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Subject: Glitches That Should Remain and Glitches That Should Leave
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There are certain glitches that need to be taken out, but I feel that some of them should stay.

-First Post and I tried to follow the rules so forgive me If I have messed up
-This is also assuming Halo 3 will be exactly like Halo 2
-No Tutorial of how to do the Glitch will be given as to not spread problems


Glitches That Should Be Removed:

A. Super bouncing
Reason: The ability to take a sniper in matchmaking and bounce practically eliminates any hope of another team, and because it is easy to master. It has become a widespread problem especially on ascension where in Slayer and Double team where the first team to super bounce has a near free win. There are other ways to the top of buildings that cannot usually be used in matchmaking

B. The Double Shot
Reason: This has the potential to become an ugly advantage nearly eliminating the fun rifle games. While this requires and INCREDIBLE amount of time to master, when it is mastered it is almost like carrying around a turret that can headshot.
Note -I respect anyone who has taken the time to master it, but it could become a horrible problem if it was used by more players.

C. Any form of Dummying
Reason: The ability of appearing in one place while being in another cannot be fair in any way. This also includes the ability to be seen holding certain weapons, while using others (such as holding two plasma pistols but being able to shoot a sniper rifle).

D. Any form of Auto Reload
Reason: Certain Glitches like the "Grenade Reload", close combat glitches (names withheld because they are the combinations themselves), ect. allow you to reload automatically while doing other things such as shooting. This is not a huge problem, it still is a glitch that can allow you to never have to manually reload.

E. Any form of Dual Nades
Reason: Dual Nade Glitches allow you to throw two grenades close to the time it usually allows for you to throw one. This can lead to a near instant kill using the two grenades you spawn with, but is not easily exploitable due to the fact of needing certain weapons and/or host abilities.

F. "Suicide shot" and "Instant Death"
Reason: The Suicide Shot allows individuals to kill themselves without penalty for any reason (primarily a better spawn). This could be an incredible problem considering how large some maps are, and a new ability to quickly transport near your team mates. The Instant Death Combination is an extension of the Suicide Shot that allows for a near instant kill. A Second Shot comes out of your original weapon after you have switched weapons, which is basically a dummying technique that is difficult but can prove useful.

Glitches that should Remain:

A. Melee cancel
Reason: Technically this is not a glitch, but plays into many other glitches. This should not be removed due to the fact that it provides players with the ability to Butterfly, and reach places normally not accessible. It can not be abused in matchmaking, because you cannot lunge at your teammates, only your enemy's and they will most likely not be willing to help.

B. The Quick Reload
Reason: The Quick Reload allows you to finish reloading about half a second before the average reload would take. This still plays into the game, because you have to wait until the weapon has ammo in it, and then can skip the rest of the animation. If you mess up, then you have to start all over again, which causes people to reload normally often.

C. The Reload Cancel
Reason: When reloading, sometimes it can be to your advantage to not finish reloading in favor of firing a couple more shots. This allows a more realistic ability to choose to stop reloading.

D. "The Double Melee" and the "Melee Fire"
Reason: The Double melee allows you the punch a split second faster than the average melee. It like the quick reload waits for the major objective, to be accomplished and skips the remaining animation allowing you to punch again. Also like the Quick reload, it has a risk and reward, if you cancel the animation too soon you will cancel the melee all together and be beat down before you realize you have messed up. This risk also applies to the melee fire which also requires a full clip making it a challenge of speed and having the necessary equipment to pull it off.

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[Edited on 7/5/2006]

  • 07.05.2006 12:11 PM PDT
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A glitch is a flaw or mistake in coding. Wanting flaws to remain from game to game just seems odd to me.

  • 07.05.2006 12:20 PM PDT
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It's going to be hard to consciously attempt to keep a flaw in the game's code from being expunged when making the transition to a new engine, so unless Bungie willingly turns any of these glitches into 'features', I doubt you'll be seeing them make a successful return.

  • 07.05.2006 12:22 PM PDT
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I think they should all disapear exept Melee Cancel and Reload Cancel. Halo 3 will have new glitches too, I hope not too much.

  • 07.05.2006 12:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheColdWolf
If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

Uh, if you want to get rid of superboucing and things of that nature, get rid of BxB and BxR. They're just as "cheap" as anything else. I'm sure Bungie will or have already addresed for their upcoming game.

  • 07.05.2006 12:37 PM PDT
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I know you tried to follow the rules, but this is probably going to get locked.

  • 07.05.2006 12:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Striker029
Uh, if you want to get rid of superboucing and things of that nature, get rid of BxB and BxR. They're just as "cheap" as anything else. I'm sure Bungie will or have already addresed for their upcoming game.


