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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.
Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Posted by: DarkBen64
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Spartan>Space Marine if the Spartans have element of suprise.
Marine>>>>Spartan in straight up fight.Not even surprise will give a spartan a lasting edge over a space marine
According to the books, even humans can slaughter space marines if they have surprise. They are consistently decimated by stealth enemies of any race. And big guns, obviously, but the Spartans have those too.
How many times has that happened in a book where the main characters are SMs? It usually happens in IG books because having a SM kill all the protagonists in a few moments would not be very fun. Indeed, Spartans have been caught flat-footed by regular humans, such as the beginning of GoO.
As it is, SMs are hard to catch by surprise. A marine was able to hear the heartbeat of an unborn child on the other side of the room, for starters. They have excellent eyesight, and when they want to, they can move deceptively quietly and fast.