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Subject: Why wasn't there a Hornet/Falcon in Halo 4?

Just wondering, why wasn't it?

There was no reason for them not to be included. They were game changers. Added depth and combat to multiplayer. Fun to drive too! Not to mention they also made Machinimas more realistic (the Machinima itself).

I miss them. I hope they come back in Halo 5. We need some good ol' UNSC vehicles in multiplayer - I'm talking about the iconic ones as well. They should introduce some new vehicles - ground and air - into Halo 5, e.g. Hawk, Cyclops, Rhino and Gremlin etc.

What about you Flood?

  • 12.16.2012 1:17 PM PDT

They could have at least given us the Elephant....

  • 12.16.2012 1:17 PM PDT
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Because 343 sucks.

Because they spent all of their time making the Mantis.

Because 343 sucks.

Because they spent all of their time making it like CoD.

Because 343 sucks.

Because they though it was unecessary/not fun/nobody used it.

That will be the whole thread.

  • 12.16.2012 1:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

Dem memories...
*sniff*

  • 12.16.2012 1:19 PM PDT

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I never was a big fan of Falcon or Hornet, but they were fun to play with every once in a while. Hopefully they'll add something like that to Halo 5.

  • 12.16.2012 1:19 PM PDT

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I suspect laziness.

They were totally fine copying the 3D models of the Scorpion, Banshee, Ghost, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets into H4 so there would be no problem copying at least the Falcon across.

Just as in the same sense they could have easily have given us Mk V, ODST, CQB and Noble Six' helmets if they had wanted to.

I've been playing Reach a lot recently and its been great fun, especially great to see the Falcon flying around and the original design Warthog.

  • 12.16.2012 1:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
This xabout2300.

The falcon was fracking stupid due the inability of carrying a flag/bomb, but a hornet would be fine. I'd love a pelican, but that's perhaps a bit too much wishing.

Also, you can't make one flag. That's incomprehensibly moronic.

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT
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Why would there be?

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT


Posted by: flamedude
I suspect laziness.

They were totally fine copying the 3D models of the Scorpion, Banshee, Ghost, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets into H4 so there would be no problem copying at least the Falcon across.

Just as in the same sense they could have easily have given us Mk V, ODST, CQB and Noble Six' helmets if they had wanted to.

I've been playing Reach a lot recently and its been great fun, especially great to see the Falcon flying around and the original design Warthog.
hhahhaaha. They're different, dumbass.

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT

Because balance. It's absence affects everyone equally therefore it is balanced.

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT

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Because they didn't make it.

Halo 4 = 343i's Halo CE.

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT

I think the removal was really dumb, personally. I miss the Hornet, Falcon, Chopper, and Elephant quite a bit.

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT

Connor Morris


Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
Or forgable phantom/ pelican which people have been asking for since H3

  • 12.16.2012 1:20 PM PDT
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I aim to please.

Plasma pistols are secondary weapons now.

How long do you think they would last?

  • 12.16.2012 1:22 PM PDT


Posted by: deathjudge2006

Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
Or forgable phantom/ pelican which people have been asking for since H3

I hate it so much when people say this. It doesn't make any sense to put this in for a few reasons, namely that not a single map is large enough and that that sort of vehicle would be ridiculously overpowered. It'd be a waste of time for them to add because everyone would just complain about how stupid it was after they added it.

  • 12.16.2012 1:22 PM PDT

Oh my Gosh, talk about buzz kill. And what do you mean not a single map is large enough for the Pelican? All the maps in H4 are medium sized AT LEAST. I doubt 343i doesn't have plans on making more HUGE maps.

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I hate it so much when people say this. It doesn't make any sense to put this in for a few reasons, namely that not a single map is large enough and that that sort of vehicle would be ridiculously overpowered. It'd be a waste of time for them to add because everyone would just complain about how stupid it was after they added it.

  • 12.16.2012 1:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: SPLEEEEENS
Posted by: deathjudge2006
Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
Or forgable phantom/ pelican which people have been asking for since H3

I hate it so much when people say this. It doesn't make any sense to put this in for a few reasons, namely that not a single map is large enough and that that sort of vehicle would be ridiculously overpowered. It'd be a waste of time for them to add because everyone would just complain about how stupid it was after they added it.
Unlike Reach, Halo 4 actually has a fully functional Pelican (for a very short campaign segment). It wouldn't be that hard to add into Forge. It likely wouldn't show up in any playlist, but it'd be fantastic for customs and machinima.

