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Subject: What's wrong with Halo 4?

I keep seeing everyone bash on Halo 4, a game I have not played, nor plan to, I do however want to know why people don't like the game.

Don't just say, "Join in progress broke the game!" Why did it break the game?

I want to see if this hatred is well deserved, or just a result of nostalgia.

  • 12.19.2012 9:23 PM PDT

It's a god awful terribad game.

  • 12.19.2012 9:23 PM PDT

心の中に弱い風が吹いています。

*shrugs*
*keeps playing Halo 4*

  • 12.19.2012 9:23 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

Vehicles and customs are meh. Weapons are alright and fairly balanced. Multiplayer has some hitches, issues and direction is iffy.

You can actually kick ass with the AR+magnum.

[Edited on 12.19.2012 9:25 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2012 9:24 PM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.

Because it's not as good as Halo 3, which was the king of all video games.

  • 12.19.2012 9:24 PM PDT

Just like in Reach, too buch BS cluttered together in one game, deviating from what used to drive people to Halo in the first place.

  • 12.19.2012 9:25 PM PDT
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Ranked and Social Playlists are the only things (I believe) needed as change.

Halo 4 doesn't have them, so all the casual and competitive people are lumped up together, which is not always good for either kinds of people.

Other then that, it's a great game, and I enjoy playing it.

[Edited on 12.19.2012 9:28 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2012 9:27 PM PDT

meh. it wasn't actively bad, just underwhelming as hell. a few weeks down the line and i can't even really remember anything about the campaign, other than the kinda-boring-to-fight robots. the look and soundtrack of the game are just hit-and-miss, the maps aren't particularly memorable and the gameplay's just dull at points.

[Edited on 12.19.2012 9:30 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2012 9:28 PM PDT

Signatures are for little kids.


Posted by: Bryanesie
*shrugs*
*keeps playing Halo 4*

  • 12.19.2012 9:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Assassin 11D7
Because it's not as good as Halo 3, which was the king of all video games.

I would agree with you that Halo 3 was indeed amazing. I have put the more of my life into that game than any other.

But what sort of "BS" happens, why?

  • 12.19.2012 9:29 PM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.


Posted by: TW InKoGnIto

Posted by: Assassin 11D7
Because it's not as good as Halo 3, which was the king of all video games.

I would agree with you that Halo 3 was indeed amazing. I have put the more of my life into that game than any other.

But what sort of "BS" happens, why?

I was seeing if anyone didn't think that was sarcastic.

I'm not impressed.

  • 12.19.2012 9:31 PM PDT
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Sometimes, I dream about cheese.

* can't play Spartan Ops offline
* the sword still sucks (thought 343i would have learned from Halo Reach, sadly no)
* the 3 Forge Worlds are only 1/6 the size of Halo Reaches Forge World

  • 12.19.2012 9:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Assassin 11D7

I got Halo 3 when I was 13, which for me meant that the whole "video game magic" was in full force for me. Spending weekends with my friends playing the campaign, custom games, and match making are some of the fondest memories of my video gaming career.

Every game I've played since then has failed to inspire me the way Halo 3 did.

  • 12.19.2012 9:33 PM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.


Posted by: TW InKoGnIto

Posted by: Assassin 11D7

I got Halo 3 when I was 13, which for me meant that the whole "video game magic" was in full force for me. Spending weekends with my friends playing the campaign, custom games, and match making are some of the fondest memories of my video gaming career.

Every game I've played since then has failed to inspire me the way Halo 3 did.

I went through the same things, except I try my most not to be blinded by nostalgia.

Now, when I think back about playing Halo 3, I make sure to remember all the times I was pissed off as well as the good times.

  • 12.19.2012 9:35 PM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

Playlists are meh, among other things mentioned in this thread.

H3 had a great mix of things like maps, weapons, vehicles, the overall sandbox etc... It was put together well and was overall fun.

  • 12.19.2012 9:35 PM PDT

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crap campaign, and crap music. I could care less about the multiplayer. Also Spartan Ops was lame.

