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Subject: A solution to the school shootings

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Posted by: ArchNinja64

Posted by: MadMax888
Arming teachers isn't going to stop shootings, it'll only result in fewer dead children and adults.

This is not a solution.


Nothing is going to stop shootings entirely. But arming teachers or at least having more security would certainly lower the amount of them.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent them from happening. In my mind, mass shootings, especially those that occur on a school campus, are one of the worst things that could happen. I don't think we should simply sit back and say "meh, these things happen." We should do everything in our power to keep innocent children and staff from dying.

Guns aren't the problem, since a majority of these shootings occur with legally acquired firearms. The problem is the accessibility to proper mental health care. People are either unwilling or unable to get the care they need.

  • 12.18.2012 9:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Garland
Posted by: MadMax888
Arming teachers isn't going to stop shootings, it'll only result in fewer dead children and adults.

This is not a solution.
Fewer deaths sounds like a great improvement until we can change the more fundamental problems that underly these shootings.
I would agree. Arming teachers would be a decent band-aid action.

Then again, "teachers are already overpaid..."

  • 12.18.2012 9:25 AM PDT

If we had armed teachers it would make me feel as though we had failed as a society and a country.

  • 12.18.2012 9:25 AM PDT

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Do the teachers have a choice in this scenario? Because I'm fairly certain that 0% of them go into the profession thinking that they may need to kill a person in order to do their job effectively.

  • 12.18.2012 9:26 AM PDT

Need to do something about people with mental health problems. It's way easier to get a gun then to get help for mental disorders.

  • 12.18.2012 9:27 AM PDT


Posted by: NinjaLord77
Need to do something about people with mental health problems. It's way easier to get a gun then to get help for mental disorders.


Exactly. But we also need to examine what is causing these mental disorders. What is it that is driving us crazy?

  • 12.18.2012 9:33 AM PDT
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The realist in me says this:

In no world are we going to create a situation where no one is going to get hurt or killed. Perhaps I'm being cold and callous and maybe that is because of the industry where I work, but I look at all things without taking emotion into account.

School shootings suck. But they are still rare. There are 100,000 public schools in this country.

What do you want to do? Put three security guards and two metal detectors in each one? Multiply $140,000 a year times 100,000 schools and see what numbers you come up with. And is that money spent necessarily going to prevent bad things happening? Probably not. Maybe they'll shoot up an after-school sporting event instead. So now we're throwing metal detectors outside the football stadium too.

Money doesn't grow on trees.

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  • 12.18.2012 9:38 AM PDT

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Arming the teachers is a great idea imo.

  • 12.18.2012 9:47 AM PDT
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Just ban ammunition.

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Posted by: nightspark
Just ban ammunition.

Implying it isn't incredibly easy to make your own in your garage.

  • 12.18.2012 9:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Im A Warrior
You got banned in the last thread, so you make a topic about the same thing?


huh?

  • 12.18.2012 9:51 AM PDT

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I don't think teachers should be asked to be the personal bodyguards of all of their students. They get paid nowhere near enough to be expected to pull a gun and create a standoff.

  • 12.18.2012 9:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: A Good Troll
The realist in me says this:

In no world are we going to create a situation where no one is going to get hurt or killed. Perhaps I'm being cold and callous and maybe that is because of the industry where I work, but I look at all things without taking emotion into account.

School shootings suck. But they are still rare. There are 100,000 public schools in this country.

What do you want to do? Put three security guards and two metal detectors in each one? Multiply $140,000 a year times 100,000 schools and see what numbers you come up with. And is that money spent necessarily going to prevent bad things happening? Probably not. Maybe they'll shoot up an after-school sporting event instead. So now we're throwing metal detectors outside the football stadium too.

Money doesn't grow on trees.
Nailed it. This is my biggest question. If we already struggle to provide supplies for teachers, how are we going to increase security?

[Edited on 12.18.2012 9:52 AM PST]

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