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Subject: How do we end bullying?

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Posted by: True Underdog
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Weak children need to be taught to stand up to them. A bully isn't a bully if no-ones gives a damn about him, they're like physical trolls really. If everyone could stand up to them they wouldn't bother, it's our sheltered society thats bringing about this weakness and dependance on adults.


I would argue that it's zero tolerance policies against fighting in schools playing too big of an effect.

Consider this: a bully (who likely doesn't care about his standing in school) targets someone who likely does care about their standing in school. The "good kid" will continue to endure the bully's attacks because he or she does not want to get in trouble. They deal with it until they snap, causing harm to themselves or others.

Administrators either need to get rid of the lazy zero tolerance policies on fighting and actually pay attention who is bullying who, or they need to just let kids fight it out themselves.

I got into a handful of scraps throughout middle school, junior high, and high school. Win or lose, the person who was antagonizing me left me alone. In fact, I'm friends with a handful of them.

Kids are smarter and can deal with problems better than adults give them credit for, sometimes.


I don't follow.

If the zero tolerance policy was being enforced, the bully would be sent away. The kid would have no need to snap, as they would not be pushed anymore.

If I understand you, and I may not be, its the lack of attention on the administrators, and not any policy, that is the real problem.

  • 12.17.2012 3:13 PM PDT

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Really, more people just need to start standing up for themselves instead of giving into it. That alone would prevent a lot of this unnecessary drama.

News flash, running away from your problems or looking for someone else to fix it won't always work. Be strong enough to deal with it yourself if you have to. If you wallow around in your own misery instead of figuring out how to deal with things, I will usually not feel any sympathy for you.

  • 12.17.2012 3:14 PM PDT


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

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Posted by: GeneralTso
If you do it in public, you are arrested right there and then, and will be charged with a crime.
Uhh...
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.


Why? I am genuinely curious as to why you guys think this.

As an adult, if I were to make public threats the way a bully does, I could and likely would be charged with a crime.

Why is it different when kids do it?
Constitutional right to a quick and speedy trial? Due process of law?

  • 12.17.2012 3:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: True Deception
Ending bullying...as if that'll happen. lol
Why can't it? Why should we accept that some people are harassed, and just take it that it happens? Nobody deserves that kind of treatment.
Ohhh...you're one of them.
Yes, I am. I don't think we have to simply accept that bad things happen. Let's fix things.

  • 12.17.2012 3:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Posted by: GeneralTso
If you do it in public, you are arrested right there and then, and will be charged with a crime.
Uhh...
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.


Why? I am genuinely curious as to why you guys think this.

As an adult, if I were to make public threats the way a bully does, I could and likely would be charged with a crime.

Why is it different when kids do it?
Constitutional right to a quick and speedy trial? Due process of law?


Again, I don't follow. How is this a violation of due process, or violating a speedy trial?

When I threaten you in public, I could be arrested and tried. This happens all the time. There is a juvenile justice system in place. We could easily add bullying as a criminal offense.

  • 12.17.2012 3:16 PM PDT
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  • 12.17.2012 3:17 PM PDT


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Posted by: GeneralTso
If you do it in public, you are arrested right there and then, and will be charged with a crime.
Uhh...
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.


Why? I am genuinely curious as to why you guys think this.

As an adult, if I were to make public threats the way a bully does, I could and likely would be charged with a crime.

Why is it different when kids do it?
Constitutional right to a quick and speedy trial? Due process of law?


Again, I don't follow. How is this a violation of due process, or violating a speedy trial?

When I threaten you in public, I could be arrested and tried. This happens all the time. There is a juvenile justice system in place. We could easily add bullying as a criminal offense.
Because a massive amount of new cases would be added to the everyday schedule?

  • 12.17.2012 3:17 PM PDT
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Not punish kids for self-defence in school.

  • 12.17.2012 3:18 PM PDT

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I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


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Bullying isn't that bad currently, but teachers need to have some kind of identification training if bullying is going too far to the point the child is suicidal.

  • 12.17.2012 3:18 PM PDT


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Posted by: GeneralTso
If you do it in public, you are arrested right there and then, and will be charged with a crime.
Uhh...
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal.


Why? I am genuinely curious as to why you guys think this.

As an adult, if I were to make public threats the way a bully does, I could and likely would be charged with a crime.

Why is it different when kids do it?
Constitutional right to a quick and speedy trial? Due process of law?


Again, I don't follow. How is this a violation of due process, or violating a speedy trial?

When I threaten you in public, I could be arrested and tried. This happens all the time. There is a juvenile justice system in place. We could easily add bullying as a criminal offense.
Yes, arrested and tried. I'm pretty sure the OP suggests just throwing offenders in jail without a trial.

  • 12.17.2012 3:19 PM PDT

Life?
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Posted by: True Deception
Really, more people just need to start standing up for themselves instead of giving into it. That alone would prevent a lot of this unnecessary drama.

