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Posted by: MeltingBrainbob
I'm so glad you finally agree with me. Killing animals with guns requires a different standard. Hunting guns, I believe, are bolt-shot, and require a little bit to load. I don't remember hunters wielding glocks and hand guns shooting deer or wolves. If there ever is a gator or bear that attacks you in either Texas or Alaska, a hunting rifle will suffice. That is ok.

Try bringing a hunting rifle to school. See how many people that takes out. 1? 2? Maybe 3? I don't recall a fully auto-matic hunting rifle, but then again, times are different.

Ever heard of a shotgun? I am pretty damn sure that is going to kill more than 2-3 people. If anything hunting weapons are more deadly than standard weapons due to how it takes a lot more to kill an animal than it does to kill a human.

  • 12.15.2012 7:01 PM PDT

Because everyone that owns a gun has the intention to kill someone.

  • 12.15.2012 7:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: DE4THINC4RN4TE
The difference (Besides Freedom, 2nd Amendment, 'Murica! ) is that minor gangs have TONS of guns. Mexican Cartels can easily bring guns over the borders. Hell, if I went 20 minutes west to the city I live near, I could probably get an assault rifle for a hundred bucks. Seriously, Illegal guns are everywhere and cheap. Banning them won't do jack. People who want a gun are going to get them. I'd prefer to have a gun to protect myself. What we need to be focusing on right now is fixing the mental health system so we can identify and act faster on these crazy people.
Here's a thought:

Your military is finished in Afghanistan and Iraq now, right? But you have this big issue of border enforcement in the south. You take your military, and then you stop the cartels.

That, or get a better police force to do it instead.

Well, the Military can't normally operate in the Country without Marshall Law being declared (Outside of Military Instillations and such.) And declaring Marshall Law would make A LOT of people VERY unhappy. Unless you meant invade Mexico, which is another thing that will have next to Zero support. I'm guessing your not American, (Based on your post) but getting "Better Border Patrol Guards" isn't that simple. It's a long border that goes through the Desert. Plus, they dig tunnels underneath the fences, and just go around the sides via the Oceans/Gulf. You can see the pickle we're in.

This is why we should focus on bettering the Mental Health System. We can identify crazy individuals and act before they strike.

[Edited on 12.15.2012 7:03 PM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 7:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: MeltingBrainbob
I'm so glad you finally agree with me. Killing animals with guns requires a different standard. Hunting guns, I believe, are bolt-shot, and require a little bit to load. I don't remember hunters wielding glocks and hand guns shooting deer or wolves. If there ever is a gator or bear that attacks you in either Texas or Alaska, a hunting rifle will suffice. That is ok.

Try bringing a hunting rifle to school. See how many people that takes out. 1? 2? Maybe 3? I don't recall a fully auto-matic hunting rifle, but then again, times are different.

Ever heard of a shotgun? I am pretty damn sure that is going to kill more than 2-3 people. If anything hunting weapons are more deadly than standard weapons due to how it takes a lot more to kill an animal than it does to kill a human.
Also the shooter used a semiauto rifle and handguns.

  • 12.15.2012 7:03 PM PDT


Posted by: MeltingBrainbob

Posted by: Fat Man 3000
You can't end gun possession in America. To do so would be to go to individual houses and take their guns off them.

How would you do that? Two ways?

A) Look at registered Gun owners, go to their address and take it away from them. What about those who obtained theirs illegally?

B) Conduct a very thorough search of every single house in America. A blatant invasion of privacy.

And it would be incredibly expensive and time consuming.


Just stop gun purchases now. Within 70 years, it'll be all gone, unless gramps passes it down.


Posted by: Officer Nasty16
OP, you do realize the shooter was aware that the school was a "gun-free zone," right? If there weren't gun restrictions already, maybe schools could have halfway decent security guards who could actually defend themselves in a scenario like that.


I'm sorry? Your school has armed police patrolling the corridors? Buddy, not everybody has as luxurious schools as you.

