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Subject: So, I hate to say it, but Black Ops 2 was better than Halo 4.

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Posted by: Dragonzzilla
That's like your opinion, man. I personally like Halo more, but that's my opinion.
And you are entitled to it good sir.


Posted by: Haloroach
While I agree that Black Ops 2 was a good game (though I preferred the original's story as I'm more of a plot driven fan than character) I disagree that it was better than Halo 4. But I respect your opinion, and I'm pretty sure you're probably one of the 2 percent of the Flood that legitimately likes Blops 2 over Halo 4 and isn't just conforming to blind hate.

I'll be typing up an analysis for 4's story sooner or later. If you're interested, I could link you to it once I'm done Charlie.


Please do.

  • 12.17.2012 6:52 PM PDT


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Halo 4 just took itself too seriously. Bungie didn't do that. They made sure that it felt like an adventure. 343i was trying way too hard to be canonically correct when making the game, and in doing so took it all too seriously.
Last time a Halo game didn't fit in with the canon too much, people HATED it.
Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Black Ops 2, in comparison, still managed to deliver the craziness of the Cold War era plots and intrigue, while still staying somewhat artistic and oddly light with it. It seemed like an action movie, ready for a summer release.
When I play a game, I want to play a game. I don't want to feel like I'm watching a movie. I don't feel too involved. I have yet to play the campaign of Blops 2, so who knows?

But of course, this is all opinions.

[Edited on 12.17.2012 6:55 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 6:55 PM PDT
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@ the OP's link - That was the ending to my story line too. xD It was honestly a good song. Overall, I like Halo 4 more. Black Ops 2 was one of the best ones I've played. The fact that you can have different endings always make a game more fun.

  • 12.17.2012 6:55 PM PDT
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I did enjoy CoD BlOps II better than Halo 4 multiplayer wise. Cods campaign was lacking.. Of/c BlOps campaign wasn't as good as WaW anyway.

  • 12.17.2012 6:57 PM PDT
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  • 12.17.2012 6:58 PM PDT

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  • 12.17.2012 7:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Spoilers: The after credits scene of Black Ops 2 as proof Treyarch didn't take this too seriously

No, that's just an awful band playing in an awful game

But I will agree that Halo 4's campaign sucked

  • 12.17.2012 7:01 PM PDT

You got stuck by FalconStickr

Comparing Halo 4 to BO2 is like comparing water to orange juice. You guys need to let this comparison war go for the love of god. Its been like 5 years now how are you not sick of it yet?

  • 12.17.2012 7:02 PM PDT

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Lol no.

  • 12.17.2012 7:06 PM PDT

Haven't played BO2 yet but 343 did make Halo 4 a little too dramatic.

  • 12.17.2012 7:07 PM PDT
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I agree with OP

  • 12.17.2012 7:07 PM PDT

I agree

  • 12.17.2012 7:13 PM PDT

I am alpha, i am omega.

I am the last of the primes.

I still don't get it, you guys -blam!-ed about everything in reach and 343 fixed 80% of them. And yet still you cry and cry.

Armour lock - gone
Bloom - gone
Maps not from single player - Done
Br back - Done
Overpowered sniper - gone
Slow movement speed and jump height - fixed
Faster game play - Done
Tougher vehicles - Too a most part done
Master chief back - Done
Different forge world variants - done
1-50 ranking - Will soon be back

I'm not saying this game is perfect but what 343 does to please 1 person upsets another, hell half of you just want halo 3 with a 4 there instead and better graphics.

  • 12.17.2012 7:16 PM PDT

-Squishy-

I for one am glad they took it seriously. The Black Ops 2 easter egg thing wasn't even funny...

  • 12.17.2012 7:16 PM PDT

Posted by: ferrrari
I still don't get it, you guys -blam!-ed about everything in reach and 343 fixed 80% of them. And yet still you cry and cry.

Armour lock - gone
Bloom - gone
Maps not from single player - Done
Br back - Done
Overpowered sniper - gone
Slow movement speed and jump height - fixed
Faster game play - Done
Tougher vehicles - Too a most part done
Master chief back - Done
Different forge world variants - done
1-50 ranking - Will soon be back

I'm not saying this game is perfect but what 343 does to please 1 person upsets another, hell half of you just want halo 3 with a 4 there instead and better graphics.


lol thanks for the laugh

  • 12.17.2012 11:38 PM PDT

Turkey

Gameplay-wise, it doesn't matter which one is better, because Hawken beats both. Story-wise, though, Halo 4 blew Blops II out of the water. Halo's story and epic universe are the only reason that I have been and will continue to play Halo.

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  • 12.17.2012 11:48 PM PDT

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I'm having more fun with Black Ops 2, I'll be honest. I haven't had this much fun in a CoD game since the first Modern Warfare.

Halo 4 is a great game, but I'm just not into at the moment.

But I would have to say that Black Ops had a better story, or at least a better executed story.

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Posted by: ferrrari
Bloom - gone
Maps not from single player - Done
Br back - Done
Overpowered sniper - gone
Slow movement speed and jump height - fixed
Faster game play - Done
Tougher vehicles - Too a most part done
Master chief back - Done

I'm not saying this game is perfect but what 343 does to please 1 person upsets another, hell half of you just want halo 3 with a 4 there instead and better graphics.

-excess Bloom is still there for automatics and it's even worse than in Reach. Campaign should not have the same niche range combat as MP
-*cough*Spartan Ops*cough*
-I'm pretty sure people wanted the DMR replaced with the BR...
-still powerful, just more harder to use
-lol no
-it's done so horribly. Buffed guns + instant respawn + long shield recharge waiting time + disappearing guns = ugly mess
-still unpleasant to use them
--blam!- Chief

Well I wanted a game that would bring out the best of the trilogy.

