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Subject: Judge approves surgery on boy without mother's wishes.

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Neon Roberts had a tumour removed last year and his mother Sally was fighting legal action for him to have radiotherapy.

Doctors told the High Court the question had now become whether he had to have an "urgent" operation because some of the tumour remained

Neon's case was in the Family Division of the High Court because New Zealand-born Mrs Roberts, 37, was opposing action taken by a number of organisations which wanted him to have radiotherapy

At a hearing on 7 December, the court was told doctors recommended Neon had radiotherapy and said he could die if he did not receive the treatment.

At that hearing Mrs Roberts said she feared it could do long-term harm including causing brain damage and infertility.

She told the court she was not a "bonkers mother" and said she only wanted the best for her son.

On Tuesday, doctors told the court surgery was needed because an MRI scan revealed a residual tumour left from the boy's last operation.


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  • 12.18.2012 11:57 AM PDT

Good to hear the kid will undergo surgery, hopefully it's a success.

  • 12.18.2012 11:59 AM PDT

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The judge was right to allow the surgery.

  • 12.18.2012 12:00 PM PDT
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It should be considered child abuse if the mother would not let them operate to remove the tumor.

  • 12.18.2012 12:02 PM PDT

The mother was wrong here. There is a very low chance of infertility or brain damage happening from the therapy. He would have died if not for that judge ruling against her.

  • 12.18.2012 12:03 PM PDT

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So the judge gave the go ahead to save a child because the mother did not know what to do in time? I say good job.

  • 12.18.2012 12:07 PM PDT

What a freaking moron. Dying painfully from a tumour is fine but extremely small chances of side effects from a life saving op? -blam!- that.

  • 12.18.2012 12:09 PM PDT

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The judge did the right thing

  • 12.18.2012 12:11 PM PDT

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Oh Boy. This thread should bring out both the medical AND legal experts in the Flood.

  • 12.18.2012 12:13 PM PDT

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The judge did the right thing.

  • 12.18.2012 12:14 PM PDT
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This is the type of thing that can be a slippery slope IMO.

Better pack your snowshoes brahs.

  • 12.18.2012 12:15 PM PDT

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This is a case where the word of the expert who has received likely over a decade of education and experience is taken over that of a parent who doesn't know the first thing.

It won't matter what happens to the child down the road if he's dead.

Besides, I've several friends who have undergone radiation therapy, and my father as well. None of them have had any lasting effect, excluding being alive.


Posted by: A Good Troll
This is the type of thing that can be a slippery slope IMO.
Not really. There have been plenty of times where a court has ruled against the parents wishes, usually under the basis that the parent is endangering the child's life.

[Edited on 12.18.2012 12:17 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2012 12:15 PM PDT

I'm on the side of the mother, we should strike out the weak and the lame so only the strongest shall live and improve the Human race, natural selection style

  • 12.18.2012 12:18 PM PDT

Mother sounds like a dumbass to me, good in the judge for doing the smart thing.

  • 12.18.2012 12:22 PM PDT
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Parents get irrational and emotional during this sort of thing, so having a level headed judge who has no emotional attachment to the child is a good thing.

  • 12.18.2012 12:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie
Oh Boy. This thread should bring out both the medical AND legal experts in the Flood.
It's not a complicated issue, the doctors very clearly laid out the risks and consequences.

  • 12.18.2012 12:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cheeto666
Posted by: A Good Troll
This is the type of thing that can be a slippery slope IMO.
Not really. There have been plenty of times where a court has ruled against the parents wishes, usually under the basis that the parent is endangering the child's life.

Obviously that is the current case. The argument can be extended further than what is in current case law, hence the "slippery slope" argument.

What about cases that do not necessary immediately endanger the child's life? Vaccinations are going to be the first thing to pop into mind in this. There are going to be plenty of people that frown upon mandated vaccinations. Likewise, there are cases where businesses have mandated vaccinations among their adult employees. There are plenty of people who frown upon getting forced mandatory flu/other vaccinations by employers.

Which you can then bridge into discussion of adults as well. Who is to say that courts can't act on your behalf and in your own interest to save you? What if you don't want life-saving treatment? Can a judge mandate that you receive that treatment against your wishes?

What about in cases of cost? Can a court force you to incur medical expenses you simply can not afford?

That is the slope you have to tread carefully.

[Edited on 12.18.2012 12:29 PM PST]

  • 12.18.2012 12:28 PM PDT