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Subject: THIS is what turns someone into a murderer ( GTFIH )
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PHASE 1
-often torture animals.
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-in their 20s or 30s
-single or divorced
-lower to middle class upbringing
-absent father
-obsession with fire
-hates society and blames them for being introverted
-high IQ
-abuse during childhood (bullying, family, etc.) verbal, physical, etc.
- preoccupation with death, possible suicide attempts

Mass murderers are often loners who have very few social connections.


A)But most importantly they become detached from the world, and begin to feel a US vs THEM mentality. They also start to lose hope that they'll ever have a normal life, or ever build another human connection. Because every attempt and interacting and establishing friendship has ended in complete failure, leaving the worse than they were initially.

B)They start to see every little insult, mean joke, harsh comment as somehow attributed to them, this is where the narcissism comes into play

The fact that they can't establish relationships with others (A) leads them to believe that everything in (B) is used to further insult and ruin them
They feel they can't communicate with their families because their families are largely unsupportive

They essentially begin to feel trapped with no exit from their situations, and ingrain in their mind eventually that this is who they are: The Outsider

Most commit suicide at this point

Phase 2
Now that they've established this identity of being the outcast of the world, they proceed to work with the world, always finding ways to disprove their lrejection through chance occurrences. They still want to return to "Human". They will push themselves to do activities that other humans do, but are let down when they realize they simply don't fit. The constant thought pounds through their mind that this is not me, along with, "This is going to end in disaster with my life becoming worse"

So then they shut themselves out from the world, stop interacting with unless absolutely necessary.


PHASE 3

At this point. the only thing the person knows that exists is himself, a state of depersonalization. A pancake being flipped 3 times to this person might mean they need to check the mirror, and other ridiculous connotations are normal for this person. Not only is he an outsider, but he considers himself another species, perhaps a divine creature sent to exact justice in some way. There is no heaven or hell, no moral bindings, just cold calculations and processes. A wonderful sunrise to one person might mean the start of a brand new day, but to the phase3 it means nothing except another day to further along whatever deviant plots they're hatching

The phase3 hopes deep deep inside himself that someone can come save him, bring him back to phase one and make him normal again. But the cold logic that his brain puts out quickly squashes that hope, which will reemerge from time to time

Nothing holds any significance at this point and all that's left is to listen to onesself as to the next course of action, however illogical it may be.

This is where the phase3 paths diverge, with the more violent prone one more likely to act out in a horrid fashion of mass murder
the more passive or content one might take an artistic outlet, such as feverishly making paintings, working on an instrument, etc.


The difficulty with these is that they go largely unnoticed to others, since most of the processes occur within the afflicted persons psyche. That's why alot of the time people will be surprised to know that the quiet asian guy in the back of the class turned out to be one of the most prolific mass shooters in US history. Or the handsome moderately wealthy white male who owns a farm and likes reading can mastermind a plot to slaughter the most people singlehandedly in history.








As I made this I thought of the majority of the population of the Flood

[Edited on 12.16.2012 8:40 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 8:39 PM PDT

As I read that I thought of you OP.

jk i didnt read it lol.

  • 12.16.2012 8:42 PM PDT

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Close, but the plague killed those infected with it, and the ignorant are still alive.
I wish ignorance was a plague.

Another sign: Making long descriptions of sociopathic behavior and posting it on the Flood.

  • 12.16.2012 9:01 PM PDT
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Another sign: Making long descriptions of sociopathic behavior and posting it on the Flood.


u mad

  • 12.16.2012 9:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Bnets Pet Turtle
As I read that I thought of you OP.

jk i didnt read it lol.


lol'd

  • 12.16.2012 9:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Bnets Pet Turtle
As I read that I thought of you OP.

jk i didnt read it lol.

  • 12.16.2012 9:03 PM PDT

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Gaming community, I want you to know that you suck.

I don't know about the high IQ

  • 12.16.2012 9:03 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

>GTFIH

I want Misc to start lifting.