My main gripe is that Halo 4 tried to be too much like CE:

-get rid of secondary gun on HUD because it's clutter despite the fact that there are dozens of other distracting HUD elements...
-every cutscene has Chief wielding the AR while Halo 2 allowed our picked up guns to appear
-no more carrying over weapons to the next level like in Halo 2/3
-Dawn has 3 QTE sequences which exactly mirror CE level PoA: cryotube, opening a door, surprise Elite
-Chief can't jump very high
-Chief has fall damage

[Edited on 12.18.2012 12:01 AM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 11:57 PM PDT


Posted by: ferrrari
I still don't get it, you guys -blam!-ed about everything in reach and 343 fixed 80% of them. And yet still you cry and cry.

Armour lock - gone
Bloom - gone
Maps not from single player - Done
Br back - Done
Overpowered sniper - gone
Slow movement speed and jump height - fixed
Faster game play - Done
Tougher vehicles - Too a most part done
Master chief back - Done
Different forge world variants - done
1-50 ranking - Will soon be back

I'm not saying this game is perfect but what 343 does to please 1 person upsets another, hell half of you just want halo 3 with a 4 there instead and better graphics.




Armour lock - True
Bloom - Still There
Maps not from single player - Sparten Ops
Br back - Meh...True
Overpowered sniper - Still OP, but laggy as hell
Slow movement speed and jump height - still there (MM gametypes have base movement speed turned up)
Faster game play - Games still last on average from 9-12 minutes in TS
Tougher vehicles - Still weak to loadout weapons, especially Plasma Grenades.
Master chief back - Who really cared?

Different forge world variants
- They are small and dont have flat organic terrain... the only thing we really asked for... ohhh and a covenant forge pallet...... and a Snow based map......
We got a glitched lighting system with a couple cool trait zones and no longer customizable gametypes.... see what happened there?

1-50 ranking - Will not be visible in game to players.

  • 12.17.2012 11:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deadlights911
I agree with OP

  • 12.18.2012 12:03 AM PDT


Posted by: ferrrari
I still don't get it, you guys -blam!-ed about everything in reach and 343 fixed 80% of them. And yet still you cry and cry.

Armour lock - gone
Bloom - gone
Maps not from single player - Done
Br back - Done
Overpowered sniper - gone
Slow movement speed and jump height - fixed
Faster game play - Done
Tougher vehicles - Too a most part done
Master chief back - Done
Different forge world variants - done
1-50 ranking - Will soon be back

I'm not saying this game is perfect but what 343 does to please 1 person upsets another, hell half of you just want halo 3 with a 4 there instead and better graphics.



Armour lock - Didnt have problem with TU'd version, but still good its gone
Bloom - Also dindnt have problem with TU'd version, but good its mostly gone
Maps not from single player - Good maps from campaign > bad original maps
Br back - Fine
Overpowered sniper - Its still strong against vehicles, and you can get one with 16 ammo from ordnance, also binary rifle was introduced
Slow movement speed and jump height Fine
Faster game play - This was achieved with insta spawns and faster killtimes, nty
Tougher vehicles - Vehicles sucks even harder than before, only gauss and scorpion are worth using
Master chief back - Fine
Different forge world variants - Well im not seeing any new forge maps in MM
1-50 ranking - 1-50 was meh, but its still ok that ranking system is coming

  • 12.18.2012 12:07 AM PDT

I have to agree. Halo 4 was sub par.

  • 12.18.2012 12:34 AM PDT

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  • 12.18.2012 12:38 AM PDT

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For those who just want my opinion:

I actually prefer Halo 4 Over Black Ops 2.

For those who care enough to want to know why:

The only COD games I ever really enjoyed was WAW and the first MW. I barely played the newest one other than slay a few zombies with some friends. However, despite that, I was rather disappointed with the fact that pretty much every COD game I've played since MW1 had the same feel to them in terms of game play. Not to get me wrong, I quite enjoyed the story of the game as well as their zombie apocalypse side story. But each game just felt like copy of the other, except for some new items, perks, and story.

However, that isn't to say Halo didn't suffer from a similar affect. At least from Halo 3 to Reach this was the case (though, Reach did bring in a slightly new feel) Halo 4 however, gave of the feel of an entirely new game. It still felt like Halo, but it felt new and different from its predecessors. Now the transition of ownership to the franchise was probably the major contributor to that feel, but honestly, I feel like, in a sense, it revived the game. The style is different, the graphics are enhanced, and the game play is changed moderately through changes with the 'load out' concept and Specializations as well as new guns, perks, and armor abilities (all of which were made to fit the certain strategies of players. Or in other words, your going to find some that you like, and some that you hate. It's natural). Plus, I believe 343 did a fantastic job continuing the story from where it left off in Halo 3. I won't give any spoilers, but I personally believe that the way 343 went about adding an entirely new prospective to the story just blew me away.

On a side note, I'm also very pleased with the way they went about leveling up, credit dispersement, and item unlocking for character and strategy personalization. It felt very fair and well balanced.

There is so much more I could go on about, but if you just read through that much, I just want to say I appreciate you, and you are awesome.

  • 12.18.2012 12:58 AM PDT

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Black Ops 2 was the best CoD game ever, but was still pretty rubbish. Campaign was a joke.

  • 12.18.2012 1:01 AM PDT