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Posted by: Elite Mouse
Stop buying Bose, they are bad and overpriced.

If you want the best, you buy Sennheiser or Grados.


They may be a bit overpriced but I still think Bose headphones are amazing

  • 12.17.2012 10:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
What's your budget?
Would you be willing to buy an amplifier?
What kind of music do you listen to?
Is isolation a must?
These are the most important questions. Here's an idea of which brands are good for what:

Grado - generally, bright, forward, aggressive, with great sense of immediacy/speed and energy, but not as spacious sounding as Senns or AKGs or Beyers. Easier to drive than the competition, but do benefit a good deal from amping, especially tube amps I think.

Alessandro - technically like Grado, but more relaxed and neutral.

Sennheiser - Generally balanced with some extra warmth. Smooth and relaxed sound compared to Grados with better sense of space and better imaging (depending on the models compared). More neutral. Some find them not as detailed as Grado's and veiled or lacking energy. Most of their high end cans need a great amp and source to shine and also balancing.

Denon - Bassy. Great soundstage and imaging for closed cans. Good detial accuracy. Bass is very deep but can be boomy with wrong source and/or amp. Mods apparently help a lot (i.e markl mod). Also need good amp and source.

Audio-Techinca - Their open models and some closed ones are bass light for some, but bass quality is generally good. Their closed cans can actually be quite bassy. Midrange is usually a bit forward or recessed depending on the model. Treble can also be forward or recessed. Something like a mix of Grados and Senns - not as aggressive as Grado, but not as laid back as Senn. Known for great imaging and soundstage. Generally easy to drive.

AKG - Known for great clarity. their full-sized open cans are also known for excellent soundstage and imaging. Some think their open cans are a bit lean on bass and forward on treble (i.e K701) Other think they neutral. Also known for realistic tonality. generally hard to drive and require a good amount of burn-in to open up.

Beyerdynamic - known for great treble. Some cans like DT770 are also known for huge bass which some think is overpowering and/or bloated. Are generally not easy to drive, but easier than Senn HD6** series. The sound is usually clear and clean and somewhat bright/enthusiastic. Generally more neutral than Audio-Technica, kinda like Senn, but with different flavour. Some think Beyers are more neutral and Senns sound too sweet, but that depends on which models you compare.

Ultrasone - Very controversial cans. Some think they are very neutral and revealing, but need a lot of juice and/or burn-in to reach their full potential. others think their basses are bloated or overpowering and treble is harsh/metallic and mids are recessed. They are generally acknowledged as having good soundstage for closed headphones though.

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Posted by: Elite Mouse
Stop buying Bose, they are bad and overpriced.

If you want the best, you buy Sennheiser or Grados.


They may be a bit overpriced but I still think Bose headphones are amazing
I find them sub-part at best. For $300, you could get a Beyerdynamic DT770 250 Ohm, Sennheiser HD598, Audio Technica AD900, or V-Moda M80, along with a FiiO E7, and still have some money left over.

[Edited on 12.17.2012 10:11 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 10:07 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
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I have a pair of Sennheiser earphones and I love them, great sound quality. I don't like headphones though, I dislike how the music sounds like it's from an external source rather than inside my head.

  • 12.17.2012 10:12 PM PDT

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I use SkullCandy Uprocks. The sound's good but it made your ears really sore.

  • 12.17.2012 10:16 PM PDT

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OP, you might want to check this out. It's a bit of a cookie-cutter link, but it will give you an idea of what you might like. From there, you either have to do your own research or tell us what you want.

  • 12.17.2012 10:17 PM PDT

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  • 12.17.2012 10:22 PM PDT

Stop arguing over imaginary -blam!-. May as well argue over Santa Claus. There will never be proof that there is/was a god - and before people start saying "HERP DERP PROVE THERE WASN'T ONE ROFLOLOL" well, you are the people who made it up in the first place so we know there isn't one
What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?


Posted by: PMC Fluffy
OP, you might want to check this out. It's a bit of a cookie-cutter link, but it will give you an idea of what you might like. From there, you either have to do your own research or tell us what you want.
He really doesn't do a good job of mentioning all of the different downfalls for most of those headphones.

[Edited on 12.17.2012 10:41 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 10:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: PMC Fluffy
Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
What's your budget?
Would you be willing to buy an amplifier?
What kind of music do you listen to?
Is isolation a must?
These are the most important questions. Here's an idea of which brands are good for what:

Grado - generally, bright, forward, aggressive, with great sense of immediacy/speed and energy, but not as spacious sounding as Senns or AKGs or Beyers. Easier to drive than the competition, but do benefit a good deal from amping, especially tube amps I think.

Alessandro - technically like Grado, but more relaxed and neutral.

Sennheiser - Generally balanced with some extra warmth. Smooth and relaxed sound compared to Grados with better sense of space and better imaging (depending on the models compared). More neutral. Some find them not as detailed as Grado's and veiled or lacking energy. Most of their high end cans need a great amp and source to shine and also balancing.

Denon - Bassy. Great soundstage and imaging for closed cans. Good detial accuracy. Bass is very deep but can be boomy with wrong source and/or amp. Mods apparently help a lot (i.e markl mod). Also need good amp and source.

