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Subject: So, Halo 4 Officially The Worst Halo?

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Anyone else laugh at how badly this game was handled from launch window?

Honestly, let's look at the facts.


1) This game is a bomba.

Price dropped 33% in 5 weeks? Game is now selling for $39.99. That's sad.

2) 343 is horrible at managing the game. Let's see all the problems that raised in the first few weeks, feel free to add if I forget anything.

a) Server issues for the first few weeks, many users couldn't even play the first few days.

b) 343 (343 IS a part of Microsoft, so Microsoft messing up means 343 messed up) messed up The Crimson Map Pack and screwed over many of limited edition users, and war pass buyer. Claims it was a free 7 day trial, but we all clearly know it wasn't and it's just a cover up.

c) People got BANNED permanently yesterday for playing the Crimson Map, apparently the users got unbanned today, and it only affect less than 200 people, but that's still 200 people that got screwed over.

d) Users who bought a legal copy and played the game early got banned, account and console, and still haven't been unbanned.

e) Microsoft screwed over Limited Edition users even more, giving everyone who played early Specialization codes early for playing before November 20th.

f) speaking of which, many players haven't gotten their codes, leaving them capped at 70, it's like 343 doesn't want players to play their game.

g) Speaking of 343 not wanting players to play their game, a third of the game was disc locked, and you can't play it at all offline (Spartan Ops), and if you do play online, YOU HAVE to wait a week for 343 to add the missions, horrible.

h) Oh, and speaking of an incomplete game, how long did it take for the file share to go up, a month? Is it even up now?

i) 343 is quiet and shady about everything. They refuse to talk to the community often, except for their useless updates on Wednesday.
Did I miss anything? I probably did.

Anyways, back to facts.

3) This game is the the worst reviewed main Halo game to date.

An 87 out of 100. To compare. Halo CE is a 97 out of 100. Halo 2 is a 95 out of 100. Halo 3 is a 94 out of 100.

Even Halo:Reach scored higher than this game. This game is down their in the ODST and Wars level. For Microsoft's biggest, AAA franchise, a 87 out of 100 is awful.

Speaking of which...

4) This game is also the worst USER reviewed Halo game.

A 6.9. The average user review is a 6.9. Halo CE's user review is an 8.5. Halo 2's is an 8.1. Halo 3's 7.6. Halo 3:ODST is a 7.1. Halo Wars is a 7.2. Halo:Reach is a 7.6. The average player/user hates this game more than any other Halo game. That's sad.


5) Speaking of users, the population for this game is terrible, and dropping badly EVERY day.

Notice that huge steep decline, that grows every day?
. Is Halo 4 losing it's population faster than Reach? It appears so. No one wants it play this game anymore.

b]6) The game sold less, and worse than Halo 3, and Halo:Reach.
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Courtesy of the November NPD. Halo 4 placed at Number 2, and only sold 3.2

02. Halo 4 (360) Microsoft - 3.2M (Reach and Halo 3 did 3.3 million)

Oh, and Halo 4 sold less than Halo 3 and Halo:Reach in Europe as well.

'Halo 4' ranks as the 18th biggest SKU launch in terms of week 1 units, but does not beat 2007's 'Halo 3' (15th biggest SKU) or indeed 2010's 'Halo:Reach' (12th biggest SKU).

Also note, Halo 4 had more time to in November to sell copy. So Halo 4 still managed to sell less than Halo 3 and Reach, even though Halo 4 had 2 more weeks (than Reach) and 4 more weeks (than Halo 3) to sell.


I can't think of more to add to this list off the top of my head, and I'm running of characters to use anyways, but I might add more to the list, for know I'm done though.

So, can anyone actually disagree that this game isn't the worst Halo game yet? Because it is.

  • 12.17.2012 11:02 AM PDT

Per Audacia Ad Astra

In my opinion, and this thread will have many opinions, Halo 4 was not the worst Halo.

  • 12.17.2012 11:03 AM PDT

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No. Halo Wars is the worst Halo.

  • 12.17.2012 11:04 AM PDT

No u

Posted by: SpeedyBlueDude
So, can anyone actually disagree that this game isn't the worst Halo game yet? Because it is.[/b]
But that's, like, your opinion bro.

  • 12.17.2012 11:04 AM PDT
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Who are you to decide to speak for everyone else

This game is one of the few Halo games that i actually liked aside from CE and Halo 2. Unlike the pathetic -blam!- infested games known as Halo 3 and Reach.

  • 12.17.2012 11:05 AM PDT

Yes.

  • 12.17.2012 11:05 AM PDT

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Halo Wars comes in at #1 (although the multiplayer was pretty good IMO), and halo 4 comes in 2nd place.

  • 12.17.2012 11:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bungie Sam
In my opinion, and this thread will have many opinions, Halo 4 was not the worst Halo.
Agreed. It has some issues, some of them very real, some are more subjective from individual gamer to individual gamer. I think there is a great shooter in there if they do a bit of tweaking.

It's certainly not the worst Halo title.

  • 12.17.2012 11:07 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
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Posted by: Vgnut117
No. Halo Wars is the worst Halo.


Get out.

