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I'd like to hear how this thread is racist against anyone. It is an undeniable fact that young white males are the overwhelming perpetrators of rampage shootings. It's a fact.

When we can stop being such idiots about this we can finally start talking about why and do something about it.

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Posted by: dtyler27106
100% of the shooters have been human. Think of that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/17/fox-shoots-hunter_n_ 809921.html

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Let's take that down to %99, haha.

  • 12.15.2012 2:53 PM PDT

Coincedence.

  • 12.15.2012 2:54 PM PDT

yea and the crime rate is alot higher for black people, and no newsstations ever report black on white crimes because they dont want to sound racist.

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
I'd like to hear how this thread is racist against anyone. It is an undeniable fact that young white males are the overwhelming perpetrators of rampage shootings. It's a fact.

When we can stop being such idiots about this we can finally start talking about why and do something about it.


It's not. The complaining comes from whenever anyone rightly blames black people for killing approximately 10,000 people every year, people go "that's racist" or "it's not their fault, historic blabla racism is evil bla bla bla". The fact that the overwhelming majority of shooters have been young white males is not controversial, and neither should the fact that blacks commit a gigantic amount of crime relative (-blam!-, murder, theft) to their population.

  • 12.15.2012 2:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
I'd like to hear how this thread is racist against anyone. It is an undeniable fact that young white males are the overwhelming perpetrators of rampage shootings. It's a fact.

When we can stop being such idiots about this we can finally start talking about why and do something about it.


Cat something (what was his name?) Didn't actually say that it was racist, just heavily implied it. After we responded in the much the same fashion as you, hes accusing us of fallacious attacks :/

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Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: Mass Cat

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Posted by: Mass Cat
If the OP had written black males instead of whites, then everyone would have called him a racist and the thread would have been banned.

Why is it okay to insult whites and muslims in this forum?
What's insulting about the observation that the majority of the perpetrators of mass shootings in the US have been white males?


Yea, what's actually insulting about it? If it's okay to point the flaws on whites and middle easterns, then it's also okay to do that with blacks right?

The world wants equality right?And that's what i'm asking for why these people act like hypocrites and unfair.

You like the OP have asked irrelevant questions(strawman) like, which is exactly what i expected.
Sorry, would you mind explaining how I misrepresented your position and thus committed the logical fallacy of the straw man? You said "Why is it okay to insult whites...", strongly implying that the nature of this thread insults whites.


I wasn't only reffering to this thread but the entire world as well.

I never claimed this thread is racist, but i'm actually wondering a question which no one bothered to ask.

But why can people who insult whites and middle easterns get away with it, while someone who insults blacks is banned?If i apply what i said to the world around us then you see the shame.

And again i have no problem with OP's statement as he's right, but just am curious why people's mind automatically assumes something like that. Mine was as well i'll admit that.

But i'm just starting to hate when people act like that. Very race is full of idiots and good people, and then we get back at my original question.

But so be it. I already know what none of your dare to answer that question because you know it to be true, just look at the banned threads on this site and their subjects.



  • 12.15.2012 2:55 PM PDT

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Ban young white males.

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  • 12.15.2012 2:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mass Cat


Nice apology...

Why don't you make your own thread to discuss your topic? (Honest suggestion) Instead of coming in here with poor wording and lashing out when queried.

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Posted by: FloodPsychologis
It's not. The complaining comes from whenever anyone rightly blames black people for killing approximately 10,000 people every year, people go "that's racist" or "it's not their fault
There is a subtle but massive difference between stating the fact that 10,000 homicides were committed by people who are black and blaming black people for 10,000 homicides.

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Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
It's not. The complaining comes from whenever anyone rightly blames black people for killing approximately 10,000 people every year, people go "that's racist" or "it's not their fault
There is a subtle but massive difference between stating the fact that 10,000 homicides were committed by people who are black and blaming black people for 10,000 homicides.



Can you explain to me how a group that is 13% of the population commits the majority of murders, majority of rapes and majority of thefts?

[Edited on 12.15.2012 2:59 PM PST]

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Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
It's not. The complaining comes from whenever anyone rightly blames black people for killing approximately 10,000 people every year, people go "that's racist" or "it's not their fault
There is a subtle but massive difference between stating the fact that 10,000 homicides were committed by people who are black and blaming black people for 10,000 homicides.



Can you explain to me how a group that is 13% of the population commits the majority of murders, majority of rapes and majority of thefts?
I believe you misunderstand my position. If you can provide a valid source for those statements, I will not refute them.

  • 12.15.2012 3:00 PM PDT

The black kids are smart enough to wait outside of school and pop the other guy as he leaves. Also minorities hate cops and fear them, the same cant be said for all whites.

I know im generalizing but i don`t intend to write a anthropology paper on the flood.

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Posted by: Next stalin
The black kids are smart enough to wait outside of school and pop the other guy as he leaves. Also minorities hate cops and fear them, the same cant be said for all whites.

I know im generalizing but i don`t intend to write a anthropology paper on the flood.


Well you certainly don't have to worry about writing an essay....

But tbh that was a racially charged generalization that seems to have been made by someone who read no more than the title of this thread.

  • 12.15.2012 3:04 PM PDT


Posted by: dtyler27106
100% of the shooters have been human. Think of that.


