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Subject: Weapon Spawn System = broken (Halo 4)

Major props to my hommie Sheeef. He made Recon possible for me. Long time recovering emails and passwords. And it was his. lol.

Here's what I have found to be broken and what seems to be unbalanced in Halo 4.

Weapon spawn system is garbage.
Example 1: Valhalla/Rag. The laser spawn on middle hill. Why doesn't it ever respawn? Why do the vehicles spawn way WAY sooner than anything else? UNBALANCED!

Example 2: Adrift - sword spawn. The sword DOES respawn, but again, LONG TIME LATER and it doesn't even spawn in the same middle place as it does in the start.

This just doesn't make sense to me why 343i does this. Yes I know random weapon spawn reduces the hardcore heavy weapon campers from controlling them. If certain weapons don't respawn within a good time frame, then the game is strictly vehicle based. SPEAKING OF WHICH, most maps could deal without certain vehicles. "I have an idea! Let's put a tank, a banshee, AND A GAUSS HOG on ONE MAP!"
Point being, certain weapons don't respawn the way they should to.

Thought?
Will this be changed/updated in 2013?

/rant
>Sorry guys.
>Something from Halo 4 that has been annoying me lately.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 12:31 AM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 12:18 AM PDT
Subject: Weapon Spawn System = broken

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Halo 4 is broken in general.

  • 12.20.2012 12:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: AR IS4 NUBS
Yes I know random weapon spawn reduces the hardcore heavy weapon campers from controlling them.
Not when you can spawn them in front of you with a click of the d-pad.

  • 12.20.2012 12:20 AM PDT

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Halol 4 will always cater to filthy casuals.

  • 12.20.2012 12:21 AM PDT

Quote from Confucius

By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest.

I don't know 343 to well but probably not.

Least they could do is add a classic playlist with no added features such as insta respawn or random weapon spawns

  • 12.20.2012 12:22 AM PDT
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I think just spawning everyone with Incineration Cannons and Binary Rifles would even up things nicely.

  • 12.20.2012 12:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: omg a bannana
Halo 4 is broken in general.
Lol well duh.

Posted by: damad3
I think just spawning everyone with Incineration Cannons and Binary Rifles would even up things nicely.
DUDE! I'd so play that gametype!

  • 12.20.2012 12:26 AM PDT

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Yeah the weapon spawn systems are terrible. I still like the game though.

  • 12.20.2012 12:28 AM PDT

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I think the bigger problem is ordinance, i don't know if my enemy is going to start glowing blue or start spewing forerunner rockets.

  • 12.20.2012 12:30 AM PDT

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=39477223

It leads to potential glut of power weapons as well as a stacking of certain ones. -blam!-s with game balance.

  • 12.20.2012 12:34 AM PDT

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If this is any help, weapon always spawn 2 minutes after one an other, and grenades always respawn 3 minutes after being picked up. Still random weapon though.

  • 12.20.2012 12:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: demonhunter191
Halol 4 will always cater to filthy casuals.

  • 12.20.2012 12:38 AM PDT
Subject: Weapon Spawn System = broken (Halo 4)

Pootis

What's wrong with vehicle combat? Personally, I love how most of the maps have vehicles in them, vehicles are the best part about Halo for me.

  • 12.20.2012 12:47 AM PDT

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Um. They're not broken. The weapons that spawn at the very start of the game aren't supposed to resupply.

The game spawns initial ordnance (i.e. Laser on Valhalla, Sword on Adrift, Scattershot on Haven), and then at semi-random intervals, the game triggers one of the many random ordnance items to spawn. If you look in Forge you'll see loads of random ordnance pods scattered around. If you see a Binary Rifle or Incinerator on Haven, that will have come from a random ordnance (although in Slayer it could have come from personal ordnance too).

It's stupid as -blam!- in my opinion and I much prefer the old, non-random system, but it's not broken. It "works by design".

  • 12.20.2012 12:55 AM PDT


Posted by: ash55
Um. They're not broken. The weapons that spawn at the very start of the game aren't supposed to resupply.

The game spawns initial ordnance (i.e. Laser on Valhalla, Sword on Adrift, Scattershot on Haven), and then at semi-random intervals, the game triggers one of the many random ordnance items to spawn. If you look in Forge you'll see loads of random ordnance pods scattered around. If you see a Binary Rifle or Incinerator on Haven, that will have come from a random ordnance (although in Slayer it could have come from personal ordnance too).

It's stupid as -blam!- in my opinion and I much prefer the old, non-random system, but it's not broken. It "works by design".

*sigh*

I remember how everyone in the game defended the rocket launcher spawn.

  • 12.20.2012 12:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: ash55
It "works by design".
Yah, then the design is flawed. >;)

  • 12.20.2012 1:02 AM PDT

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I would just like it if there were regular weapon spawns so I could pick up ammo. It becomes increasingly frustrating when I run out ammo and there is nothing for me to pick up.

  • 12.20.2012 1:29 AM PDT
Subject: Weapon Spawn System = broken

hmm

I just want DMR/BR ammo to be spread around all maps. My killing spree's are often ended due to lack of ammo.

  • 12.20.2012 1:36 AM PDT

Posted by: FlankEmOut
I just want DMR/BR ammo to be spread around all maps. My killing spree's are often ended due to lack of ammo.

You can use the extra ammo thing.

  • 12.20.2012 1:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dreadnough7
Posted by: FlankEmOut
I just want DMR/BR ammo to be spread around all maps. My killing spree's are often ended due to lack of ammo.

You can use the extra ammo thing.
bleh, we shouldn't have to.

  • 12.20.2012 2:00 AM PDT
Subject: Weapon Spawn System = broken (Halo 4)
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The general lack of weapons on map, the lack of regular and predictable power-weapon spawns and the ridiculous speed with which weapons despawn is what makes H4 pretty damn rubbish compared to H3 IMO. Still miles better than lolReach though.

I also agree with what FlankEm said. I've had CTF games where I've found myself wanting to respawn, despite being close to a Riot/Rampage, just so I can have more ammo for the weapon I want to use. Terrible game design.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 2:13 AM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 2:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: Traffic Cones
I don't know 343 to well but probably not.

Least they could do is add a classic playlist with no added features such as insta respawn or random weapon spawns

This is exactly what I want.
With weapon spawns on map, loadouts are ehhhh.

  • 12.20.2012 2:54 AM PDT

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Haven: You have some map weapons that spawn inside the floor. Which means you can't pick them up.

  • 12.20.2012 3:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: BerzerkCommando
Haven: You have some map weapons that spawn inside the floor. Which means you can't pick them up.


That was fxed as far as i know, but then again i haven't played for a while so the issue might be back.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 3:26 AM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 3:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: BerzerkCommando
Haven: You have some map weapons that spawn inside the floor. Which means you can't pick them up.


That was fxed as far as i know, but then again i haven't played for a while so the issue might be back.

Same here. The last time I played that game was a little over a week ago.

  • 12.20.2012 3:34 AM PDT

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