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Subject: How about this type of Gun Control gun lovers?
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If you want a gun, you can have it. Full automatic assault rifle? Sure. Attachments? Sure. Barrel drum magazine? Sure. SAW? Okay, seems more than a little over the top but alright. Full on machine gun? I wanna draw the line there but we can talk.

Now here's the catch: If you want to get it, you have to go through an exhaustive background check and psych evaluation to prove that you aren't a felon, bat-blam!- insane, a terrorist, or working for a rogue militia group interested in "taking back" America from Big Brother. This would be mandatory for any gun purchase, the more potentially dangerous the weapon, the more strenuous the checks and eval.

What say you.

  • 12.16.2012 8:09 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.

I'm just tired of people thinking that gun control = taking away guns entirely.

  • 12.16.2012 8:10 PM PDT
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I say we have had enough threads on this.

  • 12.16.2012 8:11 PM PDT

I am assuming direct control.

Impractical, people don't go insane because they were born that way, most go insane after something happens to them (Some times, at least). Give a normal man a full auto AK and who says he won't snap later on and kill someone?

  • 12.16.2012 8:11 PM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.

I say people who should not have guns will avoid tests and suddenly you're in the same position we're in today.

It'd be easier, and more effective to mandate mandatory firearms training at 18 years old, and issue every civilian a pistol.

  • 12.16.2012 8:11 PM PDT

Perpetual Ninja in training.

"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe."

DMH

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OP is pointing out the obvious and only answer.


I applaud you on reaching the conclusion that has been long ago determined, and is currently under development.

  • 12.16.2012 8:11 PM PDT
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Why So Serious?

"I'm gonna go America all over everybody's asses!"
-Charlie, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Do you have any idea what kind of expense and bureaucracy that would require?

This coming from someone who is very much pro-gun control.

  • 12.16.2012 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Direct Control
Impractical, people don't go insane because they were born that way, most go insane after something happens to them (Some times, at least). Give a normal man a full auto AK and who says he won't snap later on and kill someone?

Who says that heat lightning won't strike a man dead in the middle of a field?

  • 12.16.2012 8:12 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

I'm all for stricter gun laws. They don't have to be taken away completely, though. (Not directed at anyone)

  • 12.16.2012 8:12 PM PDT
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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.


Posted by: MadMax888
I'm just tired of people thinking that gun control = taking away guns entirely.

  • 12.16.2012 8:12 PM PDT

Fellow Floodian:
Posted by: Oh This Dude
I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D

This is the type of gun control that I would advocate. Most people think of gun control as all or nothing, but I think of it as something like this.

  • 12.16.2012 8:13 PM PDT

If we disagree, it's nothing personal, opinions are opinions.
Antagonizing me to build a false sense of worth is so damn cute.

Brighten your day with science.

The bottom line is that there is no simple solution to this. We're gonna have to make compromises.

  • 12.16.2012 8:13 PM PDT

Guns dont kill people, dangerous minorities do.

  • 12.16.2012 8:16 PM PDT
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I aim to please.

No way. No one is perfect, and a person can easily change after they obtain said weapons.

  • 12.16.2012 8:16 PM PDT

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No one who knew the school killer thought he was crazy enough to do this. They just said that he was extremely shy and was content with just existing. He never really bothered anyone.

He would probably pass your psych evaluation and buy some bigass machine guns

  • 12.16.2012 8:18 PM PDT

I want to install SAM Turrets on my roof.

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Key

Idea from another thread:
Mental competency tests for people who live in your household might help. I know, it's extreme. I know it's irrational. But as long as you don't have a crazy person in your house, you'll still get your gun. Your rights are not infringed.

And, if you do have someone with some sort of serious mental issue in your household, you're required to have a specific system of containing the gun. A lock system of some sort. A specific grade gun case. Etc. Obviously the requirements would change based on the gun itself.

Just an idea. I know it's not a good one as it's a prototype of an idea of an outline of a first draft of an idea for a law, but still.
Maybe have your mental capacity permit renewed annually or biannually by taking your case to a government agency (OMG OMG OMG MOAR JOBS YAY JOBS GO JOBS) and have it approved based on said guidelines. Or, if you have an in-home set up, set up a house call to have a Mental Capacity Safety Inspection Agent come to your house and make sure your set up is up to codeIn response to "people don't want bureaucrats in their houses":Then they bring in specs, schematics, set ups, something to prove they're up to code. If they lie it's fraud. But the specs is only if its an in-home set up impossible to move.

  • 12.16.2012 8:18 PM PDT

Remember those times when we all had something better to be doing, but didn't do it? Those were good times. Gooood times

People lie man, all the time too.

  • 12.16.2012 8:18 PM PDT

Key


Posted by: rennagang
People lie man, all the time too.
The test is obviously not "Hey, are you a crazy person?" "Nope." "Oh, okay. Cool. Here's that AK you wanted."

  • 12.16.2012 8:21 PM PDT

the only thing taking away the second amendment will do is make it so that law abiding citizens won't be able to protect themselves. taking away that second amendment will simply put guns in the hands of criminals alone. because if you want a gun bad enough, you can find one whether or not its legal. all gun control will do is make its so that the ONLY people that have guns, are those that shouldn't have them. I have a right to protect myself, and i wont have the stupidity of a select few people be the reason that right is taken away.

  • 12.16.2012 8:23 PM PDT

Never give up and eventuly you will win.
Can't stop me or break me down.
I am a christian.

OP's right. We need serious background checks for this baby

  • 12.16.2012 8:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: DIGITAL SK1z1lz
the only thing taking away the second amendment will do is make it so that law abiding citizens won't be able to protect themselves. taking away that second amendment will simply put guns in the hands of criminals alone. because if you want a gun bad enough, you can find one whether or not its legal. all gun control will do is make its so that the ONLY people that have guns, are those that shouldn't have them. I have a right to protect myself, and i wont have the stupidity of a select few people be the reason that right is taken away.
Nobody is talking about that, especially the OP. Learn to read.

  • 12.16.2012 8:25 PM PDT

Gather around the campfire, once it goes out, it's out for good.


Posted by: Acres 057
It'd be easier, and more effective to mandate mandatory firearms training at 18 years old, and issue every civilian a pistol.
When a third of your nation is more prepared to blame bad weather on the apocalypse rather than climate change, giving them guns and telling them how to use them is not good.

  • 12.16.2012 8:28 PM PDT
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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

I personally feel that the current laws are adequate. I think better mental healthcare, along with education, would do the best job in reducing the amount of tragedies. I don't think a huge background check that takes months to finish would help any, and for many types of firearms an extensive background check is already required. Tax stamps for SBRs and fully-automatic weapons already take nearly a year to be processed. People change over time.

  • 12.16.2012 8:30 PM PDT

Because a dangerously paranoid man will answer truthfully. Right?

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