My school district spend $4 million on ipads and cut funding in other areas to pay for $300,000 for turtle bridges. If the gov. wasn't full of idiots people keep electing we could probably afford it.

  • 12.15.2012 7:03 PM PDT


Posted by: HundredJono
Because everyone that owns a gun has the intention to kill someone.

Clearly did you not see the OP's scientific fact based stats that he got from a reliable source which states 1 in 10 people will kill anyone that gets in their way?

  • 12.15.2012 7:03 PM PDT


Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: MeltingBrainbob
I'm so glad you finally agree with me. Killing animals with guns requires a different standard. Hunting guns, I believe, are bolt-shot, and require a little bit to load. I don't remember hunters wielding glocks and hand guns shooting deer or wolves. If there ever is a gator or bear that attacks you in either Texas or Alaska, a hunting rifle will suffice. That is ok.

Try bringing a hunting rifle to school. See how many people that takes out. 1? 2? Maybe 3? I don't recall a fully auto-matic hunting rifle, but then again, times are different.

Ever heard of a shotgun? I am pretty damn sure that is going to kill more than 2-3 people. If anything hunting weapons are more deadly than standard weapons due to how it takes a lot more to kill an animal than it does to kill a human.


SO get rid of the shot gun too! Leave only the basic hunting rifles capable of taking out a deer or wolf. A hunting rifle can shoot one very fast bullet, and then they have to reload the gun. Unless 20 school children are lined up in a row, I doubt the casualties will be as numerous as a handheld semi pistol

  • 12.15.2012 7:03 PM PDT


Posted by: GohanRules 12
My school district spend $4 million on ipads and cut funding in other areas to pay for $300,000 for turtle bridges. If the gov. wasn't full of idiots people keep electing we could probably afford it.


WOW! You've got ipads? That's great! We have Windows XP laptops! I'm sure if we sold those, we'd be able to pay a security guard for a couple months! :D

  • 12.15.2012 7:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: BuzzKill9009
China and America are totally different

one we have something called the second amendment

This ^ and OP I am trying hard not to get banned again so get back under your bridge you communist Troll you.

  • 12.15.2012 7:04 PM PDT


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Posted by: HundredJono
Because everyone that owns a gun has the intention to kill someone.

Clearly did you not see the OP's scientific fact based stats that he got from a reliable source which states 1 in 10 people will kill anyone that gets in their way?


Scientific facts? Lol, those are just articles.

  • 12.15.2012 7:05 PM PDT

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OP, he predicted your reaction over half a century ago.

  • 12.15.2012 7:05 PM PDT


Posted by: HundredJono

Posted by: What Is This1

Posted by: HundredJono
Because everyone that owns a gun has the intention to kill someone.

Clearly did you not see the OP's scientific fact based stats that he got from a reliable source which states 1 in 10 people will kill anyone that gets in their way?


Scientific facts? Lol, those are just articles.


He was being sarcastic.

  • 12.15.2012 7:06 PM PDT


Posted by: MeltingBrainbob
SO get rid of the shot gun too! Leave only the basic hunting rifles capable of taking out a deer or wolf. A hunting rifle can shoot one very fast bullet, and then they have to reload the gun. Unless 20 school children are lined up in a row, I doubt the casualties will be as numerous as a handheld semi pistol

Now if only deer and wolves were the only animals in the US. Oh wait they aren't how about you come up with a better solution?

  • 12.15.2012 7:06 PM PDT


Posted by: HundredJono
Scientific facts? Lol, those are just articles.

Lol I forgot to put sarcasm at the end, but I was hoping it was kind of obvious I was being sarcastic.

  • 12.15.2012 7:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rayzor1995
IN Maryland, you know. There aren't sasquatches and gorrilas terrorizing me around these parts. Yeah... you're an idiot.


So tell me how in other states where they claim they are being attacked by animals, it isn't idiotic, but when I list a slightly more ridiculous claim, I'm an idiot. Replace those words with bears and .... gators, and you'll get my point. Not everybody gets attacked, and if they do, a hunting rifle would suffice. Not an AK-47 or glock.
When did I ever say people were getting attacked? I'm talking about problem animals such as deer, badgers, gophers, and coyotes. Without guns to keep the animal populations down then they move into your territory and wreak things, then either larger predators move in or diseases take them out (neither situation is good.)

