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Subject: Elites may be our alies?!?!?!?!
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I am saying this because in the update last week, they said that he was fighting against grunts and an enemy bigger than them, which made me think that since elites usually fight with grunts, they should be together, so that means elites are on our side, or they fight with a different allie like hunters.

  • 07.05.2006 3:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Night_Hawk521
I am saying this because in the update last week, they said that he was fighting against grunts and an enemy bigger than them, which made me think that since elites usually fight with grunts, they should be together, so that means elites are on our side, or they fight with a different allie like hunters.


ok thanks....

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Wait, aren't they our allies in halo 2??????

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If Elites "may be our alies", then why is Frankie supposedly fighting "Elites"?

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They were allies with sargeant Johnson and Miranda Keyes when they had to stop tartaraus

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So they were allies, so why wouldnt they be. Some elites do not know about what happened so in the begining they might attack MC.

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the elites and the prophets broke ties in H2

the prophets ordered a genocide against them

so they arent on earth. they are still at HC/ 05, battling it out with the rest of the covie that arent on their side

just cuz two humans worked with the arbie doesnt make it an alliance. im sure theres still a lot of adversity between them

MC is fighting grunts. grunts are usually led by elites. should there be any reason there are elites on earth, they would be fighting the chief

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An alliance is co-operation between two or more people or things so arbitor working with two humans is an alliance by defenition.

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Elites can be at Earth. They still have their cruisers over High Charity, unless the Brutes destroyed them all. Hopefully they still have numbers and a reasonable portion of the fleet.

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Posted by: l4sl XeLo
An alliance is co-operation between two or more people or things so arbitor working with two humans is an alliance by defenition.


tell that to the elites that dont even know who those two humans are??

there were plenty of slaves who fought for the south b/c they didnt know better. does this mean there was an alliance between slaves and the people who "owned" them?

there were Germans who fought alongside the U.S. because they were prisoners or maybe didnt agree with Hitler. Does that means there was an alliance between Germany and the U.S. in WW II??

just playing devills advocate :-)

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
the elites and the prophets broke ties in H2

the prophets ordered a genocide against them

so they arent on earth. they are still at HC/ 05, battling it out with the rest of the covie that arent on their side

just cuz two humans worked with the arbie doesnt make it an alliance. im sure theres still a lot of adversity between them

MC is fighting grunts. grunts are usually led by elites. should there be any reason there are elites on earth, they would be fighting the chief

Now who said he was playing as the MC when he was fighting the Grunts?

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To say the only reason elites would be on earth is to fight mc isnt a very well thought out idea.. since the arbiter was about to be told where the ark is, and he demonstrated hes not too keen on the extinction of all life including his own race by stopping tartarus, Id imagine hed rather want to make sure the ark doesnt go off. Elites, and he in particular, dont strike me as the sort to sit back and count on humanity being able to stop the prophets. That being said I think that if the elites dont work with humanity, everyones going to die because things are looking ugly enough without the elites comming in and making everything a 3 way free for all, such fights end up quite ugly for all those involved, and only the prophets forces will have the numbers to soak up the deaths that will cause and keep going. On a final note about there not being any elites near earth.. there might be, there were likely elites on most if not all the covenant ships, and for all we know there was still pockets of resistance on some of those that came to earth, elites holding out on the ship but not in command of it to stop it from comming. Its quite possible that MC will encounter one such group on the forerunner ship hes on and who knows, might even work with him since there wont be marines onboard to form your support squad, you might get elites instead. Just a few ideas I figured id toss out

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ok.........why would the elites suddenly stop being wiped out and take a trip to earth??

