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Subject: Why wasn't there a Hornet/Falcon in Halo 4?


Posted by: TomoK12

Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

But 343i were lazy and didn't give us much vehicle variety...


True dat

I now realise how -blam!-e of a map Ragnarok is, vehicle wise that is. They added that god damn Mantis, which isn't even a Halo originiated vehicle.

  • 12.16.2012 1:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: TomoK12
Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

But 343i were lazy and didn't give us much vehicle variety...
They should make the Mammoth drivable and put it on its own desert map.

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Posted by: PhyscoRaiderS97

Posted by: TomoK12

Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

But 343i were lazy and didn't give us much vehicle variety...


True dat

I now realise how -blam!-e of a map Ragnarok is, vehicle wise that is. They added that god damn Mantis, which isn't even a Halo originiated vehicle.
Valhalla has always been a poor vehicle map. It's in the design.

  • 12.16.2012 1:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garland
Posted by: TomoK12
Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

But 343i were lazy and didn't give us much vehicle variety...
They should make the Mammoth drivable and put it on its own desert map.


I'd love that, but I suspect its too late for that. Maybe Halo 4 can have vehicle DLC, like other games, so who knows? Maybe we will get a Falcon or Hornet, or a Elephant or Mammoth. I suppose that would mean they would be DLC-playlist exclusive and we all know how popular those playlists are.....

  • 12.16.2012 1:36 PM PDT

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OP...cause the UNSC is obviously poor now. Covenant reigns supreme in the sky now.

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Posted by: TopWargamer
OP...cause the UNSC is obviously poor now. Covenant reigns supreme in the sky now.
Yet the Covenant can't afford to properly train their pilots.

  • 12.16.2012 1:37 PM PDT


Posted by: TopWargamer
OP...cause the UNSC is obviously poor now. Covenant reigns supreme in the sky now.


Apparently so, even though Tel'cam escaped with only three Cruisers intact (I think) and yet the Storm faction seems to have a -blam!- bigger fleet than the one that guarded High Charity!

  • 12.16.2012 1:38 PM PDT


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I suspect laziness.

They were totally fine copying the 3D models of the Scorpion, Banshee, Ghost, Plasma Pistol, Concussion Rifle and turrets into H4 so there would be no problem copying at least the Falcon across.

Just as in the same sense they could have easily have given us Mk V, ODST, CQB and Noble Six' helmets if they had wanted to.

I've been playing Reach a lot recently and its been great fun, especially great to see the Falcon flying around and the original design Warthog.
hhahhaaha. They're different, dumbass.


What?
I think it's talking about the 3D models.

Nevertheless, it's bullfrack what you say. At least it's irrelevant. The Scorpion, Banshee and Ghost aren't different in Halo 2 and 3 either.


I thought I was clear.... I'm saying that half of the work is done for 343. They were ok with copying a lot of 3D assets from Reach into H4, so they could/should have done the same with the Falcon.

As for it being irrelevant..... All vehicles have different 3D models in ALL Halo games except Halo 4. Halo 4 is the only major Halo game where weapons and vehicles have been copied from the previous game. The Scorpion, Banshee and Ghost are completely different in Halo 1, Halo 2 and 3.
They didn't use the same 3D models dude.

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Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
Or forgable phantom/ pelican which people have been asking for since H3

I hate it so much when people say this. It doesn't make any sense to put this in for a few reasons, namely that not a single map is large enough and that that sort of vehicle would be ridiculously overpowered. It'd be a waste of time for them to add because everyone would just complain about how stupid it was after they added it.
Unlike Reach, Halo 4 actually has a fully functional Pelican (for a very short campaign segment). It wouldn't be that hard to add into Forge. It likely wouldn't show up in any playlist, but it'd be fantastic for customs and machinima.

And Forge World in Reach could have easily handled Pelicans and Phantoms. Of course, 343 decided it would be better to have 3 separate, tiny Forge worlds (OK, 2 tiny maps and 1 moderate-sized map).

They could work the same way as the LAAT in Star Wars Battlefront. You have the pilot, 3 gunners and 4 passengers. The only real problem would be the player limit. A max of 16 players kills the fun you could get out of the vehicle.

Topic: I have no idea. I'm just going with it wasn't in the campaign so they didn't feel like creating a vehicle just or the MP. I find it dumb they didn't have an UNSC aerial vehicle, but they kept the 4 wheeler. The Hornet/Falcon is a lot more useful than that vehilce.

  • 12.16.2012 1:45 PM PDT

If you clicked on here to ignore my coup, why? Do I look ugly to you? Do I look fat in this dress or what? Jerk.

Because 343i cut corners at every possible angle. Think about it, other than the Storm Rifle (which is a waste of space plasma repeater/rifle replacement), was anything given to the Covenant?

  • 12.16.2012 1:49 PM PDT


Posted by: Kneecap
Because 343i cut corners at every possible angle. Think about it, other than the Storm Rifle (which is a waste of space plasma repeater/rifle replacement), was anything given to the Covenant?


Nope, although they took some pretty good weapons away.

E.g. Plasma Launcher, I found that ok. Pretty useful in Reach anyway on Legendary.

  • 12.16.2012 1:51 PM PDT

Posted by: TomoK12

Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....

But 343i were lazy and didn't give us much vehicle variety...

>343i
>lazy
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  • 12.16.2012 1:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: DarkBen64
They didn't use the same 3D models dude.


Honestly look again. They're identical 3D models but with different skins.

Scorpion vs Scorpion

Banshee vs Banshee

Concussion Rifle vs Concussion Rifle

And on and on and on.....

Scorpion, Ghost, Banshee, Phantom, Wraith, Concussion Rifle, Machine Gun Turret, Plasma Turret and Plasma Pistol are all the identical 3D models with slightly different skins.

Copying the Falcon over from Reach, which uses the same engine as H4, should have been as easy as copying everything else they copied.

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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

As an avid Falcon pilot I am disappoint.

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Because their precious work on the lame Mantis, flashy assassinations, and Ancient Evil marketing. Just watching their trailers with the awful dubstep... *shudders*

Posted by: TopWargamer
OP...cause the UNSC is obviously poor now. Covenant reigns supreme in the sky now.
Good thing for us!

[Edited on 12.16.2012 2:09 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 2:09 PM PDT


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Because their precious work on the lame Mantis, flashy assassinations, and Ancient Evil marketing. Just watching their trailers with the awful dubstep... *shudders*

Posted by: TopWargamer
OP...cause the UNSC is obviously poor now. Covenant reigns supreme in the sky now.
Good thing for us!


This. Damn straight.

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Posted by: Gaara444
They could have at least given us the Elephant....
This too.

  • 12.16.2012 2:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: PhyscoRaiderS97

Posted by: Sliding Ghost
Because their precious work on the lame Mantis, flashy assassinations, and Ancient Evil marketing. Just watching their trailers with the awful dubstep... *shudders*

Posted by: TopWargamer
OP...cause the UNSC is obviously poor now. Covenant reigns supreme in the sky now.
Good thing for us!


This. Damn straight.

  • 12.16.2012 3:24 PM PDT

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  • 12.16.2012 3:25 PM PDT

Covan was here, December 20th.

Come back later, after he's out of Parris Island.

Because 343 isn't Bungie.

Get used to it, because we've got more Halos to come.

  • 12.16.2012 3:26 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

The vehicle sandbox for 4 is disappointing. More breaking news at 11.

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