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Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine from WH40K?

Hey guys I just created my own scfi game where they have super soldiers called "Ants". They can beat anything including giant space ships by just coughing. Seriously arguing over two different stories seems pretty stupid when one can be made stronger than the other simply by saying so.

  • 12.16.2012 11:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xd00999
Indeed, Spartans have been caught flat-footed by regular humans, such as the beginning of GoO.


Remember Forge in Halo Wars? Yeah, apparently he fought a Spartan on the Spirit of Fire. And won. Or at least held his own.

[Edited on 12.16.2012 11:52 AM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 11:52 AM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine?


Posted by: PowerMan32094
Because they can.

/get mad

inb4 angry virgins turn this into an 8 page argument.


3 pages and counting!!!

  • 12.16.2012 11:52 AM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine from WH40K?

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Sorry. I forgot Halo has a near infinite amount of invicible, god like beings that can pull pidgeons out of their asses if they wanted to.

Oh wait...

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Posted by: HipiO7
Posted by: Khodan
Posted by: HipiO7
Because the 40k Universe is -blam!- retarded with all its near invincible crap.


Compared to other Universe, everyone in WH40K are Gods. But in WH40K itself, almost everything is weak as -blam!- and billions die every day.


As I said, retarded.


You are the retard. Its like comparing the Haloverse with the Bronze Age and saying that halo is over powered.

  • 12.16.2012 12:12 PM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine?

I am the Core. And I am not pleased.


Posted by: divine thunder14
Why not zoidberg?

  • 12.16.2012 12:18 PM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine from WH40K?

Boltshot = mini shotgun

Spartans can't beat Space Marines because WH40K is overpowered as crap compared to every other universe.

[Edited on 12.16.2012 12:20 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 12:19 PM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine?

Silly people arguing over Space Marines and Spartans. When we all know that Necrons are best.

  • 12.16.2012 12:20 PM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine from WH40K?
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Posted by: Blaze of Storm
Spartans can't beat Space Marines because WH40K is overpowered as crap compared to every other universe.


Wh40k is balanced within its own 'verse, and there are plenty of other universes that could defeat it.

Halo is just underpowered.

  • 12.16.2012 1:07 PM PDT

I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.

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Posted by: bergXX09
I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.


And Spartans aren't?

  • 12.16.2012 1:14 PM PDT

I'm a Halo fanboy, but I doubt anyone legitimately believes a Spartan-II beats a Space Marine.

  • 12.16.2012 1:22 PM PDT


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Posted by: bergXX09
I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.


And Spartans aren't?

Nope. It's like Batman versus a police officer in this case. One is basically invincible no matter what, the other one has many faults and flaws and weaknesses.

  • 12.16.2012 1:31 PM PDT


Posted by: bergXX09

Posted by: And Im Here Too
Posted by: bergXX09
I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.


And Spartans aren't?

Nope. It's like Batman versus a police officer in this case. One is basically invincible no matter what, the other one has many faults and flaws and weaknesses.


Space Marines have flaw, faults, and weaknesses. Im sorry that you have not read any material about them.

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Posted by: bergXX09
I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.


And Spartans aren't?

Nope. It's like Batman versus a police officer in this case. One is basically invincible no matter what, the other one has many faults and flaws and weaknesses.


And what flaws do individual Spartans have? The Spartan-II project was gloriously flawed and pretty much a terrible idea in general, but the resulting Spartans were just as Sue-ish as Space Marines. Just, y'know, wimpier.

[Edited on 12.16.2012 1:34 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 1:34 PM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine?


Posted by: deltahalo UK
The fact I know absolutely nothing about what is being mentioned in this thread fills me with so much joy.
But that fact that you're here on the Flood says something doesn't it?

  • 12.16.2012 1:35 PM PDT

Because they know literally nothing about Warhammer 40,000 probably.

  • 12.16.2012 1:39 PM PDT
Subject: Why do people think a Spartan II can beat a Space Marine from WH40K?


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Spartan>Space Marine if the Spartans have element of suprise.

Marine>>>>Spartan in straight up fight.
Not even surprise will give a spartan a lasting edge over a space marine


According to the books, even humans can slaughter space marines if they have surprise. They are consistently decimated by stealth enemies of any race. And big guns, obviously, but the Spartans have those too.


If you are talking constantly, by the one passage in the first Horus Heresy book, sure.

But then again, those were most likely genetically modified humans with plasma guns equalling those of the Astartes, and with invisibility cloaks that even the power of the Autosenses couldn't get through.

Spartans would have utterly demolished by such an attack, whereas maybe three Space Marines died.

Remember this also, Space Marine armour has evolved over the years. Current M.7 and M.8 armour has been shown to survive plasma pistol shots.


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I admit that Spartan IIs would get their asses kicked by the Space Marines in a straight-up fight, but with the element of surprise and their undeniable advantage in mobility I'd say a Spartan has a 40% chance of victory against a Space Marine.



Space Marines aren't as slow or immobile as people think they are. Only those in Terminator Armor are.


Not even that any more, Termies are shown to be just as fast as any marine.

In the novelised version of Dawn of War, we see a Terminator dodging bullets and doing back flips.

  • 12.16.2012 1:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: PhyscoRaiderS97
Spartans are augmented and have tough as -blam!- armour.

Space Marines just have armour
Troll harder.

  • 12.16.2012 1:44 PM PDT

"Try to get a better understanding of things before you make your judgement."
-Khan, Metro 2033

One of the weakest weapons in the 40K verse is the Lasgun, a rifle that can literally take a human's arm off in one shot and that barely even scratches Power Armour.

What's a Spartan's battle rifle going to do against one?

Even if the Spartan had the element of surprise how would he go about killing the marine? Snapping his neck? Blowing him up with a grenade?

Really, the only weapons that could ensure a quick victory against a SM would be the Splaser, Rocket launcher and the fuel rod. Then there's the fact the imperium has versions of these that are ten times better, like the Las Cannon, AutoCannon and Plasma Cannons.

Oh, and 40K isn't really that overpowered compared to some other universes out there.

  • 12.16.2012 2:10 PM PDT
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Space Marines would stomp on Spartans. Space Marines are pretty much everything the UNSC wishes Spartans to be.

  • 12.16.2012 2:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Onlinemph
Not even that any more, Termies are shown to be just as fast as any marine.

In the novelised version of Dawn of War, we see a Terminator dodging bullets and doing back flips.
I was going to say, aren't Termies actually much more agile than standard marines?

Doesn't make much sense to put a close combat squad in armour that really limits movement.

  • 12.16.2012 2:12 PM PDT

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I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

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Posted by: FloodForum Ruler
Because Warhammer 40k is overrated, stupid, and not nearly as powerful as fanboys think it is.

Edit: Also not as popular as fanboys think.

  • 12.16.2012 2:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: johnny106
Hey guys I just created my own scfi game where they have super soldiers called "Ants". They can beat anything including giant space ships by just coughing. Seriously arguing over two different stories seems pretty stupid when one can be made stronger than the other simply by saying so.


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  • 12.16.2012 2:23 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

This.
Posted by: bergXX09
I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.

  • 12.16.2012 2:24 PM PDT


Posted by: BestSpartan117
This.
Posted by: bergXX09
I don't think they realize that Space Marine is a Mary Sue.


I know this is in vain, but I implore you to go read the Ultramarines omnibus.

Captain Uriel is one of the most interesting characters you will see in fiction. And Graham Mcneill tends to try to keep the power of Space Marines down a little bit.

  • 12.16.2012 2:28 PM PDT