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Subject: Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII debut trailer
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Posted by: Lightning Yuna
Resident Evil, dont know is AC hate started with Revelations, and im sure others as well.

The hate on Resident Evil started, and is deserved, when it stopped trying to be a survival horror game and instead tried to be an action adventure game with zombies.

The hate on Revelations was well founded because the series was just treading water while adding more useless crap to an already overburdened inventory.

The hate on FF is deserved because it has abandoned what made the series great to focus on visual flash and flare.

  • 12.19.2012 10:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nephilim713
Also, Methew seems to be just posting what he has done millions of times. I really dont care for what he has to say since it will always be the same.

Because Nomura and co have seen fit to continue to take a massive dump on the series.

-blam!- everything but the goddam flash. Flash, flash, flash. Flashy clothing, flashy battles, flashy animations. Character depth? Who needs that? Believable story? Nope. Dialogue that doesn't sound like it was run through Babelfish?

VII was the downfall.
VII was the beginning of the end; it's good, but massively overrated. VIII was a pile of -blam!-. IX was good.

X...oh god. And the series just kept going downhill after that.

  • 12.19.2012 10:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lightning Yuna
You did not! I dont want to derail the thread. But you repeatedly told me that ME3 had terrible writing and the ending was the worst thing to come out of humans. So that is that.

Nope.

  • 12.19.2012 10:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lightning Yuna

Posted by: Nephilim713

Also, Methew seems to be just posting what he has done millions of times. I really dont care for what he has to say since it will always be the same.


Just to let you know, im still waiting on Versus XIII as well.


I gave up waiting last year. When it decides to show itself again, perhaps I will care.


Maybe I should stop too. But Square will not confirm its flat out cancellation. Instead they give us little tidbits that make me think theres a chance. Like the guy that said he had just left a presentation of the world earlier this year.

  • 12.19.2012 10:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Methew
Posted by: Nephilim713
Also, Methew seems to be just posting what he has done millions of times. I really dont care for what he has to say since it will always be the same.

Because Nomura and co have seen fit to continue to take a massive dump on the series.

-blam!- everything but the goddam flash. Flash, flash, flash. Flashy clothing, flashy battles, flashy animations. Character depth? Who needs that? Believable story? Nope. Dialogue that doesn't sound like it was run through Babelfish?

VII was the downfall.
VII was the beginning of the end; it's good, but massively overrated. VIII was a pile of -blam!-. IX was good.

X...oh god. And the series just kept going downhill after that.

The only thing they needed to do was to improve the combat system from turn based.

Why did they -blam!- on the franchise?

  • 12.19.2012 10:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lightning Yuna

Posted by: Nephilim713

Posted by: Lightning Yuna

Posted by: Nephilim713

Also, Methew seems to be just posting what he has done millions of times. I really dont care for what he has to say since it will always be the same.


Just to let you know, im still waiting on Versus XIII as well.


I gave up waiting last year. When it decides to show itself again, perhaps I will care.


Maybe I should stop too. But Square will not confirm its flat out cancellation. Instead they give us little tidbits that make me think theres a chance. Like the guy that said he had just left a presentation of the world earlier this year.


They have gave us -blam!- all in terms of information over the years about it. It is sad.

  • 12.19.2012 10:58 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

your opinion is overrated.
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Posted by: Nephilim713
Also, Methew seems to be just posting what he has done millions of times. I really dont care for what he has to say since it will always be the same.

Because Nomura and co have seen fit to continue to take a massive dump on the series.

-blam!- everything but the goddam flash. Flash, flash, flash. Flashy clothing, flashy battles, flashy animations. Character depth? Who needs that? Believable story? Nope. Dialogue that doesn't sound like it was run through Babelfish?

VII was the downfall.
VII was the beginning of the end; it's good, but massively overrated. VIII was a pile of -blam!-. IX was good.

X...oh god. And the series just kept going downhill after that.

  • 12.19.2012 11:09 PM PDT
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No point in putting something funny, clever or informative here. Most probably im going to get perma-banned anyway.


Posted by: Nephilim713

They have gave us -blam!- all in terms of information over the years about it. It is sad.


Well, sadly, I agree. Bastards. There still giving us Lightning's last game (No!!!) so I forgive them.

  • 12.19.2012 11:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lightning Yuna

Posted by: Nephilim713

They have gave us -blam!- all in terms of information over the years about it. It is sad.


Well, sadly, I agree. Bastards. There still giving us Lightning's last game (No!!!) so I forgive them.


I am guessing a new Versus trailer will be revealed in the January Fabula novala crystallis conference. I swear, I want to see actual character development. Make Stella F****** talk! I cant believe it is almost 7 years and she has not spoke ONCE. Yes, I welcome this last game because I for one am deep in the XIII story and Mythos.

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  • 12.19.2012 11:19 PM PDT
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No point in putting something funny, clever or informative here. Most probably im going to get perma-banned anyway.


Posted by: Nephilim713

Posted by: Lightning Yuna

Posted by: Nephilim713

They have gave us -blam!- all in terms of information over the years about it. It is sad.


Well, sadly, I agree. Bastards. There still giving us Lightning's last game (No!!!) so I forgive them.


