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Subject: Guns can allow evil men to kill easier


Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS
Do not ever underestimate the power of a revolution. The same thing was said about a bunch of farmers with muskets vs the entire British Empire. But look what happened. Determination to throw off a bully succeeded, and will always succeed, if the will is strong, and the rebels are united.
@bolded, I'm not, you are underestimating the power of arguably the strongest military in the world.

Determination doesn't mean anything when your enemy can kill you with UAVs while sipping tea on the other side of the world, or inboard one of many nuclear aircraft carriers.
Think man, be innovative! A rebel group could build a laser and burn the drone's wings off. Where there's a will, there's ALWAYS a way. Willpower beats technology every time.

  • 12.17.2012 3:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Technoxious
Yes he took his mother's firearms...which was illegal. Thus he illegally acquired the weapons. Plus, no one's dealing with the cartels or terrorists. If people want something and are willing to pay for it, people will sell it to them. Just look at prohibition.
stealing from your mother is almost certainly easier then having to go through more shadier channels, why are you trying to make it easier for people to kill each other?

And last i checked, alcohol:

1. Is a lot harder to use as a weapon than a gun

2. Is actually addicting and effects your brain, unlike guns

  • 12.17.2012 3:51 PM PDT


Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS

Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS
Do not ever underestimate the power of a revolution. The same thing was said about a bunch of farmers with muskets vs the entire British Empire. But look what happened. Determination to throw off a bully succeeded, and will always succeed, if the will is strong, and the rebels are united.
@bolded, I'm not, you are underestimating the power of arguably the strongest military in the world.

Determination doesn't mean anything when your enemy can kill you with UAVs while sipping tea on the other side of the world, or inboard one of many nuclear aircraft carriers.
Think man, be innovative! A rebel group could build a laser and burn the drone's wings off. Where there's a will, there's ALWAYS a way. Willpower beats technology every time.


...Wat. No. That's not gonna happen. But we already have plenty of examples of rebel groups standing up to superior military forces. A serpent can be taken down by a swarm of ants and there are a lot more of us than there are of them. Just look at what a group of rebels in caves have done in Afghanistan. Not that I'm condoning them of course, but just that guerilla warfare is a very powerful tactic for repelling a superiorly armed force.

  • 12.17.2012 3:52 PM PDT

Tej~


Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS

Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS
Do not ever underestimate the power of a revolution. The same thing was said about a bunch of farmers with muskets vs the entire British Empire. But look what happened. Determination to throw off a bully succeeded, and will always succeed, if the will is strong, and the rebels are united.
@bolded, I'm not, you are underestimating the power of arguably the strongest military in the world.

Determination doesn't mean anything when your enemy can kill you with UAVs while sipping tea on the other side of the world, or inboard one of many nuclear aircraft carriers.
Think man, be innovative! A rebel group could build a laser and burn the drone's wings off. Where there's a will, there's ALWAYS a way. Willpower beats technology every time.
What was i thinking? surely we could jury rig a slingshot to fire homemade molotovs into the carrier's thermal exhaust port!

  • 12.17.2012 3:54 PM PDT


Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: Technoxious
Yes he took his mother's firearms...which was illegal. Thus he illegally acquired the weapons. Plus, no one's dealing with the cartels or terrorists. If people want something and are willing to pay for it, people will sell it to them. Just look at prohibition.
stealing from your mother is almost certainly easier then having to go through more shadier channels, why are you trying to make it easier for people to kill each other?

And last i checked, alcohol:

1. Is a lot harder to use as a weapon than a gun

2. Is actually addicting and effects your brain, unlike guns


What? I'm not talking about using alcohol as a weapon...I'm talking about how people will illegally provide a product if there is a market for it, aka there is someone willing to pay for it.

So you're 1. and 2. don't really make any sense.

  • 12.17.2012 3:54 PM PDT

"No man chooses evil because it is evil; he only mistakes it for happiness, the good he seeks."

-Mary Wallstonecraft

  • 12.17.2012 3:55 PM PDT

Tej~


Posted by: Technoxious

Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: Technoxious
Yes he took his mother's firearms...which was illegal. Thus he illegally acquired the weapons. Plus, no one's dealing with the cartels or terrorists. If people want something and are willing to pay for it, people will sell it to them. Just look at prohibition.
stealing from your mother is almost certainly easier then having to go through more shadier channels, why are you trying to make it easier for people to kill each other?

