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Subject: Who do you dislike more?

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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.
Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.


Word for word, bro.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Yet he didn't use an assault rifle. And the gun itself is not responsible for the crime or the amount of deaths incurred. The maniac operating the gun is responsible. Better mental healthcare and education is the key to preventing these tragedies.

Magazine-fed and adjustable stock =/= assault rifle
Fully-automatic or burst-fire chambered for rifle calibers = assault rifle

Why don't you people get this? Most crimes, this one included, are with handguns. Most gun crimes in the US, nearly all of it, is done using a handgun. Rifles and shotguns are rarely used.
Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.
Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.
Im pretty sure knowing the in's and out's of how a gun works is not relevant to stopping shootings. All guns kill people. And some are better at shooting multiple people than other guns. mainly assault rifles

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Posted by: DAS B00T x2
Honestly, I could most likely do more damage in a theater shooting with my 20 gauge that I use to shoot turkeys with than Holmes did with his little arsenal.
People that are afraid of "assault rifles" make me laugh.

But its BIG and SCARY!

  • 12.15.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zombine
They both piss me off, and I live in the South so I interact with a lot of pro-gun people regularly. Though I do go to a university, so I also run into a lot of equally uneducated anti-gun people as well.

As for me I lean a bit toward pro-gun but I do not think every Tom, Dick and Jane should just be able to get a gun. They need to be vetted thoroughly and systems need to be a little closer to the UK's form of gun control but I don't think going all the way is necessary.

Exactly this.

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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Yet he didn't use an assault rifle. And the gun itself is not responsible for the crime or the amount of deaths incurred. The maniac operating the gun is responsible. Better mental healthcare and education is the key to preventing these tragedies.

Magazine-fed and adjustable stock =/= assault rifle
Fully-automatic or burst-fire chambered for rifle calibers = assault rifle

Why don't you people get this? Most crimes, this one included, are with handguns. Most gun crimes in the US, nearly all of it, is done using a handgun. Rifles and shotguns are rarely used.
Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.
Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.
Im pretty sure knowing the in's and out's of how a gun works is not relevant to stopping shootings. All guns kill people. And some are better at shooting multiple people than other guns. mainly assault rifles
What kind of gun is a bushmaster? the Newtown medical examiner just said in a press conference that the majority of children murdered were done so by the gunman using the Bushmaster

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Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.
Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.


Exactly, this is really apparent the the backlash against scary looking guns "assault weapons" that are functionally identical to their less intimidating counterparts.

Example:

Totally Fine.

Scary Assault Weapon

Internally these guns are pretty much the same... yet only one provokes a certain mindset.
I'm against the weapons that are fully automatic

Yeah, I'm pro gun but I don't think that anyone needs a fully automatic gun. There's just no logical reason why you would need one. Semi-automatics and bolt-action are the only kinds of guns that should be allowed. Well, even at that, there are some guns like sniper rifles that don't really need to be in the public. However they are still fun to shoot, so people should still be able to get them with a license. And not everyone is a marine-trained sniper so it's not like everyone would be very effective with them.

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Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: DAS B00T x2
Honestly, I could most likely do more damage in a theater shooting with my 20 gauge that I use to shoot turkeys with than Holmes did with his little arsenal.
People that are afraid of "assault rifles" make me laugh.

But its BIG and SCARY!


What type of weapon would inspire more fear to the untrained eye: an AK-103 or a 10-gauge shotgun?

  • 12.15.2012 12:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.
Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.


Exactly, this is really apparent the the backlash against scary looking guns "assault weapons" that are functionally identical to their less intimidating counterparts.

Example:

Totally Fine.

Scary Assault Weapon

Internally these guns are pretty much the same... yet only one provokes a certain mindset.
I'm against the weapons that are fully automatic


Which are virtually never used illegally in the US (because they are so expensive and hard to aquire), and to my knowledge have never been used in a massacre/shooting.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Neither of those are fully-automatic. They're both semi-automatic (1 pull of the trigger fires 1 round). Even AR-15s that use the same ammunition and magazines as their military counterparts, the M4 and M16, are not fully automatic. Their ergonomics are the same because the design is inherently adjustable and comfortable to most people's build. However, AR-15s lack the sear and disconnector of the M4 and M16, which is necessary for full-auto fire. AR-15s fire one shot with each pull of the trigger.
Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.
Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.


Exactly, this is really apparent the the backlash against scary looking guns "assault weapons" that are functionally identical to their less intimidating counterparts.

Example:

Totally Fine.

Scary Assault Weapon

Internally these guns are pretty much the same... yet only one provokes a certain mindset.
I'm against the weapons that are fully automatic

  • 12.15.2012 12:51 PM PDT

What a waste....


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Posted by: Connor CMC
The root of the problem is america's mentality.


Care to elaborate?

Rabid anti-communism/patriotism in the past gave america an every-man-for-themselves attitude. Add slavery and forced emigration of blacks and you get a significant portion of the population who hate the system. No one wants to work as a team and thus produces criminals. Then as the icing on top, everyone likes guns.

