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Posted by: Yourself 332AGN

Posted by: crumpster212

Posted by: Yourself 332AGN

Posted by: crumpster212
Didnt Perry say that Vietnam vets were war criminals? Or am I thinking of someone else?
I think that was Kerry
YES, it was Kerry, thank you.
no problem, we need to keep our corrupt political failures... I MEAN leaders straight. <.< >.>
No, go ahead call them corrupt. They are back-stabbing liars. Or at least the vast majority of them are.

  • 12.17.2012 5:13 PM PDT


Posted by: TedToaster22
I love 'Murica.

Our number one export is freedom.

  • 12.17.2012 5:15 PM PDT

Halo 3 is where the morons of the universe congregates.

I am thinking of an old story. "Three Billy Goats Gruff" (hint the troll dies at the end)

Posted by: zarrowsmith
If you had an electron microscope, you still couldn't find the -blam!- I don't give.


Posted by: crumpster212

Posted by: Yourself 332AGN

Posted by: crumpster212

Posted by: Yourself 332AGN

Posted by: crumpster212
Didnt Perry say that Vietnam vets were war criminals? Or am I thinking of someone else?
I think that was Kerry
YES, it was Kerry, thank you.
no problem, we need to keep our corrupt political failures... I MEAN leaders straight. <.< >.>
No, go ahead call them corrupt. They are back-stabbing liars. Or at least the vast majority of them are.
I'm just warry of the lastest UN bill that allowed for Internet censoring, don't want to get blacklisted... PRAISE THE GOVERNMENT!

  • 12.17.2012 5:21 PM PDT

There once was an ugly barnacle. He was so ugly that everyone died.

The end.

SCFH

You Know what i love about America? Trick Question! I love everything about America!

Except Mass Shootings, politics, poverty, etc.

  • 12.17.2012 5:22 PM PDT

1. Half-Life 2
2. Mass Effect 3
3. Mass Effect 2
4. Tie between Halo 3 and CoD4
5. Medal of Honor or Spec Ops: The Line

"You can be larger than life. But you can't be larger than death."


Posted by: Golden Sandwich

Posted by: john5550
1. The only country that outdoes us in CO2 emissions is China. Fun facts: The oceans have risen a couple inches and as a result several places, including New York, have had more flooding issues lately. As a result of the ocean's temperatures rising hurricanes have gotten worse and contributed to Sandy.

2. We bomb and kill people's children. And we wonder why in the world our country isn't more popular.

3. Guantanamo Bay. Pretty much sums up our thoughts on human rights.

4. The US is the only country where someone can die without health care and we rank 50th worldwide with life expectancy.

We got -blam!- that needs sorting out.

Again, you point out generic issues that have been around forever and ignore the fact that we still do considerably better than most parts of the world in regards your fourth statement. Socialized healthcare is the dumbest idea economically because you'll degrade the entire system by draining resources. You get an influx of patients with the already scarce amount of doctors we already have and you end up with a shortage. To compensate, they'll probably import or lower the qualifications of healthcare professions, further more degrading the system to make sure the shortage is balanced out, then you get the raise in taxes, probably higher injury rates, and a huge waitlist for basic medical needs.

And you seriously think civilian causalities is avoidable in urban conflict? They know they'll hit a few civilians when you drop a scatter bomb, it's not like they want to. It's just a byproduct. War is war, get over it.

And right, we should allow suspected terrorist to have the same rights as American citizens. It's perfectly logical to give them the rights we grant our society when they hate our society. Gbay is necessary for intel and detention.
1. Socialized health care isn't the greatest option but this system sucks ass. Especially for people with chronic illnesses.
2. They aren't avoidable. But we're targetting their kids because they might be terrorists. We bomb people "just in case". It's disgusting.
3. Sure why not give them the rights we grant anyone else in custody in the US. If there's plenty of evidence against terrorists in court then they'll go to jail. By the way we've locked up hundreds of innocent people and tortured them there. Who wouldn't be surprised if they despised us. It isn't necessary since torture is pretty much useless and won't give you what a properly done interrogation can. We don't even really know how many innocent people are still being held in there. Considering how terrible a job we did I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the people there were innocent. If you offer rewards to poor tribes in the desert who burn -blam!- to stay alive it shouldn't very surprising if there are a lot of innocent people there.

  • 12.17.2012 5:23 PM PDT

Guantanamo bay generic issue lold.

  • 12.17.2012 5:24 PM PDT

hippies, hippies everywhere.

  • 12.17.2012 5:34 PM PDT

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Just because someone doesn't agree with America's current view of a subject or controversy doesn't mean they are anti-American

  • 12.17.2012 5:35 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.


Posted by: Golden Sandwich

1. Our system isn't perfect, but I'm just saying socializing it will make it worse.

The countries that rank above the US in healthcare would beg to differ.

  • 12.17.2012 5:36 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.


Posted by: Golden Sandwich
Unemployment before Obama took office was nearly 5%. He doubled it during his term and failed to drop it lower than when he took office. Try again. And like I said, unemployed and not looking for a job are two different things. Clearly the people who stopped looking wouldn't be included in the stats, which is why it dropped.
Because the President has complete control over the economy and unemployment, right? We were [and are] in a recession. Unemployment rises. There's not a whole lot you can do aside from trying to stop the bleeding.

  • 12.17.2012 5:38 PM PDT

1. Half-Life 2
2. Mass Effect 3
3. Mass Effect 2
4. Tie between Halo 3 and CoD4
5. Medal of Honor or Spec Ops: The Line

"You can be larger than life. But you can't be larger than death."