  • 12.16.2012 9:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: King Warpig
PHASE 1
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-high IQ


wat

  • 12.16.2012 9:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: ArrogantRat

Posted by: King Warpig
PHASE 1
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-high IQ


wat


First one is sociopathic behavior and the second one is common amognst serial killers/mass murderers

  • 12.16.2012 9:04 PM PDT

I havem't killed any1...yet

  • 12.16.2012 9:06 PM PDT

Mreh.

What if I just like killing because I find it fun?

  • 12.16.2012 9:07 PM PDT

Good god, you described me.

  • 12.16.2012 9:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Falcon Saber
I like how your sub box is full of science and political videos but your recommendations are full of anime girls kissing each other.

Just Zoid being Zoid ^_^

*insert link to didntreadlol.gif*

  • 12.16.2012 9:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: King Warpig

Posted by: ArrogantRat

Posted by: King Warpig
PHASE 1
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-high IQ


wat


First one is sociopathic behavior and the second one is common amognst serial killers/mass murderers


I was always under the impression that being a criminal had a negative correlation with IQ.

  • 12.16.2012 9:09 PM PDT

I am assuming direct control.


Posted by: King Warpig
PHASE 1
-often torture animals.
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-in their 20s or 30s
-single or divorced
-lower to middle class upbringing
-absent father
-obsession with fire
-hates society and blames them for being introverted
-high IQ
-abuse during childhood (bullying, family, etc.) verbal, physical, etc.
- preoccupation with death, possible suicide attempts


Mass murderers are often loners who have very few social connections.


A)But most importantly they become detached from the world, and begin to feel a US vs THEM mentality. They also start to lose hope that they'll ever have a normal life, or ever build another human connection. Because every attempt and interacting and establishing friendship has ended in complete failure, leaving the worse than they were initially.

B)They start to see every little insult, mean joke, harsh comment as somehow attributed to them, this is where the narcissism comes into play

The fact that they can't establish relationships with others (A) leads them to believe that everything in (B) is used to further insult and ruin them
They feel they can't communicate with their families because their families are largely unsupportive

They essentially begin to feel trapped with no exit from their situations, and ingrain in their mind eventually that this is who they are: The Outsider



The bolded portions describe me pretty well. What I don't enjoy is that I do exhibit some of these behaviors, but I'm not a murderer. I want to be a soldier, I want to save lives. Unfortunately, my parents (They've always thought I was crazy, spent a ton of time with counselors) have been giving me so much -blam!- comparing me to the guy in Connecticut. Just because you're quiet, were bullied, apathetic, and sociopathic doesn't mean you're destined to go on a killing spree.

Hell, one of my good friends cornered me at his house over the weekend and begged me not to kill anyone. It's like, for -blam!-s sake, I want to be alone and in peace, can't I have that right without the suspicion of my peers?

  • 12.16.2012 9:10 PM PDT

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What does the age of still wetting your bed have to do with murderer's?

[Edited on 12.16.2012 9:12 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 9:12 PM PDT
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F0ck the police

The phase3 hopes deep deep inside himself that someone can come save him, bring him back to phase one and make him normal again. But the cold logic that his brain puts out quickly squashes that hope, which will reemerge from time to time

Be gender neutral next time.



[Edited on 12.16.2012 9:13 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 9:12 PM PDT

"You are the last of your kind: bred for combat, built for war. You're the master of any weapon, pilot of any vehicle, and fear no enemy"

Like this isn't a study that has been done literally, hundreds of times.

  • 12.16.2012 9:14 PM PDT


Posted by: jetmann113
The phase3 hopes deep deep inside himself that someone can come save him, bring him back to phase one and make him normal again. But the cold logic that his brain puts out quickly squashes that hope, which will reemerge from time to time

Be gender neutral next time.

Agreed. Some 30-40% of murderers are women.

  • 12.16.2012 9:15 PM PDT

Unreal, isn't it?


Posted by: Direct Control

Hell, one of my good friends cornered me at his house over the weekend and begged me not to kill anyone. It's like, for -blam!-s sake, I want to be alone and in peace, can't I have that right without the suspicion of my peers?