  • 12.17.2012 11:07 AM PDT

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1.) Many new games see price cuts for the holidays. Happens every year with almost all the big titles.

2.) It's their first full game that they are managing online. They reiterated that in the early stages, playlists would rotate in and out and that title updates would attempt to streamline things and add a ranking system hopefully in January. This is actually smart. No reason to think that MM would be perfect right out the box, and instead they test entirely playable games to see what people are playing and what they do/don't like. Again, this is a smart business practice. If you don't have patience, go take your ritalin. (Not to mention, Microsoft, not 343i, messed up the Crimson release)

3.) You cited Metacritic. Automatic fail.

4.) Trusting users to accurately rate a game on a subjective scale that is different for every person that rates games is terrible too.

5.) The population is going up, not down. Halocharts is inaccurate. More people are buying the game as it gets closer to holidays. Also, people are now firmly entrenched in Halo, CoD, or Battlefield. PLUS, the FPS genre is bleeding, albeit slowly. The FPS market is over-saturated, and almost no company is bringing true innovation to the genre. Many gamers can get their fix elsewhere nowadays.

I firmly disagree that this is the worst Halo.


[Edited on 12.17.2012 11:10 AM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 11:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: Vgnut117
No. Halo Wars is the worst Halo.


Get out.

  • 12.17.2012 11:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
Get out.

Halo Wars is by far the worst of the bunch. Some of us have actually played RTS games.

  • 12.17.2012 11:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
Get out.

Halo Wars is by far the worst of the bunch. Some of us have actually played RTS games.

For an Xbox RTS it ain't too bad, eh?

  • 12.17.2012 11:10 AM PDT

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Reach was way worse.

  • 12.17.2012 11:11 AM PDT


Posted by: Make117
Reach was way worse.

Nope, Halo 4 was worse.

  • 12.17.2012 11:12 AM PDT

I really like Halo 4. I thought Reach sucked. I would get bored playing it after 30 minutes.

  • 12.17.2012 11:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: Vgnut117

Posted by: HipiO7
Get out.

Halo Wars is by far the worst of the bunch. Some of us have actually played RTS games.
What RTS worked better for consoles?

There is no argument to be made (not that you were, I'm just pointing this out for the idiots that will think this) that HWars was a fail because it was on a console. Everyone knows the genre just works better on PC. That being said, Ensemble did an excellent job making the game very user friendly with the tools they had available to them, in my opinion. I do not know of a RTS game for a console that was made better.

  • 12.17.2012 11:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: ElementalRunner
For an Xbox RTS it ain't too bad, eh?

Platform is irrelevant. I'm comparing it to any other $60 retail game. I don't see why it gets to have the bar set lower. And there are games like Battle For Middle Earth II that nailed down that control scheme before Wars.

Are there really people claiming Wars is better than 4, ODST, or Reach? That's delusional.

  • 12.17.2012 11:14 AM PDT

I dunno, I enjoy this game a lot more than I did Reach, so I will continue to play it.

Why does everyone always have to make things a competition? If you enjoy a game, play it. If you don't like it, don't play it. No one cares what you think about the game.

  • 12.17.2012 11:14 AM PDT

Lol you forgot to mention the fact that the game got a 9.8 out of 10 on IGN. Also, it seems to me that you don't understand that this is 343's first development; I'm sure they will do a lot better in the future. It just takes time and patience and intelligence.

  • 12.17.2012 11:15 AM PDT

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For a CONSOLE RTS, Halo Wars was pretty good.

Halo 4 is, by all means, the worst Halo ever.



*Note that everything above is my personal opinion.

  • 12.17.2012 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Vgnut117
No. Halo Wars is the worst Halo.
Actually Halo 2 was, its multiplayer wasn't even bug tested.

OT: Halo 4 is the best Halo Game to date, its not incomplete and the Spartan Op's missions are meant to be weekly episodic missions.

As far as im concerned everybody just seems to have blind hatred of anything 343i does.

They could quite literally make the game free and you will all complain that halo sucks so much they make it free.

If they increased the price you would complain Microsoft is being greedy.

Bungie spoiled its community and now you spoilt brats want everything right here, right now. Not even the Skyrim fans where this nuts when it took 3 months for the dev kit to come out.

  • 12.17.2012 11:16 AM PDT

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343i tried to change Halo similar to COD and Battlefield games.

Which it looks like they don't know nothing about what the community wants and have played for 10 years.

All 343i employees (200) are not doing anything. Only like 50 of them are really working on something, yeah Halo 5 and 6...

  • 12.17.2012 11:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: ElementalRunner
For an Xbox RTS it ain't too bad, eh?

Platform is irrelevant. I'm comparing it to any other $60 retail game. I don't see why it gets to have the bar set lower. And there are games like Battle For Middle Earth II that nailed down that control scheme before Wars.

Are there really people claiming Wars is better than 4, ODST, or Reach? That's delusional.

Are their difference in control scheme between those two? I've played both, but can't remember.

I was pro in Battle for Middle Earth 2 on PC, so I just can't play it on Xbox now ahah.

  • 12.17.2012 11:18 AM PDT

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  • 12.17.2012 11:18 AM PDT