Posted by: Golden Sandwich

Posted by: john5550
1. Socialized health care isn't the greatest option but this system sucks ass. Especially for people with chronic illnesses.
2. They aren't avoidable. But we're targetting their kids because they might be terrorists. We bomb people "just in case". It's disgusting.
3. Sure why not give them the rights we grant anyone else in custody in the US. If there's plenty of evidence against terrorists in court then they'll go to jail. By the way we've locked up hundreds of innocent people and tortured them there. Who wouldn't be surprised if they despised us. It isn't necessary since torture is pretty much useless and won't give you what a properly done interrogation can. We don't even really know how many innocent people are still being held in there. Considering how terrible a job we did I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the people there were innocent. If you offer rewards to poor tribes in the desert who burn -blam!- to stay alive it shouldn't very surprising if there are a lot of innocent people there.

1. Our system isn't perfect, but I'm just saying socializing it will make it worse.

2. I'm skeptical of these sources. I find it hard to believe the military would authorize a war crime and not have people put on trail by the UN. The second link isn't really saying they purposely do it either, it's just they don't mind.

3. Also, torture is a very effective method for intel. You can't tell me that properly done interrogation simply for the sake of rights is more effective than waterboarding someone.
1. Obviously the system isn't perfect. The insurance company is on my ass for trying to get better. It's rather ironic.
2. How does that make it any better?
3. Not really. When my cousin holds my arm behind my back until I tell him where he put his cookies am I going to tell him the truth or blurt something out so he stops. If you break someone's mind then you can get anything you want. Also the fact that you're ignoring the constitution and many other things that say "torture isn't cool bro" definitely makes me think you haven't thought about this enough.

  • 12.17.2012 5:38 PM PDT

Please do not send me group invites.


Posted by: Golden Sandwich
3. Also, torture is a very effective method for intel.
It's actually one of the least reliable methods of gaining intelligence, but..sure.

  • 12.17.2012 5:43 PM PDT

Halo 3 is where the morons of the universe congregates.

I am thinking of an old story. "Three Billy Goats Gruff" (hint the troll dies at the end)

Posted by: zarrowsmith
If you had an electron microscope, you still couldn't find the -blam!- I don't give.


Posted by: MadMax888

Posted by: Golden Sandwich
Unemployment before Obama took office was nearly 5%. He doubled it during his term and failed to drop it lower than when he took office. Try again. And like I said, unemployed and not looking for a job are two different things. Clearly the people who stopped looking wouldn't be included in the stats, which is why it dropped.
Because the President has complete control over the economy and unemployment, right? We were [and are] in a recession. Unemployment rises. There's not a whole lot you can do aside from trying to stop the bleeding.
so what happened to the summer of recovery?

  • 12.17.2012 5:46 PM PDT

Well.

This thread escalated quickly.

  • 12.17.2012 5:51 PM PDT

It's not my fault, I was just trying to tie my shoe!

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Because they think they're cool for doing so.

I'm not saying America doesn't make mistakes, but we give so much foreign aid that it's a little overboard to hate us as much as some people do on here.

  • 12.17.2012 6:05 PM PDT

Do everyone a favor, get some intelligence, grow a set, bust a nut, and shut the fu­ck up.
Posted by: Anto91
you're retared for not knowing inside jokes
retard


Posted by: TedToaster22

Posted by: KGB Agent 099

OT: I love 'Murica.

Our number one export is freedom.


And guns baby.

  • 12.17.2012 6:07 PM PDT

Because they are edgy teenagers who think its cool to bash a top country in the world.

  • 12.17.2012 6:10 PM PDT

I can only please one person per day.

Today isn't your day.

Tomorrow isn't looking too good either.


Posted by: Golden Sandwich

Posted by: john5550
1. Socialized health care isn't the greatest option but this system sucks ass. Especially for people with chronic illnesses.
2. They aren't avoidable. But we're targetting their kids because they might be terrorists. We bomb people "just in case". It's disgusting.
3. Sure why not give them the rights we grant anyone else in custody in the US. If there's plenty of evidence against terrorists in court then they'll go to jail. By the way we've locked up hundreds of innocent people and tortured them there. Who wouldn't be surprised if they despised us. It isn't necessary since torture is pretty much useless and won't give you what a properly done interrogation can. We don't even really know how many innocent people are still being held in there. Considering how terrible a job we did I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the people there were innocent. If you offer rewards to poor tribes in the desert who burn -blam!- to stay alive it shouldn't very surprising if there are a lot of innocent people there.

1. Our system isn't perfect, but I'm just saying socializing it will make it worse.

2. I'm skeptical of these sources. I find it hard to believe the military would authorize a war crime and not have people put on trail by the UN. The second link isn't really saying they purposely do it either, it's just they don't mind.

3. Also, torture is a very effective method for intel. You can't tell me that properly done interrogation simply for the sake of rights is more effective than waterboarding someone.


Actually.....torture is an incredibly ineffective method of information gathering. Almost all of what is gained from torture is useless, false or random information of no value.

Fear, mind games and interrogations are much more effective. A well-trained psychologist with good cultural knowledge and experience in interrogation will get much more useful information out of a prisoner/suspect than the best torturer could hope to.

  • 12.17.2012 6:19 PM PDT

edit: im staying out of this

[Edited on 12.17.2012 6:27 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 6:26 PM PDT

America sucks balls.

  • 12.17.2012 6:27 PM PDT