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Subject: Assault Weapons ban to return to America?

War never decides who is right; only who is left.


Posted by: AcedannyK 7
Posted by: Opt1mu5Pr1m3 15
If you need to use an assault rifle for hunting your aim must suck.
Catering to freaking casuals.

Hahaha well played
OT: nay. An AWB is not a good thing

  • 12.18.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Dont see a problem with it. You dont need a automatic weapon to defend yourself

  • 12.18.2012 12:48 PM PDT

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Assualt weapons are not needed for defense IMO. If you are going to argue that they should under the second amendment rights, please realize in the 1700s we had no army, no police force, and guns fired one inaccurate shot and took a minute to reload.

There's a such think as overwelming force. hence why RPGs and all but 7 miniguns (7 were made before the law went into effect that banned thier use. these 7 guns, remain legal even today.) are illegal for citizen use. You want defense? Handgun will work. You want stopping power? Shotgun. Range or accuracy? Rifle. Assualt weapons are terrible at defending. They are designed for killing large groups as effeciently and quickly as possible. What is attacking you that would require you to use an assualt weapon over another type of gun? A horde of zombies?

Anyway, the issue I think is more of mental healthcare. It is really hard to get mental healthcare compared to Physical Healthcare in this country and a lot more expensive. And apparently Physical Healthcare is both of those (I'm not paying for my own healthcare yet, so I'm not sure it's costs. I do know that mental is more expensive, harder to get, and social stigmas around it I don't understand (It's seen in a negative light. Why? If you get injured, physical therapy is perfectly acceptable and a way to heal the body back into normal shape. Mental Therapy is the same but for the mind.))

  • 12.18.2012 12:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Yay ban assault weapons!

It'll surely stop the criminals from getting them!
I'll give you a theoretical situation.

You go crazy and you want to get an assault rifle, and they are banned. Where do you get one?

  • 12.18.2012 12:48 PM PDT

No u

I don't see the point. If someone wants to use kill someone and needs an assault rifle, they're going to procure one somehow and still use it.

Besides, the guys was using handguns...

  • 12.18.2012 12:49 PM PDT

"You are the last of your kind: bred for combat, built for war. You're the master of any weapon, pilot of any vehicle, and fear no enemy"

Casuals.

  • 12.18.2012 12:50 PM PDT

This
Posted by: A Good Troll
> Man kills kids with handguns
> Ban "assault weapons", a made up term for military-style rifles




Logical, amirite?

and this.
Posted by: SQWABYSQWAB
Handguns kill a helluva lot more people.

Blaming the wrong type of firearms for Americans obsession with shooting each other.

  • 12.18.2012 12:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Gruntzilla24

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Yay ban assault weapons!

It'll surely stop the criminals from getting them!
I'll give you a theoretical situation.

You go crazy and you want to get an assault rifle, and they are banned. Where do you get one?

I already have one...
They're everywhere.

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Posted by: ultratog1028
This completely ignores the point that handguns are what are used in the majority of crimes.

I'm not even going to bother showing how today's legal "assault rifles" are not functionally different in either killing ability or power from what most people consider regular rifles either, because if you haven't gotten that from these threads before, you aren't going to get it now.

  • 12.18.2012 12:50 PM PDT

We've been trying to reinstate the ban since 2004. Somehow I doubt it's going to work this time.

  • 12.18.2012 12:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Gruntzilla24

Posted by: DatDudeBV
Yay ban assault weapons!

It'll surely stop the criminals from getting them!
I'll give you a theoretical situation.

You go crazy and you want to get an assault rifle, and they are banned. Where do you get one?


I think people are under the impression that the black market is a place down the street where a friendly salesman will greet them with a smile.

  • 12.18.2012 12:53 PM PDT

War never decides who is right; only who is left.


Posted by: ultratog1028
Assualt weapons are not needed for defense IMO. If you are going to argue that they should under the second amendment rights, please realize in the 1700s we had no army, no police force, and guns fired one inaccurate shot and took a minute to reload.

There's a such think as overwelming force. hence why RPGs and all but 7 miniguns (7 were made before the law went into effect that banned thier use. these 7 guns, remain legal even today.) are illegal for citizen use. You want defense? Handgun will work. You want stopping power? Shotgun. Range or accuracy? Rifle. Assualt weapons are terrible at defending. They are designed for killing large groups as effeciently and quickly as possible. What is attacking you that would require you to use an assualt weapon over another type of gun? A horde of zombies?

The 2nd Amendment was adopted not to safeguard our right to shoot deer, or to have an effective weapon to stop burglars, or to make sure every American can own a really expensive paper destroyer (at the firing range). It was to ensure that no government could ever control the United States that the people didn't want. Citizens of the 18th century were allowed the same weapons as the military because, in this hypothetical scenario, that's who they would fighting against.
The amendment ensures we have the ability to not be controlled by a dictatorship ever again. And that's something that shouldn't be taken away.

  • 12.18.2012 12:56 PM PDT

RIP Logan ~B.B.

It sounds like a placebo to me. Assault rifles aren't often being used in these mass shootings. The ironic part is that those are usually the ones that jam up and fail when they are used. They are being banned because they don't matter. It's pretty much equal to doing nothing. They'll ban then to say they did something, existing guns will be grandfathered in, then the ban will get repealed.

It's seems a signal to me they aren't going to take any meaningful action to curb the flow of guns to crazies. Personally, I say ban any non-hunting firearms, or do nothing. I own guns, I have hunted all my life. I know that you never need an assault rifle or handgun to hunt. Some might choose those, but using them borders on irresponsible. Assault rifles and handguns use small caliber rounds which are more likely to severely would big game than bring them down cleanly. So even if people are using them, it's pretty inhumane.

Personally, I have no problem with limiting gun ownership to guns reasonable for hunting. It would save a lot of lives if gang members and mass murderers didn't have such highly highly effective weapons at their disposal. You can't fire hundreds of rounds form a hunting rifle or shotgun in a minute. If someone proposed actual gun control, I'd be all for it.

But, it just won't happen. People here are obsessed with guns. They all think they are going to need them to fight the Russian invaders some day. Keep em lying about the place, eventually an emotional teenager finds them and decides he's going to make the news that day. Status quo in America will be preserved.

  • 12.18.2012 1:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: A Good Troll

Posted by: ultratog1028
This completely ignores the point that handguns are what are used in the majority of crimes.

I'm not even going to bother showing how today's legal "assault rifles" are not functionally different in either killing ability or power from what most people consider regular rifles either, because if you haven't gotten that from these threads before, you aren't going to get it now.
I'm not against Handgun ownership. I'm not against most gun ownership.

The problem wasn't the gun, it was the wielder. Just like I don't blame the car or the alcohol in a drunk driving death. It was the driver who decided to make a poor choice. The solution here, since the shooter was mentally unstable, would have to be easier mental help for people.

The reason I disagree with Assualt weapons is because they are designed for offense. "Well so are all weapons." In my teaching, I've been taught weapons are only to be used as a last resort. Not to give you power, but to protect. A gun when used properly can disarm a hostile situation without being shot. The threat of power holds power.

Now a pistol is much more effective at defending then an assualt weapon is, unless there are more then 4 targets. Assualt weapons (in my eyes) are more adept at military combat and warfare, not stopping someone from robbing you.

Rifles are more for hunting in my eyes then self defense. If you need to take out a threat at that long of range, then you better be eating it, or it better have the ability to kill you if it were 5 feet closer.

Again, just my own opinions.

  • 12.18.2012 1:03 PM PDT

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