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Subject: Marine held in a mexican prison is still there.
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Posted by: Yuke
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Totally...

Oh man, linking tourist destinations that are only kept that way due heavy investment by American, Canadian, and European businesses who want to sell timeshares and vacation packages.

Go take a look at the real Mexico. It's essentially a "third world country" and on the verge of being declared a failed state.
Real Mexico? I've lived in Mexico for most of my life and I have no idea what you are talking about. You have much to learn.


"Hurdur it doesnt happen in my area so i doesnt happen at all"

And people call Americans ignorant. You don't even know whats going on in the country you currently reside in.

  • 12.20.2012 12:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Verachi
Posted by: abelsinh

They don't deserve any special treatment for being americans, or being soldiers or whatever.

But he is receiving special treatment. Do you guys always chain your inmates to their bed?
You consider being chained to a bed special treatment?

  • 12.20.2012 12:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mastergee
Why was he stupid enough to go in there with a gun?


American.

  • 12.20.2012 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Verachi
Posted by: abelsinh

They don't deserve any special treatment for being americans, or being soldiers or whatever.

But he is receiving special treatment. Do you guys always chain your inmates to their bed?
You consider being chained to a bed special treatment?

Special treatment doesn't always mean its a good treatment. In a way he is kind of lucky to be chained up to his bed, that's if other inmates can't go in that room. If he was out with everybody else he'd be killed by now.

  • 12.20.2012 12:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Metalignus

Posted by: Mastergee
Why was he stupid enough to go in there with a gun?


American.
I meet your bad tasting stereotypical joke with a blasé logical reiteration:
- He wasn't heading to Mexico, he was apprently on his way to Costa Rica for vacation.

- The rifle was cleared by US Border Patrol Agents as acceptable under Mexican law with proper forms.

- The forms weren't accepted. Imprisoned.

Relatively, the same exact thing can happen if you have a tiny pocket knife. You just bring this little guy to the border patrol and they give you a form telling you to fill it out and hand it to the Mexican Authority on the other side. Except when you hand him the form he imprisons you for months in a system that should take weeks at most, sets up a court date to try you for either innocent or guilty, and not even the judge shows up while the Mexican Government's excuse is "Well, we set one up."

That's kind of like airport security telling you it's okay to go through, you then go through, and then get tackled and arrested by airport security. It's not a matter of stupidity or nationality as you so arrogantly put it, it is a matter of trusting the man with more authority than you in a situation you haven't enough experience in to make an informed decision.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 12:57 PM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 12:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Verachi
Posted by: x BIG x CAT x
Posted by: Verachi
Posted by: abelsinh

They don't deserve any special treatment for being americans, or being soldiers or whatever.

But he is receiving special treatment. Do you guys always chain your inmates to their bed?
You consider being chained to a bed special treatment?

Special treatment doesn't always mean its a good treatment. In a way he is kind of lucky to be chained up to his bed, that's if other inmates can't go in that room. If he was out with everybody else he'd be killed by now.
If you've read my post on the previous page he was chained to his bed because he had extensive military training in the US Marine Corps. He's since been, to our knowledge, unshackled. However he was moved, as I believe you know, to a safer area of the prison upon the USA's request. He is in good health.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 1:00 PM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 12:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: abelsinh

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Because he was in Mexico carrying that gun, not in the U.S.[/quote]

So? we've saved a bunch of reporters in North Korea by sending a former president. You're telling me that we cant do the same now?


Yes.

They broke the law in Mexico.
You dirty Mexicans.

I hope everybody realizes this isn't justice.

  • 12.20.2012 1:00 PM PDT

Create a petition and spread the word

If it gets 25,000 signatures the white house MUST address it no matter how stupid it is. Even if you ask them to build a death star, which 4chan did successfully.

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  • 12.20.2012 1:12 PM PDT

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  • 12.20.2012 1:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Rainbow A Dash
^ I do not believe we can link to petitions in the public forums of this site. Heads up bud.


The mods may do what they wish. But they are only killing a man.

  • 12.20.2012 1:16 PM PDT

I am the God Emprah of Mankind.

Deal with it.

Why was the other Marine let go? If they let one go you would think they would let both.

  • 12.20.2012 1:21 PM PDT

lol

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Posted by: Rainbow A Dash
^ I do not believe we can link to petitions in the public forums of this site. Heads up bud.