  • 07.05.2006 4:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: Reshalra
To say the only reason elites would be on earth is to fight mc isnt a very well thought out idea.. since the arbiter was about to be told where the ark is, and he demonstrated hes not too keen on the extinction of all life including his own race by stopping tartarus, Id imagine hed rather want to make sure the ark doesnt go off. Elites, and he in particular, dont strike me as the sort to sit back and count on humanity being able to stop the prophets. That being said I think that if the elites dont work with humanity, everyones going to die because things are looking ugly enough without the elites comming in and making everything a 3 way free for all, such fights end up quite ugly for all those involved, and only the prophets forces will have the numbers to soak up the deaths that will cause and keep going. On a final note about there not being any elites near earth.. there might be, there were likely elites on most if not all the covenant ships, and for all we know there was still pockets of resistance on some of those that came to earth, elites holding out on the ship but not in command of it to stop it from comming. Its quite possible that MC will encounter one such group on the forerunner ship hes on and who knows, might even work with him since there wont be marines onboard to form your support squad, you might get elites instead. Just a few ideas I figured id toss out

Ok, everything he said was true except one thing. It wouldn't be a 3 way free for all, it would be a 4 way free for all. I guarentee the flood will be in Halo 3, knowing that they would be screwed to attempt to enter the war like this, they are gonna take sides with whoever's willing, which is pretty much only the humans, since the prophets ordered a genocide on them, and the flood don't seem to be into the whole diplomacy thing.

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When you get a view of Earth, you see multiple places blowing up, so Elites might be in one level, but not in 10 other ones.

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why are the elites on earth again??

last time i checked, they were being.........um..........wiped out???

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
why are the elites on earth again??

last time i checked, they were being.........um..........wiped out???

Hey, would you rather be picked off one by one, or stand together?

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Posted by: GodsGunman
Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
why are the elites on earth again??

last time i checked, they were being.........um..........wiped out???

Hey, would you rather be picked off one by one, or stand together?


...........stand together?

so........no elites on earth cuz they have to deal with a genocide right??

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
why are the elites on earth again??

last time i checked, they were being.........um..........wiped out???


As i mentioned above its quite likely there were elites on most if not every ship in the covenant fleet, just because they hadnt seized control of a ship to keep it from comming to earth or to fire on the others with doesnt mean there isnt a group of them holed up in some section of the ships, fighting off the brutes and their allies. Not alot of time has passed since there betrayl, for all of them to be dead would be quite a feat to have pulled off so quickly. Besides, prepping for combat against earths defenses and then engaging whatever the humans have would distract the crews of the ships, making it easier for the elites to fight off their attackers, thus, some elites in close proximity to earth

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Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
Posted by: GodsGunman
Posted by: ICEMAN ASSASS1N
why are the elites on earth again??

last time i checked, they were being.........um..........wiped out???

Hey, would you rather be picked off one by one, or stand together?


...........stand together?

so........no elites on earth cuz they have to deal with a genocide right??

No, I meant the marines and elites stand together and fight on Earth as a final stand, because if they don't help the marines to take back Earth, they're dead no matter what they do elsewhere when Truth sets off the Ark, and they know it

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we will most likly fight the elites still and if anythin happens so that we dont it will be near the end of the game

it looks like there will be a civil war with the cov bc the elites were pushed aside and the brutes were givin power but that was only on the cov space city thing i dont ever remember brutes on earth so my guess is that the elites on earth know little if nothing at all about the brutes taking power so there for have no reason to rebel

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Do you know what a genocide is? Because if you do, you know that what you just said is completely false because that is what truth ordered the brutes to do. And just incase the definition slips your mind, here it is: gen·o·cide Pronunciation (jn-sd)
n.
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.

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Posted by: Seven7h
If Elites "may be our alies", then why is Frankie supposedly fighting "Elites"?


in halo 2 there were 2 kinda of elites
1) elites loyal to the prophets
2) rebel elites fighting agianst teh prophets rebeling against the great journey

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Posted by: GodsGunman
Do you know what a genocide is? Because if you do, you know that what you just said is completely false because that is what truth ordered the brutes to do. And just incase the definition slips your mind, here it is: gen·o·cide Pronunciation (jn-sd)
n.
The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.


how did i use it incorrectly? in fact, genocide is the best way to describe the elites situation. it was planned, and they are being exterminated. i wont use a word that i dont know the definition of.

and to the whole "elites in the ships" i doubt that. those are fresh ships. if there was a WAR going on inside, i doubt they would be casually flying along

there are no elites on earth, and i doubt there will be. unless they survive the genocide, i doubt we'll many of em on earth. and if they are on earth, i doubt they will side with the humans. they would do their own thing to get back at truth.

that is, if humanity even has an army left

  • 07.05.2006 5:47 PM PDT