Pretty soon we will have gorillas shooting up a massacre.

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Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
It's not. The complaining comes from whenever anyone rightly blames black people for killing approximately 10,000 people every year, people go "that's racist" or "it's not their fault
There is a subtle but massive difference between stating the fact that 10,000 homicides were committed by people who are black and blaming black people for 10,000 homicides.



Can you explain to me how a group that is 13% of the population commits the majority of murders, majority of rapes and majority of thefts?
I believe you misunderstand my position. If you can provide a valid source for those statements, I will not refute them.


Ok sure. Here. Check Table 40 for -blam!-, and robbery (sorry not theft, robbery is worse anyway). For multiple offenders Table 46. It's even worse.

Homicide numbers.


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  • 12.15.2012 3:06 PM PDT

Even though it's more common for Caucasian males to do this, anyone is capable of it. So it's best not to single anyone out.

  • 12.15.2012 3:08 PM PDT

+1 for you good sir.

Op is right. It's a statistical fact too. Not only that, but I think it's also statistically proven that white, middle class, males, have a higher chance of developing sociopathic tendencies.

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Posted by: NinjaLord77
Even though it's more common for Caucasian males to do this, anyone is capable of it. So it's best not to single anyone out.


I disagree, this is not chance, there is a reason that this group is so much more prone to this act.

If the causes could be determined then it is entirely possible they could be treated as well.

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Posted by: Next stalin
The black kids are smart enough to wait outside of school and pop the other guy as he leaves. Also minorities hate cops and fear them, the same cant be said for all whites.

I know im generalizing but i don`t intend to write a anthropology paper on the flood.


Well you certainly don't have to worry about writing an essay....

But tbh that was a racially charged generalization that seems to have been made by someone who read no more than the title of this thread.
It`s hardly racist, i just call it as i see it. Most shooters are social outcasts. That happens less in black and hispanic communities because they are more tight knit.

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Posted by: Next stalin

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: Next stalin
The black kids are smart enough to wait outside of school and pop the other guy as he leaves. Also minorities hate cops and fear them, the same cant be said for all whites.

I know im generalizing but i don`t intend to write a anthropology paper on the flood.


Well you certainly don't have to worry about writing an essay....

But tbh that was a racially charged generalization that seems to have been made by someone who read no more than the title of this thread.
It`s hardly racist, i just call it as i see it. Most shooters are social outcasts. That happens less in black and hispanic communities because they are more tight knit.


Can you cite anything to reinforce your point? (not saying you can't!)

If not then it is just a racial generalization.

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Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: FloodPsychologis

Posted by: Snake Plissken

Posted by: FloodPsychologis
It's not. The complaining comes from whenever anyone rightly blames black people for killing approximately 10,000 people every year, people go "that's racist" or "it's not their fault
There is a subtle but massive difference between stating the fact that 10,000 homicides were committed by people who are black and blaming black people for 10,000 homicides.



Can you explain to me how a group that is 13% of the population commits the majority of murders, majority of rapes and majority of thefts?
I believe you misunderstand my position. If you can provide a valid source for those statements, I will not refute them.


Ok sure. Here. Check Table 40 for -blam!-, and robbery (sorry not theft, robbery is worse anyway). For multiple offenders Table 46. It's even worse.

Homicide numbers.
Neat-o. Thanks for backing up your statement. So, remind me again, what exactly does that prove? You stated a fact and presented the evidence. In the same way, OP stated a fact and the evidence is apparent - Just you made a statement about blacks, and him about whites.

  • 12.15.2012 3:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: NinjaLord77
Even though it's more common for Caucasian males to do this, anyone is capable of it. So it's best not to single anyone out.


I disagree, this is not chance, there is a reason that this group is so much more prone to this act.

If the causes could be determined then it is entirely possible they could be treated as well.


I don't think the guy did cause he was white. He planned it. You can't just know if someone is crazy, they need to show signs of it.

  • 12.15.2012 3:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: Next stalin

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: Next stalin
The black kids are smart enough to wait outside of school and pop the other guy as he leaves. Also minorities hate cops and fear them, the same cant be said for all whites.

I know im generalizing but i don`t intend to write a anthropology paper on the flood.


Well you certainly don't have to worry about writing an essay....

But tbh that was a racially charged generalization that seems to have been made by someone who read no more than the title of this thread.
It`s hardly racist, i just call it as i see it. Most shooters are social outcasts. That happens less in black and hispanic communities because they are more tight knit.


Can you cite anything to reinforce your point? (not saying you can't!)

If not then it is just a racial generalization.
Its 100% racial generalization, but its a generalization i have observed. I don`t believe that it is true for all Minority communities but most of them.

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Posted by: NinjaLord77

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: NinjaLord77
Even though it's more common for Caucasian males to do this, anyone is capable of it. So it's best not to single anyone out.


I disagree, this is not chance, there is a reason that this group is so much more prone to this act.

If the causes could be determined then it is entirely possible they could be treated as well.


I don't think the guy did cause he was white. He planned it. You can't just know if someone is crazy, they need to show signs of it.


What you say is true... bu you digress.

I'll just take it as that "oh yeah I get it" type of subject changer.

  • 12.15.2012 3:21 PM PDT