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  • 12.20.2012 1:22 PM PDT
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All that is needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Special Operations will get him out.


They did it in Panama and they wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

  • 12.20.2012 1:26 PM PDT

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I'm not sure why he should be let go just because he's American.

  • 12.20.2012 1:27 PM PDT

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^ I do not believe we can link to petitions in the public forums of this site. Heads up bud.


The mods may do what they wish. But they are only killing a man.
Under that logic, so are the 7 billion other people who don't sign or advocate the petition. Somehow I doubt the lack of signatures from the half-dozen users on a gaming community forum (who will actually bother to sign) will carry much weight with the implied politically uninterested US political system; to take action against a likewise implied politically corrupt judicial system that, albeit maybe not under just circumstance, has taken exceptionally good care of a prisoner, when in comparison to the other prisoners, thusfar.

If you feel anywhere near strongly about the "killing of a man" then why is it not you starting the petition? Why is it not you spreading it through means allowed like Facebook, Twitter, Tumbler, YouTube, and other equally [petition] allowed websites? I mean it is all for the life of a man right?

  • 12.20.2012 1:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Assassin 11D7
Why was the other Marine let go? If they let one go you would think they would let both.
As far as I know the other one was not a Marine, just a friend. From the looks of it it seems the Mexican authorities find more value in the head of an American that Americans fight so strongly to support... a military service member.

  • 12.20.2012 1:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: abelsinh

Posted by: BuzzKill9009

Because he was in Mexico carrying that gun, not in the U.S.[/quote]

So? we've saved a bunch of reporters in North Korea by sending a former president. You're telling me that we cant do the same now?


Yes.

They broke the law in Mexico.
You dirty Mexicans.

I hope everybody realizes this isn't justice.
In my opinion, exactly. If it was indeed about justice and the punishment for breaking a law he would have been tried when the trial was set, not the subject of monetary extortion.

  • 12.20.2012 1:33 PM PDT

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Nice to see a change every once in a while.

  • 12.20.2012 1:42 PM PDT
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After reading the first few pages, it seemed like a lot of people were misinformed.

First off, he was only crossing through Mexico to get to Costa Rica for vacation and he brought the gun to go hunting.

Next, he was arrested because the gun is for military use only. However, the gun is not on the list of restricted weaponry.

  • 12.20.2012 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elven Warrior95
why did they go to Mexico? That place is disgusting.
Your face is disgusting. You should really get that checked out.

  • 12.20.2012 2:13 PM PDT

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His trial was unjust and maybe even corrupt. He has done nothing truly wrong. The gun was unloaded, and it was an antique. He just got back from Iraq, and is suffering from PDST.

Now he is finally home, and wants to take a simple trip to Mexico to surf and get his mind off things. He asked the U.S border patrol if he was allowed to bring it with him. They took it, checked it, and measured it and gave it back saying that he would have to fill out some kind of form, which he does.

When he's in Mexico, he is stopped by officials who ask to see his papers. He gives them the papers and the next thing you know, his friend and he are arrested. His friend is released for not owning the gun, but he is kept in jail for 4 months in one of the most dangerous parts of Mexico.

Many of his his inmates are drug dealers from the Cartel. They constantly abuse him and give death threats. He was moved to a private cell, but now they feel the need to cuff his ankles to the bed.

They sent him to court unexpectedly while his lawyer was unavailable. The officials tried to have the court rushed and get him guilty. His parents are worried and stressed. It is likely he will still not be able to be home for the holidays.

And for what? 15 years in prison possible for simple unloaded shotgun that was an inch too short? All he did was bring a family heirloom to Mexico on a fun/stress relieving trip and he is locked up in miserable conditions with a corrupt court for breaking a law he didn't know about and was told it was ok by officials.

And they're holding him for ransom. If he breaks a law, fine, but if they're holding him for ransom, we should just march in and bust him out. I'd really like doing that myself.

  • 12.20.2012 2:54 PM PDT

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-blam!- it, have them raid the place and break him out, it's abhorrent that a US service member is being held on BS charges by a corrupt police force. I have many issues with the Mexican judicial system.

  • 12.20.2012 3:06 PM PDT

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The title made me lol for some reason.

  • 12.20.2012 3:12 PM PDT


Posted by: mister death
Well that's too bad.

  • 12.20.2012 3:41 PM PDT

So will he be released?

  • 12.20.2012 3:44 PM PDT