cars aren't specifically designed to kill people.

Swords are. Should they be banned?


i'm not against full on banning guns, i'm just saying get a better argument, because that one was stupid.

  • 12.15.2012 11:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: shadowknight566

Posted by: Not The Joker

Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


Actually, yes it does. Check annual gun deaths in nations with gun bans. They're virtually nonexistent.


Most of those nations with gun bans aren't bordered by a country run by cartels.


Never thought of that..

  • 12.15.2012 11:13 AM PDT