I am guessing a new Versus trailer will be revealed in the January Fabula novala crystallis conference. I swear, I want to see actual character development. Make Stella F****** talk! I cant believe it is almost 7 years and she has not spoke ONCE. Yes, I welcome this last game because I for one am deep in the XIII story and Mythos.


You and I both. lol, Stella not speaking. I want her to say something too.

You are more informed than I am though. I had no idea of this conference, so thanks for telling me this. I missed the last Lightning conference thing, so I'll make sure I dont miss this one.

  • 12.19.2012 11:31 PM PDT

A competitive players main goal is to win.
A casuals main goal is to have fun regardless of whether that results in a win or loss.
It has nothing to do with individual skill or knowledge, it has to do with the reason you play.

Hopefully this is last time they make a sequel to that horrible game.

Bring back old FF games, you know, back when they were good.


Posted by: Methew
The only thing they needed to do was to improve the combat system from turn based.

Why did they -blam!- on the franchise?


No they didn't, Pokemon is still popular and I assume it still has turn based battle system.
FF was popular, then they decided to make the battle system base on changing clothes, tapping A/X or changing formations, all of that was crap compared to turn based battle system accompanied by Materia system or other similar ability system.

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  • 12.20.2012 12:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Metalignus
Hopefully this is last time they make a sequel to that horrible game.

Bring back old FF games, you know, back when they were good.



Not everyone has the same opinion as you fyi. Yes it is the last one in the XIII series, and after this will be Versus if they decide to give it a release date.

  • 12.20.2012 7:05 AM PDT

A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal.

And from FOX, two phantoms were born.

Not as cool as Raiden.

She looks like Milla Jovovich.

  • 12.20.2012 7:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kai Hiwatari
Not as cool as Raiden.



Raiden was too sensitive about soldiers seeing his member and he decides to fight with one hand and hold it with the other in the part where they take his clothes and gear. I do not know about you, but that is pretty stupid because you would be better off fighting for your life with two hands. This always made me laugh at Raiden.

Lightning is way cooler.

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  • 12.20.2012 7:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Why does Lightning sound incredibly bored, raspy and tired when she says everything?

  • 12.20.2012 8:21 AM PDT

Meh.

Think this will be the first Final Fantasy game I actually skip.

Didn't like 13. Didn't like the characters. Didn't like the story. Probably one of my least favorite Final Fantasy games, up there with 12. Didn't like the sequel either.

I haven't enjoyed a Final Fantasy game since 10 and 10-2. I'm still looking forward to versus though.

  • 12.20.2012 8:40 AM PDT
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FF is dead.

  • 12.20.2012 8:40 AM PDT

This looks bad and the series has sucked for years.

  • 12.20.2012 8:46 AM PDT

Since I've never played the previous ones I might really like this new one. Because I really can't compare it to anything.

  • 12.20.2012 8:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Why does Lightning sound incredibly bored, raspy and tired when she says everything?


You are saying Ali Hillis is boring?

  • 12.20.2012 8:53 AM PDT
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I've yet to finish the first; I really like the narrative, the world they crafted and the themes. It's very bright, exuberant and bubbly. Lightning's character is stringent but really deep and pensive, and the scenery is awe-inspiring, but what kills it for me is the gameplay and combat systems, they're very stagnant and dull. The exploration is very linear, narrow and unimaginative and the movements feel really awkward and circumscribed. Ali Hillis is the voice actress for Lightning, needless to say her voice evokes so many feelings. It's beautiful. I might try to get back into it, simply because Lightning is such a wonderful character. I'm crushing on her. lol lame.

  • 12.20.2012 8:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: Y3Y00
I've yet to finish the first; I really like the narrative, the world they crafted and the themes. It's very bright, exuberant and bubbly. Lightning's character is stringent but really deep and pensive, and the scenery is awe-inspiring, but what kills it for me is the gameplay and combat systems, they're very stagnant and dull. The exploration is very linear, narrow and unimaginative and the movements feel really awkward and circumscribed. Ali Hillis is the voice actress for Lightning, needless to say her voice evokes so many feelings. It's beautiful. I might try to get back into it, simply because Lightning is such a wonderful character. I'm crushing on her. lol lame.


Lightning has the best legs =p. Well the gameplay looks much more fun in this one. At least it will not be auto battle. Everything in xiii and xiii-2 was just computerized according to what paradigm you had. With one person it will be more challenging imo. I love the XIII mythos, and yes Ali hillis portrays Lightning perfectly. XIII is linear, XIII-2 is not, and from the looks of this it will be open world.

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  • 12.20.2012 9:27 AM PDT

Remember those times when we all had something better to be doing, but didn't do it? Those were good times. Gooood times

looks like I'm sitting this one out once again.

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  • 12.20.2012 9:51 AM PDT

As long as they tie up the story and resolve the issues left by FF XIII-2 I'm good.

  • 12.20.2012 9:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: Big Boy1229
As long as they tie up the story and resolve the issues left by FF XIII-2 I'm good.


Yep, this is a direct sequel. It better explain how Lightning gets to Novus, and how Hope knows that she got uncrystalized.

  • 12.20.2012 10:03 AM PDT

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