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Subject: Should Guns be banned?


Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: Not The Joker
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Posted by: Not The Joker
Most kids in this community have grown up playing FPS games and have a weird gun fetish, so you're not going to get a very unbiased poll.

Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people.


So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.

Cars are designed to be used for transportation. Guns are designed to kill-that's the difference. You can't conceal a car.

  • 12.15.2012 11:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: Not The Joker
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Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people. [/quote]

So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.
What is it with 2nd amendment supporters and there terrible analogies?
What's wrong with it? Both cars and guns are useful, but when used irresponsibly can be dangerous.
The difference is. Is that cars do not cause children to be massacred in a school. There are ways you can prevent this. It doesn't happen in Europe any more for a reason. Guns will never go away in the US because of your entire countries fetish over them. The best thing you can do is ban the assault rifles like the gunman used yesterday. And get guards in every school. Because as long as guns are available. You will get more maniacs committing massacres like this


1. The gunman used a pistol, not an assault rifle

2. Cars can be used to massacre kids, all it takes is an insane person driving it through a school wall
3. Banning isn't such a good way of getting rid of guns if we live right next to a mass of cartels with hundreds of guns. Also, banning will just result in citizens without guns and criminals with them. You think criminals would actually abide to the law when they can actually just hop the border and grab one to do their crimes?

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

There is no such thing as a sniper rifle. They're functionally identical to hunting rifles. A "sniper rifle" is really just a precision rifle with a high-powered scope. It's not any more deadly than its hunting counterparts. Most "sniper rifles" are based on hunting rifles. The M40 is based in the Remington 700 action. FN's precision rifles are based on the Winchester Model 70 action.

If you're talking about things like a .50 caliber, that is designed for anti-material, like taking out the engine block of cars at vehicle checkpoints. A Barrett M82A1 cost upwards of $6,000 and $5 a round for a civilian to own one. And when has one ever been used to commit an atrocity?

All guns are more accurate and precise than the person using it, and a weapon is only as dangerous as the person using it.
Posted by: silversleek 117
certain types. there's no logical reason to own a sniper, rocket launcher, minigun, flamethrower, ect. No bull-blam!- self defense excuse is going to cut it there. In my mind, pistols should be the only thing available for purchase without extremely strict law in place for getting something else.


Posted by: destroys u
Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.


cars aren't specifically designed to kill people.

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To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

  • 12.15.2012 11:15 AM PDT


Posted by: EMPeace
YES! GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT! THAT'S SUCH A GREAT IDEA! THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE GUNS!

Guns are banned in many other countries, and the criminals there don't have guns. (or very few)

  • 12.15.2012 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: EMPeace
YES! GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT! THAT'S SUCH A GREAT IDEA! THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE GUNS!

Guns are banned in many other countries, and the criminals there don't have guns. (or very few)


Wrong

  • 12.15.2012 11:16 AM PDT


Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

Ok then, what do you propose we do? (besides nothing, since it's quite obvious that isn't going to work)

  • 12.15.2012 11:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.


This has been and will continuously be the biggest and largest point here, along with most argued. Thank you, good sir.

  • 12.15.2012 11:17 AM PDT


Posted by: HWJohn

Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: EMPeace
YES! GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT! THAT'S SUCH A GREAT IDEA! THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE GUNS!

Guns are banned in many other countries, and the criminals there don't have guns. (or very few)


Wrong

source? Look up other countries' gun crime rates.

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Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: lightlamp2
Posted by: destroys u
Posted by: Not The Joker
Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Or we appreciate brilliant feats of engineering.

Fun fact: There are over 260,000,000 guns legally owned by over 50,000,000 gun owners in the United States that are not using their guns to kill people. [/quote]

So then they should be happy to sacrifice their guns to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths in their country.[/quote]Just like all the car owners should be happy to give up their cars to prevent over 30,000 annual deaths.

The world doesn't work like that.
What is it with 2nd amendment supporters and there terrible analogies?
What's wrong with it? Both cars and guns are useful, but when used irresponsibly can be dangerous.
The difference is. Is that cars do not cause children to be massacred in a school. There are ways you can prevent this. It doesn't happen in Europe any more for a reason. Guns will never go away in the US because of your entire countries fetish over them. The best thing you can do is ban the assault rifles like the gunman used yesterday. And get guards in every school. Because as long as guns are available. You will get more maniacs committing massacres like this


1. The gunman used a pistol, not an assault rifle

2. Cars can be used to massacre kids, all it takes is an insane person driving it through a school wall
3. Banning isn't such a good way of getting rid of guns if we live right next to a mass of cartels with hundreds of guns. Also, banning will just result in citizens without guns and criminals with them. You think criminals would actually abide to the law when they can actually just hop the border and grab one to do their crimes?


1.He used both handguns and an assault rifle
2.I don't think anyone has done that before and it would be no where near as effective as an assault rifle
3.The average criminal doesn't shoot up a school. Its the average person who is screwed up in the head that does it and acquires them legally

  • 12.15.2012 11:18 AM PDT

Relevant

  • 12.15.2012 11:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: Oh This Dude
I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D


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Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

Ok then, what do you propose we do? (besides nothing, since it's quite obvious that isn't going to work)


Maybe tighten control a bit with more thorough mental stability tests for people owning a gun and a required safe to store them in so kids can't get them easily to commit crimes like yesterday's.