Audio-Techinca - Their open models and some closed ones are bass light for some, but bass quality is generally good. Their closed cans can actually be quite bassy. Midrange is usually a bit forward or recessed depending on the model. Treble can also be forward or recessed. Something like a mix of Grados and Senns - not as aggressive as Grado, but not as laid back as Senn. Known for great imaging and soundstage. Generally easy to drive.

AKG - Known for great clarity. their full-sized open cans are also known for excellent soundstage and imaging. Some think their open cans are a bit lean on bass and forward on treble (i.e K701) Other think they neutral. Also known for realistic tonality. generally hard to drive and require a good amount of burn-in to open up.

Beyerdynamic - known for great treble. Some cans like DT770 are also known for huge bass which some think is overpowering and/or bloated. Are generally not easy to drive, but easier than Senn HD6** series. The sound is usually clear and clean and somewhat bright/enthusiastic. Generally more neutral than Audio-Technica, kinda like Senn, but with different flavour. Some think Beyers are more neutral and Senns sound too sweet, but that depends on which models you compare.

Ultrasone - Very controversial cans. Some think they are very neutral and revealing, but need a lot of juice and/or burn-in to reach their full potential. others think their basses are bloated or overpowering and treble is harsh/metallic and mids are recessed. They are generally acknowledged as having good soundstage for closed headphones though.

Posted by: Deadlights911
Posted by: Elite Mouse
Stop buying Bose, they are bad and overpriced.

If you want the best, you buy Sennheiser or Grados.


They may be a bit overpriced but I still think Bose headphones are amazing
I find them sub-part at best. For $300, you could get a Beyerdynamic DT770 250 Ohm, Sennheiser HD598, Audio Technica AD900, or V-Moda M80, along with a FiiO E7, and still have some money left over.


Wow, thank you for all the information!

  • 12.17.2012 10:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
They've been amazing and easily the best pair of headphones I have ever used.


Hmm... I see. You should get some of these.

  • 12.17.2012 10:42 PM PDT

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General Info:

- Plan on generally using these headphones at home. Not really in public.

- Noise cancellation is a must, though. It's noisy here.

- Budget is high; I have enough saved up to not worry too much about that.

- I like a clean sound that is very full. That's why I chose the Bose the first time, anyway.

- My music isn't very bassy; no need for huge drivers. Generally rock.



[Edited on 12.17.2012 10:44 PM PST]

  • 12.17.2012 10:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
They've been amazing and easily the best pair of headphones I have ever used.


Hmm... I see. You should get some of these.


Those are the same ones I already have.

I'm just wondering if anyone would recommend anything else over them.

  • 12.17.2012 10:44 PM PDT

Stop arguing over imaginary -blam!-. May as well argue over Santa Claus. There will never be proof that there is/was a god - and before people start saying "HERP DERP PROVE THERE WASN'T ONE ROFLOLOL" well, you are the people who made it up in the first place so we know there isn't one
What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
- Plan on generally using these headphones at home. Not really in public.

- Noise cancellation is a must, though. It's noisy here.
Headphones with noise cancellation sound horrid for their price.

Honestly, you're better off just buying from Bose again. Unless you would be okay with in-ear monitors, of course.

  • 12.18.2012 1:20 PM PDT
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I definitely believe every wildly inflated claim ITT.

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I have had sennheiser, technic, skullcandy, Astro and Sony headphones. The technics are easily the best quality I've got. But then again they were worth $450 when I got them. The sennheisers were fairly cheap at $150 and they were the most comfortable headphones and provided great sound. Never had Bose headphones but id love them

  • 12.18.2012 1:33 PM PDT

By the gods what are you doing here, well don't just stand there man make the tea! Make yourself useful and look at my Fileshare.

No beats by dre? where's your swag?

  • 12.18.2012 1:34 PM PDT

My suggestions would be:

1) Don't buy Skullcandy. They're overpriced, sound pretty bad and are ridiculously unreliable. (They're made out of very cheap plastic, literally held together by even cheaper glue - the cables (though improved over the last few years) aren't very reliable either and will die within a couple of months normal use)

2) Don't buy Beats. Though they sound decent, they're primarily a fashion item - they're manufactured with cheap metals and plastics that won't stand up to much use and their sound quality is on par with headphones available for over a hundred dollars less.

3) Don't buy Bose. Bose aren't anywhere near as bad as Skullcandy or Beats, but they're still not great. Their headphones are massively overpriced, and their sound quality isn't very good in comparison to similarly priced competitors.

Other than those, I agree with most others in this thread. Sennheiser make excellent headphones. Comfortable, reliable, fantastic sound quality and acceptable pricing. A rare combination!

  • 12.18.2012 1:41 PM PDT

Stop arguing over imaginary -blam!-. May as well argue over Santa Claus. There will never be proof that there is/was a god - and before people start saying "HERP DERP PROVE THERE WASN'T ONE ROFLOLOL" well, you are the people who made it up in the first place so we know there isn't one
What created the big bang then? A coalition of genetically modified TR-909s with extra distortion?


Posted by: Mike Huntt
I have had sennheiser, technic, skullcandy, Astro and Sony headphones. The technics are easily the best quality I've got. But then again they were worth $450 when I got them. The sennheisers were fairly cheap at $150 and they were the most comfortable headphones and provided great sound. Never had Bose headphones but id love them
I've never heard of technic before. Do you mean Audio Technica?

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