Well, if you look at Halo CE, it had a lot fewer bugs. They need to ditch this physics engine. Also not rushing the game this time would be nice.

  • 07.05.2006 12:46 PM PDT
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Glitches are glitches. They shouldn't remain in the game for that reason.

  • 07.05.2006 12:48 PM PDT

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The melee cancels are no different than any other glitch. I report people who use them against me. It's only fair.

  • 07.05.2006 12:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: g1g010
I think they should all disapear exept Melee Cancel and Reload Cancel.


i agree.

  • 07.05.2006 12:48 PM PDT

All of those will probably be fixed.

And this will most likely be locked.

  • 07.05.2006 12:52 PM PDT

Posted by: bayareaboss510
One game I'm not joking a little like 7 year old said and I quote " tell me what your dick looks like so I can imagine it in my head and beat off to it"


Posted by: TheColdWolf
If Team Swat became ranked, would there still be no shields?


Amazing!

Posted by: jmh9072
All of those will probably be fixed.

And this will most likely be locked.

Your emblem is butt-ugly.

  • 07.05.2006 12:53 PM PDT

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  • 07.05.2006 12:58 PM PDT
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To the kid who says he reports people for when they double-melee his...wooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

  • 07.05.2006 1:04 PM PDT
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Why would the thread be locked?
The Superbounce is much much much cheaper than the BXR and BXB, I understand why you would not like the other two, but at least you can shot someone before they get close to you, when they superbounce all they have to do is peak over the edge of a building snipe the opponent and take cover.

  • 07.05.2006 3:00 PM PDT
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You think it got what it takes to be..?.


God forbid you send me one of those I was checking for cool gamers and saw you messages too, I will scream to the top of my lungs and smash this damn screen/BlackBerry to pieces! You've been warned -_-

I think superbouncing should stay. Maybe Bungie should add mysteries in Halo 3 that deals with going outside of the level (Just like the switch gig). Maybe combine that with superbouncing.

  • 07.05.2006 3:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Atlause
Why would the thread be locked?
The Superbounce is much much much cheaper than the BXR and BXB, I understand why you would not like the other two, but at least you can shot someone before they get close to you, when they superbounce all they have to do is peak over the edge of a building snipe the opponent and take cover.

Because it regards the future use of glitches, which when used are technically cheating.

  • 07.05.2006 3:14 PM PDT
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You think it got what it takes to be..?.


God forbid you send me one of those I was checking for cool gamers and saw you messages too, I will scream to the top of my lungs and smash this damn screen/BlackBerry to pieces! You've been warned -_-

They can put new glitches in. The best glitch I know is the Extra Ally Glitch which can only be used in Outskirts. In Halo 1 they can be used in the Truth and Reconciliation level twice

I only wish that Halo 3's extra allies glitch would end you with mor allies (like 20 the least). For Halo 2, all that I can say is the extra ally glitch can be a glitch when it doesn't do much. Halo 1, their extra ally glitch actually ended me with 15 men.

[Edited on 7/6/2006]

  • 07.06.2006 6:48 AM PDT
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Well, IMO, no glitches from H2 should pop up in H3..however, Bungie should make the following into gameplay mechanics:

Double Shot
Auto Reload
Dual Nades
Melee Canceling

I'm sure I left some out, but as I said, there needs to be some deeper gameplay mechanics. The Halo series seems to be seriously lacking that.

  • 07.06.2006 7:54 AM PDT
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ALL CANCEL GLITCHES ARE CHEATING. PERIOD. This has always been my position, and it apparently is Bungie's official position as well. Many of these glitches allow you to bypass or ignore things that are put in for balance, like certain weapons having long reload times or slow melees.

Using one of these glitches is functionally no different than modding your player to have a rocket launcher with no reload time.

They all need to go. And if you get caught reloading, it's your own damn fault.

  • 07.06.2006 8:03 AM PDT
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  • 07.06.2006 10:07 AM PDT
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these glitches are for fun and thats about it most people use it for fun and the only real glitches used in matchmaking is superbounces and its pretty easy to kill them the only glitch that should be taken off is none because they make the game more intresting for experinced players that have no challenge left in the game and your not going to stop everyone from glitches your best way fight this is just not to do it.

  • 07.06.2006 10:16 AM PDT
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If I ever found anyone using any of these glitches, I will levae harrassment and cheating feedback.

  • 07.06.2006 10:21 AM PDT
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Cancel glitches became an integral part of "pro" Halo 1 play, and it really needs to go.l

  • 07.06.2006 10:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: HM Slayer
A glitch is a flaw or mistake in coding. Wanting flaws to remain from game to game just seems odd to me.


Yeah I really have no idea why you would want to keep errors in coding...

  • 07.06.2006 10:36 AM PDT

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