  • 12.19.2012 9:37 PM PDT

If I ever see anyone post in a thread "That's your opinion", I immediately lose all respect for them.

Also, if you're discussing a topic with me and you resort to name calling, pull "life checks", or just call anything you don't agree with retarded without giving legitimate reasons, don't expect me to take you serious in anyway what so ever.

Listen OP, don't listen to all these reasons that people will spout and try to make seem like they know what they are talking about. Blunt facts is people don't like it because it's not like Halo 3. Whether it be because no ranking system, no equipment, playlist are different, whatever.

I've yet to see 1 reason as to why people don't like Halo 4 that doesn't root back to "Halo 3 did it better/it's not like Halo 3." Hell I even say that myself a lot of the time.

  • 12.19.2012 9:43 PM PDT

There's no way to get back experiences you missed.
So start right now today and risk furiousness for bliss.

The cry babies are what's wrong with Halo 4

  • 12.19.2012 9:45 PM PDT

I've never played video games.

  • 12.19.2012 9:45 PM PDT

Posted by: ANGRYDAMIEN666
Listen OP, don't listen to all these reasons that people will spout and try to make seem like they know what they are talking about. Blunt facts is people don't like it because it's not like Halo 3.
Such nonsense.

Is it really that hard to fathom that some new features could be poorly implemented or straight up bad ideas? It's not an issue of "This wasn't in Halo 3" or "Halo 3 did it better", if an idea is bad, it's a bad idea. You are the one who has no idea what he is talking about.

[Edited on 12.19.2012 9:52 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2012 9:51 PM PDT
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-enemy AI: still damage sponges, still do high damage, still rarely move or seek cover, still can't change tactics if their bottomless clip spam isn't working on me, Elites rush more often, Knights camp, Elites can board from further away, Grunts and Jackals with needlers

-friendly AI: still nerfed range, spend too much time shooting at corpses, always have pathfinding (roaming aimlessly or driving into walls), take an eternity to push around, tend to phase out, making weapon swapping less reliable, still walk to get in vehicles, pathetically slow melee, rarely enough of them around (not to mention they don't follow you any further)

-Master Chief: low traction, low jump height, low shields, can't strafe -blam!-, takes forever to get in/out of vehicles, still helpless when boarded, takes forever to melee objects around

-vehicles: splatter inconsistency, Ghost and Hog flip easily and play like -blam!-, Wraith is a monster, Scorpion is super slow, Banshee is not fun to use at all

-weapons: projectiles are immensely fast on Legendary, machine gun should do more damage than the SAW, Railgun should be as powerful as the Gauss Hog turret, Needler is disgustingly bad, Rocket launcher's homing is useless, DMR is still spammable, BR is near useless, Covie scoped weapons have a hideous green screen)

-level design: disappearing weapons, holes in the ground, soft walls, enemies being spawned outside of the map, stuck Banshees, previous areas being closed off

Halo 4 is why Campaign and MP should never converge.

Halo 4 is trash. It's worse than Reach for giving me false hope.

[Edited on 12.19.2012 9:57 PM PST]

  • 12.19.2012 9:54 PM PDT

hmm

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Posted by: Bryanesie
*shrugs*
*keeps playing Halo 4*

  • 12.19.2012 10:02 PM PDT
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Its just boring.

  • 12.19.2012 10:26 PM PDT

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Well, the main enemies of the campaign are essentially bullet sponges, which basically makes completing the game on higher difficulties more about knowing where the spare light rifle (forerunner battle rifle) ammo is than anything else. The narrative is an awful mess, which is especially disappointing considering how much I like the plot. The multiplayer's pretty much got the same downfalls Halo's multiplayer always has.

Other than that, though, it's an alright game.

  • 12.19.2012 10:29 PM PDT
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The problem I have with it is that it's just more of the same. It's something we've already seen from the FPS genre, and that's a genre that definitely needs some innovation. I really hope that 343 will try to take a risk and do something new with Halo 5.

  • 12.19.2012 10:30 PM PDT

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