- prometheus25
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- Exalted Mythic Member
Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"
Posted by: Happy Flowers
Posted by: prometheus25
Posted by: Happy Flowers
Posted by: prometheus25
Posted by: Happy Flowers
The last thing we want is for criminals to start thinking that their victims could be just as dangerous as the police.
Why would that be the last thing we'd want? Why would I want to be seen as vulnerable to someone looking to hurt somebody?
They're just looking to make a quick buck. If they don't feel pressured to shoot you dead right off the bat then society is doing it's job.
So I am supposed to surrender my possessions because someone wants to make a quick buck. He doesn't want to murder me, and that is a "win" to you?
What if they aren't looking to take my money? What if I return from home and my girlfriend is being raped? You list burglary and theft as your leading example, but it is the lowest of situations in which I would want to have my firearm with me. You can't tell me "he doesn't want to kill you, so we're doing things right" in these situations.
In Somalia sometimes armed victims of a crime survive and sometimes they don't, but I guarantee you that they never ever get the first shot off.
We aren't in Somalia. Somalia is not on par economically or socially with the United States, so it is an inappropriate analogue.
I'm not going to sit here and recite the second amendment as my reason for keeping guns. I am an avid firearm enthusiast and owner, and even I hate when people do that, as I think it is antiquated, outdated and taken out of context. I DO think firearm reform is necessary, I DON'T think keeping them out of the hands of law abiding citizens is the answer.
Whelp you sure are thick. We don't need to legislate anything, we just need to change America's culture of hollow bravado. Shoot as many rapists as you like, eventually, if you're effective they'll just bring guns themselves and maybe helmets too. Maybe in a few generations your children will have the freedom to have RPGs so they can take down rapey kevlar turtle-men.
Whether or not weapons protect people from violence is irrelevant to the second amendment though. You think you deserve guns that's fine, you think you deserve them because you're making society safer then pack your tiny dick up and move to Somalia.
Please do not degrade this conversation to insults and petty "gtfo" tactics. Not only is it ineffective and rude, but -blam!-ly explicit remarks are against the ToS you agreed to upon you account creation.
I do not wish to be a vigilante as you seem to see. All I want is my fair ability to protect myself from those who wish to violate the social contract that others such as myself follow.
The taking away and banning of firearms will be just as effective of making gun crimes a thing of the past as efforts to remove cocain, methamphetamine, and other drugs off the street are. What WOULD work is getting the help that mentally distressed individuals need when they need it.
If you would like to continue this discussion maturely, I look forward to your post. If you are just going to reference my genitalia and the relocation to various geo-political regions, then I see this as finished.