News flash, running away from your problems or looking for someone else to fix it won't always work. Be strong enough to deal with it yourself if you have to. If you wallow around in your own misery instead of figuring out how to deal with things, I will usually not feel any sympathy for you.
the problem with this stance, is that just telling people to 'toughen up' won't make them do it.

you can say 'just ignore it' or 'get a thicker skin' but saying it won't magically make it happen and it won't magically give them the confidence they need to make it happen either. for many, the reason they don't do anything is a lack of confidence, and telling them to just 'get more' doesn't help at all.

  • 12.17.2012 3:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Garland
Not punish kids for self-defence in school.

This x 1000

the amount of times in primary school we were told to never hit back, even in self defence...

  • 12.17.2012 3:19 PM PDT

Studies show that men think about sex every 7 seconds. I do my best to eat hotdogs in under 6, just so things don't get weird.

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Posted by: Graver18

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX
Constitutional right to a quick and speedy trial? Due process of law?


Again, I don't follow. How is this a violation of due process, or violating a speedy trial?

When I threaten you in public, I could be arrested and tried. This happens all the time. There is a juvenile justice system in place. We could easily add bullying as a criminal offense.
Because a massive amount of new cases would be added to the everyday schedule?
You being serious?

That's pretty weak. The courts would adjust.

  • 12.17.2012 3:19 PM PDT
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Kill anyone who is caught bullying. That's the only way.

  • 12.17.2012 3:20 PM PDT

Studies show that men think about sex every 7 seconds. I do my best to eat hotdogs in under 6, just so things don't get weird.

Please allow me to introduce Myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith


Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Yes, arrested and tried. I'm pretty sure the OP suggests just throwing offenders in jail without a trial.
Nope, that was "Arrested and Charged."

Charged means tried.

  • 12.17.2012 3:20 PM PDT

"Life is constantly fleeting from your grasp even from the very day it's bestowed upon you, but the shadow of death is always there, waiting for its chance to take you away."

"Even though many may not think so, ignorance and innocence are one and the same. The only difference is that one sounds nicer."

"I once knew a man who spent his entire life contemplating where we go after our death....it's a shame he realized it a second too late to tell anyone."


Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: True Deception

Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: True Deception
Ending bullying...as if that'll happen. lol
Why can't it? Why should we accept that some people are harassed, and just take it that it happens? Nobody deserves that kind of treatment.
Ohhh...you're one of them.
Yes, I am. I don't think we have to simply accept that bad things happen. Let's fix things.
It's not about that, you dunce. It's about the fact that you act as though you're capable of stamping out a part of human nature. Fun fact, bullying isn't a new issue. For one, it's just gaining more publicity in recent years due to people who need to grow a thicker shell instead of giving up, and for the second point, people just need to learn to deal with these things on their own instead of always looking for someone else to take care of their issues.

  • 12.17.2012 3:21 PM PDT


Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: XxhargbeastxX

Yes, arrested and tried. I'm pretty sure the OP suggests just throwing offenders in jail without a trial.
Nope, that was "Arrested and Charged."

Charged means tried.
I interpreted it as charging with a sentence without trial.

  • 12.17.2012 3:23 PM PDT


Posted by: MadMax888
Better, more attentive parenting.
More action from school teachers/administration

  • 12.17.2012 3:25 PM PDT

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The apathetic force us to persevere, with their backwards priorities.

Children need confidence. Confidence will end this "problem".

  • 12.17.2012 3:26 PM PDT

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Making angry posts in the flood... .That will change the world!

  • 12.17.2012 3:31 PM PDT

Studies show that men think about sex every 7 seconds. I do my best to eat hotdogs in under 6, just so things don't get weird.

Please allow me to introduce Myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith


Posted by: BestSpartan117
Making angry posts in the flood... .That will change the world!
Actually, this isn't as bad an idea as you make it out to be.

We are an online community, and as such act like a support structure of sorts. That means whenever someone does this, the may be just turning to us for help.

  • 12.17.2012 3:33 PM PDT

People should stand up for themselves and others?

  • 12.17.2012 3:45 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

Just like "LIKING" the anty Kony facebook group did tothe poor african kids

Brilliant!

Kony never stood a chance
Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: BestSpartan117
Making angry posts in the flood... .That will change the world!
Actually, this isn't as bad an idea as you make it out to be.

We are an online community, and as such act like a support structure of sorts. That means whenever someone does this, the may be just turning to us for help.


[Edited on 12.17.2012 3:49 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 3:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: GeneralTso
Mine?

A Zero Tolerance policy on bullies. In both schools and in public. You bully in a school, you are instantly expelled. If you do it in public, you are arrested right there and then, and will be charged with a crime.

As for the criminal charges, bullying will be classified in Violent/Non-violent, and by the number of people involved. That way a group of boys who beat a kid up could end up sentenced to a lesser sentence than the girls who involved the entire school on facebook.

That's mine. What's yours?


Your idea is retarded

  • 12.17.2012 3:56 PM PDT

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