But you obviously would have no idea how much of a problem it really is in your "civilized" environment.

  • 12.15.2012 7:08 PM PDT

Does the OP not realize that China is a Communist dictatorship almost entirely because no one can have a gun? There's no way for a revolution to happen. We have the guns mainly for self-defense and hunting.

OP, do you then think that video games are the cause of murders?

  • 12.15.2012 7:08 PM PDT

Do we need restrictions on guns? Yes we need to have a lot of checks and regulations regarding guns.
Should we ban all guns? No for the most part if you ban all guns you would be taking them out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

  • 12.15.2012 7:08 PM PDT


Posted by: Rayzor1995
When did I ever say people were getting attacked? I'm talking about problem animals such as deer, badgers, gophers, and coyotes. Without guns to keep the animal populations down then they move into your territory and wreak things, then either larger predators move in or diseases take them out (neither situation is good.)

But you obviously would have no idea how much of a problem it really is in your "civilized" environment.


Use the hunting rifle, as before mentioned. I heard those were effective against animals, but not so much against humans.

  • 12.15.2012 7:09 PM PDT

Derp


Posted by: HundredJono
Because everyone that owns a gun has the intention to kill someone.
"I have a gun to shoot rocks" no one ever

  • 12.15.2012 7:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: MeltingBrainbob

Posted by: Rayzor1995
When did I ever say people were getting attacked? I'm talking about problem animals such as deer, badgers, gophers, and coyotes. Without guns to keep the animal populations down then they move into your territory and wreak things, then either larger predators move in or diseases take them out (neither situation is good.)

But you obviously would have no idea how much of a problem it really is in your "civilized" environment.


Use the hunting rifle, as before mentioned. I heard those were effective against animals, but not so much against humans.
You are either a bad troll or a -blam!-ing idiot...

[Edited on 12.15.2012 7:11 PM PST]

  • 12.15.2012 7:11 PM PDT


Posted by: bergXX09
Does the OP not realize that China is a Communist dictatorship almost entirely because no one can have a gun? There's no way for a revolution to happen. We have the guns mainly for self-defense and hunting.

OP, do you then think that video games are the cause of murders?


Yes sir. The only reason China is communist is because the Chinese can't have guns.

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It works. Less casualties. They just have to work on their corrupt government officials, over-powered police, the poverty, and the pollution, and it'll be perfect! A Utopian society!

  • 12.15.2012 7:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Rayzor1995
You are either a bad troll or a -blam!-ing idiot...

Honestly I have been going with the latter because most trolls don't write out as much as the OP has.

  • 12.15.2012 7:12 PM PDT


Posted by: Rayzor1995
You are either a bad troll or a -blam!-ing idiot...


Wah wah. Blam some more. Back then, hunting rifles were highly effective against animals. They still work now, don't they?

You are either a bad troll or a blooming idiot.

  • 12.15.2012 7:13 PM PDT


Posted by: MeltingBrainbob
Yes sir. The only reason China is communist is because the Chinese can't have guns.

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It works. Less casualties. They just have to work on their corrupt government officials, over-powered police, the poverty, and the pollution, and it'll be perfect! A Utopian society!

Do you have proof that they have less casualties as a result of not having guns?

  • 12.15.2012 7:13 PM PDT


Posted by: MeltingBrainbob

Posted by: GohanRules 12
My school district spend $4 million on ipads and cut funding in other areas to pay for $300,000 for turtle bridges. If the gov. wasn't full of idiots people keep electing we could probably afford it.


WOW! You've got ipads? That's great! We have Windows XP laptops! I'm sure if we sold those, we'd be able to pay a security guard for a couple months! :D

I like your made up statistics too. Considering less than 0.000034% of our population is killed each year in gun homicides.

  • 12.15.2012 7:14 PM PDT