Pretty volatile cake mix yall got there.
Extreme capitalism in this country creates a sort of dog-eat-dog world mindset where people don't think helping each other is a good idea.

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Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.[/quote]Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.


Exactly, this is really apparent the the backlash against scary looking guns "assault weapons" that are functionally identical to their less intimidating counterparts.

Example:

Totally Fine.

Scary Assault Weapon

Internally these guns are pretty much the same... yet only one provokes a certain mindset.
I'm against the weapons that are fully automatic

Yeah, I'm pro gun but I don't think that anyone needs a fully automatic gun. There's just no logical reason why you would need one. Semi-automatics and bolt-action are the only kinds of guns that should be allowed. Well, even at that, there are some guns like sniper rifles that don't really need to be in the public. However they are still fun to shoot, so people should still be able to get them with a license. And not everyone is a marine-trained sniper so it's not like everyone would be very effective with them.
Yeah its all about what is more effective. And i don't think a gunman would use a sniper rifle inside a building to go on a shooting spree. But then again you never know

  • 12.15.2012 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.[/quote]Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?[/quote]
It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion. [/quote]

Exactly, this is really apparent the the backlash against scary looking guns "assault weapons" that are functionally identical to their less intimidating counterparts.

Example:

Totally Fine.

Scary Assault Weapon

Internally these guns are pretty much the same... yet only one provokes a certain mindset.[/quote]I'm against the weapons that are fully automatic[/quote]
Yeah, I'm pro gun but I don't think that anyone needs a fully automatic gun. There's just no logical reason why you would need one. Semi-automatics and bolt-action are the only kinds of guns that should be allowed. Well, even at that, there are some guns like sniper rifles that don't really need to be in the public. However they are still fun to shoot, so people should still be able to get them with a license. And not everyone is a marine-trained sniper so it's not like everyone would be very effective with them.
Yeah its all about what is more effective. And i don't think a gunman would use a sniper rifle inside a building to go on a shooting spree. But then again you never know


About that...

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Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3

Posted by: chronicaddict420

Posted by: DAS B00T x2
Honestly, I could most likely do more damage in a theater shooting with my 20 gauge that I use to shoot turkeys with than Holmes did with his little arsenal.
People that are afraid of "assault rifles" make me laugh.

But its BIG and SCARY!


What type of weapon would inspire more fear to the untrained eye: an AK-103 or a 10-gauge shotgun?
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle, which is not an assault rifle. It's a magazine-fed, semi-automatic rifle, functionally the same as the Ruger 10-22s sold at Wal-Mart. It is NOT an assault rifle, because it lacks select-fire capabilities.
Posted by: lightlamp2

[quot]Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Yet he didn't use an assault rifle. And the gun itself is not responsible for the crime or the amount of deaths incurred. The maniac operating the gun is responsible. Better mental healthcare and education is the key to preventing these tragedies.

Magazine-fed and adjustable stock =/= assault rifle
Fully-automatic or burst-fire chambered for rifle calibers = assault rifle

Why don't you people get this? Most crimes, this one included, are with handguns. Most gun crimes in the US, nearly all of it, is done using a handgun. Rifles and shotguns are rarely used.
Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.[/quote]Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?

It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.
Im pretty sure knowing the in's and out's of how a gun works is not relevant to stopping shootings. All guns kill people. And some are better at shooting multiple people than other guns. mainly assault rifles
What kind of gun is a bushmaster? the Newtown medical examiner just said in a press conference that the majority of children murdered were done so by the gunman using the Bushmaster

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Posted by: chronicaddict420
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.


....

Kel-Tec 12 gauge or the AK-103? Which looks worse?

  • 12.15.2012 12:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3

Posted by: chronicaddict420
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.


....

Kel-Tec 12 gauge or the AK-103? Which looks worse?


Both are scary!

But tbh the AK is more dangerous in a massacre type setting.

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Posted by: Makko Mace
Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.[/quote]Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?[/quote]
It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion. [/quote]

Exactly, this is really apparent the the backlash against scary looking guns "assault weapons" that are functionally identical to their less intimidating counterparts.

Example:

Totally Fine.

Scary Assault Weapon

Internally these guns are pretty much the same... yet only one provokes a certain mindset.[/quote]I'm against the weapons that are fully automatic[/quote]
Yeah, I'm pro gun but I don't think that anyone needs a fully automatic gun. There's just no logical reason why you would need one. Semi-automatics and bolt-action are the only kinds of guns that should be allowed. Well, even at that, there are some guns like sniper rifles that don't really need to be in the public. However they are still fun to shoot, so people should still be able to get them with a license. And not everyone is a marine-trained sniper so it's not like everyone would be very effective with them.
Yeah its all about what is more effective. And i don't think a gunman would use a sniper rifle inside a building to go on a shooting spree. But then again you never know


About that...
Damn

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

No...

14 shells of 12 gauge buckshot would do much more damage to a crowd than 30 rounds of 7.62x39mm.

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3

Posted by: chronicaddict420
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.


....

Kel-Tec 12 gauge or the AK-103? Which looks worse?


Both are scary!

But tbh the AK is more dangerous in a massacre type setting.