Really? That's ridiculous.

[ridiculous that a friend would do that, did you give him any valid reason to do so..?]

As to OP
I value the fact that you're trying to dissect this and think about why people do these things, that's the right mindset. I'm not sure how much of what you wrote was about the actual causes though, it seems like you gave a list of behaviors. (And I think you might've made a few too many generalizations/assumptions)

[Edited on 12.16.2012 9:19 PM PST]

  • 12.16.2012 9:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Direct Control

Posted by: King Warpig
PHASE 1
-often torture animals.
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-in their 20s or 30s
-single or divorced
-lower to middle class upbringing
-absent father
-obsession with fire
-hates society and blames them for being introverted
-high IQ
-abuse during childhood (bullying, family, etc.) verbal, physical, etc.
- preoccupation with death, possible suicide attempts


Mass murderers are often loners who have very few social connections.


A)But most importantly they become detached from the world, and begin to feel a US vs THEM mentality. They also start to lose hope that they'll ever have a normal life, or ever build another human connection. Because every attempt and interacting and establishing friendship has ended in complete failure, leaving the worse than they were initially.

B)They start to see every little insult, mean joke, harsh comment as somehow attributed to them, this is where the narcissism comes into play

The fact that they can't establish relationships with others (A) leads them to believe that everything in (B) is used to further insult and ruin them
They feel they can't communicate with their families because their families are largely unsupportive

They essentially begin to feel trapped with no exit from their situations, and ingrain in their mind eventually that this is who they are: The Outsider



The bolded portions describe me pretty well. What I don't enjoy is that I do exhibit some of these behaviors, but I'm not a murderer. I want to be a soldier, I want to save lives. Unfortunately, my parents (They've always thought I was crazy, spent a ton of time with counselors) have been giving me so much -blam!- comparing me to the guy in Connecticut. Just because you're quiet, were bullied, apathetic, and sociopathic doesn't mean you're destined to go on a killing spree.

Hell, one of my good friends cornered me at his house over the weekend and begged me not to kill anyone. It's like, for -blam!-s sake, I want to be alone and in peace, can't I have that right without the suspicion of my peers?


Wow, only an idiot would think that saying "Oh hey, I bet you're planning on murdering a few people, please don't do it"
would actually change someone's mind, let alone come anywhere close to even remotely helping them.

If anything it'd just make them more bitter and inclined to go through with something crazy like that.

  • 12.16.2012 9:21 PM PDT
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Oh good lord I'm a mass murderer.

-blam!- me.

  • 12.16.2012 9:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

The Port Arthur massacre was perpetrated by a functionally retarded man.

  • 12.16.2012 9:26 PM PDT

"Life is constantly fleeting from your grasp even from the very day it's bestowed upon you, but the shadow of death is always there, waiting for its chance to take you away."

"Even though many may not think so, ignorance and innocence are one and the same. The only difference is that one sounds nicer."

"I once knew a man who spent his entire life contemplating where we go after our death....it's a shame he realized it a second too late to tell anyone."


Posted by: King Warpig
PHASE 1
-often torture animals.
-wet the bed beyond the age of 12.
-in their 20s or 30s
-single or divorced
-lower to middle class upbringing
-absent father
-obsession with fire
-hates society and blames them for being introverted
-high IQ
-abuse during childhood (bullying, family, etc.) verbal, physical, etc.
- preoccupation with death, possible suicide attempts
1. Nope...unless you count humans as animals. There are a few I wouldn't mind torturing, but they deserve it.
2. Nope. :P
3. Not yet, two years away from my twenties.
4. Happily in a relationship. :)
5. Middle class, hope to make it higher one day.
6. Nope.
7. I like fire, but no obsession. I lean more toward knives.
8. Society is irrelevant until it interrupts my private business.
9. Don't know my IQ, won't make any claims on how high or low it may be.
10. None that I recall, though most of my childhood is a blank.
11. Often think of death, yes. It's a fun subject! :D

I decided to turn your post into a little quiz for myself. lol

  • 12.16.2012 9:34 PM PDT

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