And Forge World in Reach could have easily handled Pelicans and Phantoms. Of course, 343 decided it would be better to have 3 separate, tiny Forge worlds (OK, 2 tiny maps and 1 moderate-sized map).

  • 12.16.2012 1:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
I suspect laziness.

They were totally fine copying the 3D models of the Scorpion, Banshee, Ghost, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets into H4 so there would be no problem copying at least the Falcon across.

Just as in the same sense they could have easily have given us Mk V, ODST, CQB and Noble Six' helmets if they had wanted to.

I've been playing Reach a lot recently and its been great fun, especially great to see the Falcon flying around and the original design Warthog.
hhahhaaha. They're different, dumbass.


What?

  • 12.16.2012 1:26 PM PDT


Posted by: SPLEEEEENS

Posted by: deathjudge2006

Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
Or forgable phantom/ pelican which people have been asking for since H3

I hate it so much when people say this. It doesn't make any sense to put this in for a few reasons, namely that not a single map is large enough and that that sort of vehicle would be ridiculously overpowered. It'd be a waste of time for them to add because everyone would just complain about how stupid it was after they added it.

True dat

But it could potentially give you hours and hours of fun.

It could also be an invincible carrier transport, nothing wrong with that I suppose. No instant Killtaculars, transport players across the map (not the whole friggin' team of course), it'd would have to make journeys back and forth. If anything, make it slow and only able to carry say 3 players.

Only simply thoughts, I didn't think about it too much.

[Edited on 12.16.2012 1:28 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 1:28 PM PDT

People really miss the Elephant? In all my experiences people would drive them next to each other and the game would end in 2 minutes flat.

  • 12.16.2012 1:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: DarkBen64
Posted by: flamedude
I suspect laziness.

They were totally fine copying the 3D models of the Scorpion, Banshee, Ghost, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets into H4 so there would be no problem copying at least the Falcon across.

Just as in the same sense they could have easily have given us Mk V, ODST, CQB and Noble Six' helmets if they had wanted to.

I've been playing Reach a lot recently and its been great fun, especially great to see the Falcon flying around and the original design Warthog.
hhahhaaha. They're different, dumbass.


What?
I think it's talking about the 3D models.

Nevertheless, it's bullfrack what you say. At least it's irrelevant. The Scorpion, Banshee and Ghost aren't different in Halo 2 and 3 either.

  • 12.16.2012 1:28 PM PDT

Now let's get down to business, I don't got no time to play around, what is this?

Because 343 ARE RETARDS OH MY GOD NERF THE DMR

  • 12.16.2012 1:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

But 343i were lazy and didn't give us much vehicle variety...

  • 12.16.2012 1:30 PM PDT
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I miss the Falcon.

:(

  • 12.16.2012 1:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
Posted by: DarkBen64
Posted by: flamedude
I suspect laziness.

They were totally fine copying the 3D models of the Scorpion, Banshee, Ghost, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets into H4 so there would be no problem copying at least the Falcon across.

Just as in the same sense they could have easily have given us Mk V, ODST, CQB and Noble Six' helmets if they had wanted to.

I've been playing Reach a lot recently and its been great fun, especially great to see the Falcon flying around and the original design Warthog.
hhahhaaha. They're different, dumbass.


What?
I think it's talking about the 3D models.

Nevertheless, it's bullfrack what you say. At least it's irrelevant. The Scorpion, Banshee and Ghost aren't different in Halo 2 and 3 either.


I thought I was clear.... I'm saying that half of the work is done for 343. They were ok with copying a lot of 3D assets from Reach into H4, so they could/should have done the same with the Falcon.

As for it being irrelevant..... All vehicles have different 3D models in ALL Halo games except Halo 4. Halo 4 is the only major Halo game where weapons and vehicles have been copied from the previous game. The Scorpion, Banshee and Ghost are completely different in Halo 1, Halo 2 and 3.

  • 12.16.2012 1:34 PM PDT

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