And last i checked, alcohol:

1. Is a lot harder to use as a weapon than a gun

2. Is actually addicting and effects your brain, unlike guns


What? I'm not talking about using alcohol as a weapon...I'm talking about how people will illegally provide a product if there is a market for it, aka there is someone willing to pay for it.

So you're 1. and 2. don't really make any sense.
I'm saying that comparing prohibition of alcohol and prohibition of guns doesn't make sense because they're completely different things, it'd be like prohibiting water, then when it doesn't work out you say "see, this is why you can't prohibit guns!".

[Edited on 12.17.2012 4:07 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS
You're gonna have to give some sauce on that one, bro.


In this page we are told that the British army in the War of Independence was made up of 60,000 people at its peak, half of whom were actually German auxiliaries. So that's 30,000 British soldiers.

This lists the overall size of the British army towards the bottom of the page:

At the outbreak of the Revolutionary War the British Regular Army comprised 2 Troops of Horse Guards, 5 Regiments of Horse, 3 Regiments of Dragoon Guards, 14 Regiments of Dragoons, 3 Regiments of Light Dragoons, 3 Regiments of Foot Guards and 70 Regiments of Foot.

so that's near enough 100,000 men, of which less than a third were sent to the US, and we haven't even started to count the other auxiliaries we could have raised from around our Empire (that covered most of the known world).

[Edited on 12.17.2012 4:00 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 3:59 PM PDT


Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS

Posted by: SunGlassed Skunk

Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS
Do not ever underestimate the power of a revolution. The same thing was said about a bunch of farmers with muskets vs the entire British Empire. But look what happened. Determination to throw off a bully succeeded, and will always succeed, if the will is strong, and the rebels are united.
@bolded, I'm not, you are underestimating the power of arguably the strongest military in the world.

Determination doesn't mean anything when your enemy can kill you with UAVs while sipping tea on the other side of the world, or inboard one of many nuclear aircraft carriers.
Think man, be innovative! A rebel group could build a laser and burn the drone's wings off. Where there's a will, there's ALWAYS a way. Willpower beats technology every time.
What was i thinking? surely we could jury rig a slingshot to fire homemade molotovs into the carrier's thermal exhaust port!
You're being an idiot. Making a laser really isn't that hard. You're missing the whole point of what I'm saying. People find a way!

  • 12.17.2012 4:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Dookums460

Posted by: Incandescence
In the way of part of the new Germany was Poland so Hitler and Stalin took it over so Germany could grow.

What.

Or maybe we could help the people themselves with Mental Care.

...NAH, THAT'S TOO HARD

  • 12.17.2012 4:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS

Posted by: Opinion

Posted by: XGO MONSTROUS
Do not ever underestimate the power of a revolution. The same thing was said about a bunch of farmers with muskets vs the entire British Empire. But look what happened. Determination to throw off a bully succeeded, and will always succeed, if the will is strong, and the rebels are united.


You realize the forces that took part in the War of Independence only accounted for a fraction of the British armed forces and was nowhere near "the entire British Empire" and that, if the British had brought all their troops to the table, farmers with guns wouldn't have stood a chance, right?
You're gonna have to give some sauce on that one, bro.

Are you joking or just lacking the knowledge?

  • 12.17.2012 4:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Opinion


In this page we are told that the British army in the War of Independence was made up of 60,000 people at its peak, half of whom were actually German auxiliaries. So that's 30,000 British soldiers.

This lists the overall size of the British army towards the bottom of the page:

At the outbreak of the Revolutionary War the British Regular Army comprised 2 Troops of Horse Guards, 5 Regiments of Horse, 3 Regiments of Dragoon Guards, 14 Regiments of Dragoons, 3 Regiments of Light Dragoons, 3 Regiments of Foot Guards and 70 Regiments of Foot.

so that's near enough 100,000 men, of which less than a third were sent to the US, and we haven't even started to count the other auxiliaries we could have raised from around our Empire (that covered most of the known world).


The king sent all AVAILABLE resources to stop the rebellion. The empire failed miserably, and the king pulled out because it was a lost cause. Willpower > technology, manpower.

Also, you're using Wikipedia as a source.

[Edited on 12.17.2012 4:06 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: TomoK12
Are you joking or just lacking the knowledge?
Unless you're gonna say something useful, snide comments aren't appreciated. Be quite please.

  • 12.17.2012 4:04 PM PDT

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