  • 12.15.2012 1:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: DAS B00T x2
You know what's even worse?

When the boy you like has a girlfriend.
#gheyworldproblems

Posted by Makko Mace
Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
Posted by: chronicaddict420
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.


....

Kel-Tec 12 gauge or the AK-103? Which looks worse?


Both are scary!

But tbh the AK is more dangerous in a massacre type setting.
I would have to disagree, especially considering that people tend to open fire on large crowds in small places.

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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle, which is not an assault rifle. It's a magazine-fed, semi-automatic rifle, functionally the same as the Ruger 10-22s sold at Wal-Mart. It is NOT an assault rifle, because it lacks select-fire capabilities.
Posted by: lightlamp2

[quot]Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Yet he didn't use an assault rifle. And the gun itself is not responsible for the crime or the amount of deaths incurred. The maniac operating the gun is responsible. Better mental healthcare and education is the key to preventing these tragedies.

Magazine-fed and adjustable stock =/= assault rifle
Fully-automatic or burst-fire chambered for rifle calibers = assault rifle

Why don't you people get this? Most crimes, this one included, are with handguns. Most gun crimes in the US, nearly all of it, is done using a handgun. Rifles and shotguns are rarely used.
Posted by: lightlamp2


Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.[/quote]Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?[/quote]
It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion.
Im pretty sure knowing the in's and out's of how a gun works is not relevant to stopping shootings. All guns kill people. And some are better at shooting multiple people than other guns. mainly assault rifles
What kind of gun is a bushmaster? the Newtown medical examiner just said in a press conference that the majority of children murdered were done so by the gunman using the Bushmaster
They sell guns at Walmart? Well you learn something new everyday

  • 12.15.2012 1:03 PM PDT

RIP - The Rev: February 9, 1981 – December 28, 2009
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RIP - Ronny James Dio: July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010


Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3

Posted by: chronicaddict420
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.


....

Kel-Tec 12 gauge or the AK-103? Which looks worse?


Both are scary!

But tbh the AK is more dangerous in a massacre type setting.


Exactly. Let's see how I can put this: to obtain an assault rifle like so legally requires a lot of money, and most people have either a shotgun or handgun. The AK is far more dangerous than the shotgun, as it has range and fire-power over the Kel-Tec, but the Kel-Tec would be used to rip people to shreds faster and easier.

Back OT: I hate people who are untrained with weapons, yet are against them. As it stands, shotguns are rarely ever used in shootings, so far as my research goes.

[Edited on 12.15.2012 1:05 PM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 1:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
No...

14 shells of 12 gauge buckshot would do much more damage to a crowd than 30 rounds of 7.62x39mm.

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3

Posted by: chronicaddict420
You should use a modern 10 gauge not some ancient relic as an example.


....

Kel-Tec 12 gauge or the AK-103? Which looks worse?


Both are scary!

But tbh the AK is more dangerous in a massacre type setting.



Did not know the ammo capacity was so high... but if that is not mag fed shotgun the AK would be more efficient (:/) in skilled hands) assuming extra magazines.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Yes, you can buy rifles, shotguns, and ammunition at Wal-Mart. See now why guns are so ingrained in our culture and why it's impossible to get rid if them?

Posted by: lightlamp2

[quot]Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle, which is not an assault rifle. It's a magazine-fed, semi-automatic rifle, functionally the same as the Ruger 10-22s sold at Wal-Mart. It is NOT an assault rifle, because it lacks select-fire capabilities.
[quot]Posted by: lightlamp2

[quot]Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
Yet he didn't use an assault rifle. And the gun itself is not responsible for the crime or the amount of deaths incurred. The maniac operating the gun is responsible. Better mental healthcare and education is the key to preventing these tragedies.

Magazine-fed and adjustable stock =/= assault rifle
Fully-automatic or burst-fire chambered for rifle calibers = assault rifle

Why don't you people get this? Most crimes, this one included, are with handguns. Most gun crimes in the US, nearly all of it, is done using a handgun. Rifles and shotguns are rarely used.
Posted by: lightlamp2


Posted by: lightlamp2

Posted by: Swiftkillswitch3
I hate it when people complain about weapons and yet have never touched one themselves.[/quote]Why does it matter if you have touched one or not?[/quote]
It's difficult to understand how something works if you've never examined it firsthand. Cars, firearms, air conditioning units, etc. If you're ignorant to the factual specifications and operations of a certain mechanism, you really have no grounds for discussion. [/quote]Im pretty sure knowing the in's and out's of how a gun works is not relevant to stopping shootings. All guns kill people. And some are better at shooting multiple people than other guns. mainly assault rifles [/quote]
What kind of gun is a bushmaster? the Newtown medical examiner just said in a press conference that the majority of children murdered were done so by the gunman using the Bushmaster
They sell guns at Walmart? Well you learn something new everyday

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All the victims were shot more than once using a semi automatic

He must of used a lot of ammo

  • 12.15.2012 1:06 PM PDT

The human element always mucks things up.

Anti gun people hate freedom and want to see America fail just like rest of the world.

  • 12.15.2012 1:06 PM PDT

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