  • 12.15.2012 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

Ok then, what do you propose we do? (besides nothing, since it's quite obvious that isn't going to work)


We are really doing all we can. Banning them won't do a thing other than making citizens defenseless. Better education and earlier responses is probably the only thing we can add.

  • 12.15.2012 11:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: HWJohn

Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: EMPeace
YES! GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT! THAT'S SUCH A GREAT IDEA! THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE GUNS!

Guns are banned in many other countries, and the criminals there don't have guns. (or very few)


Wrong

source? Look up other countries' gun crime rates.


The hidden crime rate is truly a beast to learn, isn't it?

  • 12.15.2012 11:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: shadowknight566
1. The gunman used a pistol, not an assault rifle


The gunman had 4 guns, 2 pistols and an assault rifle, and another gun in his car.


Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
There is no such thing as a sniper rifle. They're functionally identical to hunting rifles. A "sniper rifle" is really just a precision rifle with a high-powered scope. It's not any more deadly than its hunting counterparts. Most "sniper rifles" are based on hunting rifles. The M40 is based in the Remington 700 action. FN's precision rifles are based on the Winchester Model 70 action.


huh, you learn something new everyday i guess.

  • 12.15.2012 11:19 AM PDT

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I'm tired of seeing threads about gun control.

  • 12.15.2012 11:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: HWJohn

Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

Ok then, what do you propose we do? (besides nothing, since it's quite obvious that isn't going to work)


We are really doing all we can. Banning them won't do a thing other than making citizens defenseless. Better education and earlier responses is probably the only thing we can add.
Not good enough.

  • 12.15.2012 11:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: HWJohn

Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

Ok then, what do you propose we do? (besides nothing, since it's quite obvious that isn't going to work)


We are really doing all we can. Banning them won't do a thing other than making citizens defenseless. Better education and earlier responses is probably the only thing we can add.
Not good enough.


So shall we make it worse by banning them? No. Stop being ignorant.

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You are all missing the point anyway. We shouldn't be talking about Gun Control, we should be talking about how we test, diagnose, and treat mental illness. Almost every single time something like this happens, it's always a few or one individual(s) that are depressed, sociopaths and angry at the world.


Posted by: annoyinginge
Anybody else excited for the new Call of Duty map?


This is one of those times, where you don't make jokes. 18 kids under the age of 10 died.

Reported.

[Edited on 12.15.2012 11:23 AM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 11:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2
The difference is. Is that cars do not cause children to be massacred in a school. There are ways you can prevent this. It doesn't happen in Europe any more for a reason. Guns will never go away in the US because of your entire countries fetish over them. The best thing you can do is ban the assault rifles like the gunman used yesterday. And get guards in every school. Because as long as guns are available. You will get more maniacs committing massacres like this

What assault rifle was used? The one that he left in the trunk of his car? He killed the children with two handguns.

Mass shootings never happen in Europe eh?

Please don't assume that I'm American just because I support gun ownership.

  • 12.15.2012 11:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: HWJohn

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Posted by: EMPeace
YES! GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT! THAT'S SUCH A GREAT IDEA! THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE GUNS!

Guns are banned in many other countries, and the criminals there don't have guns. (or very few)

Wrong

Right

But in some cases countries with really high criminal activity people still have guns, why? Because there's criminal activity there.

There are cases when it's harder to come by a gun the lesser criminals who dont have ties have a harder time coming by guns. Much less effort would be requiered with no gun control, there's no denying there.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Exactly. If anything, I believe the first step in ending these atrocities is better mental healthcare. If people had somewhere to turn to improve their mental well-being, they wouldn't go on these shooting sprees. The gunman could just as easily have used a car to do the damage. It's the operator, not the tool. Banning guns leaves normal, everyday people defenseless, while making criminals rich.

Posted by: HWJohn

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Posted by: HWJohn
To those who are (very idiotically, I might add) anti-gun:

Even if guns were banned, it wouldn't of made a difference. You can still get your hands on them, just like how drug dealers can get their hands on drugs, like how pedos can get their hands on CP, how cyber criminals can get their hands on malware, etc.

If guns were banned, who would have them then? Certainly not law-abiding citizens, that's for sure. But what about criminals? Do they care about the law?

The US is not the nation with the most deaths because of guns, El Salvador is. And we have more people.

Stop and think, put aside what you grew up with and think logically. Stop being soccer moms.

Ok then, what do you propose we do? (besides nothing, since it's quite obvious that isn't going to work)


We are really doing all we can. Banning them won't do a thing other than making citizens defenseless. Better education and earlier responses is probably the only thing we can add.

  • 12.15.2012 11:23 AM PDT


Posted by: annoyinginge
Anybody else excited for the new Call of Duty map?
Everyone report this user.

[Edited on 12.15.2012 11:26 AM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 11:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Delta SWE

Posted by: HWJohn

Posted by: Teh Teddy Bear

Posted by: EMPeace
YES! GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT! THAT'S SUCH A GREAT IDEA! THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE GUNS!

Guns are banned in many other countries, and the criminals there don't have guns. (or very few)

Wrong

Right

But in some cases countries with really high criminal activity people still have guns, why? Because there's criminal activity there.

There are cases when it's harder to come by a gun the lesser criminals who dont have ties have a harder time coming by guns. Much less effort would be requiered with no gun control, there's no denying there.


Hidden crime rate. You can never truly not know how much something has happened, so depending on crime rates as evidence is not a strong argument.

  • 12.15.2012 11:24 AM PDT