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Subject: compare halo 4 to halo reach

Posted by: BiII Gates
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Posted by: BiII Gates
I feel like Halo 4 is what Bungie were shooting for with Reach, at least gameplay-wise.
I disagree entirely. Reach had way more of an emphasis on team success compared to Halo 4's emphasis on personal success.
How? The overall objective is still to get more points/kills than the other team, and it's even harder to play the 'lone wolf' role in H4 than it was in Reach because the kill times are shorter.
Join in Progress, removal of power weapons from the maps which eliminates much of the purpose of map control, having a billion pointless medals to make players feel better about their personal performance... there's alot of features in Halo 4 that skew the focus away from working as a team and more about personal performance.

  • 12.20.2012 11:26 AM PDT
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Both awful.

  • 12.20.2012 11:26 AM PDT
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Hey, guys, what's going on in this thread?
Someone tell Kivell that he is a lie.


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Reach is better.

  • 12.20.2012 11:27 AM PDT

Halo 4's campaign is far superior, but it's multiplayer is forgettable and custom games are atrocious, Reach wins for Custom Games and replayability through Custom Games.
yorkie

[Edited on 12.20.2012 11:28 AM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 11:28 AM PDT


Posted by: Hylebos
a billion pointless medals
*golf clap*

  • 12.20.2012 11:29 AM PDT
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the will to win is the will to destroy

in my opinion Halo 4 draws the best bits from reach and the best bits of halo 3

  • 12.20.2012 11:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kivell
Reach is better.

Quoted for truth!

  • 12.20.2012 11:36 AM PDT

I feel like Reach took more skill. I notice much more that if I get shot first, I die because the auto-aim is ridiculous, along with fast kill times.

In Reach, even if the person had a 2 shot lead on me, many times I would be able to win if I was better.

I feel like with a few tweaks they can make halo 4 amazing. Some of the decisions they made boggles my mind. For example:
-stay scoped in while getting shot
-random ordinance
-power weapons disappear like 10 seconds after you die with them
-DMR is a sniper
-No sniper headshot medal (why they did this when they have a medal for damn near everything is screwed up)
-you can spawn with plasma pistol, sticky grenades, and boltshot
-join in progress


Slayer Pro was a step in the right direction, but it still had many flaws.

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  • 12.20.2012 11:55 AM PDT
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Where Halo Reach fails, Halo 4 succeeds.


True, but where Halo Reach succeeded, Halo 4 fails.

  • 12.20.2012 11:56 AM PDT

Posted by: SRQ baller24
-stay scoped in while getting shot
Did they ever give a justification for that decision?

  • 12.20.2012 11:58 AM PDT

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  • 12.20.2012 12:01 PM PDT


Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: SRQ baller24
-stay scoped in while getting shot
Did they ever give a justification for that decision?

I only assume because they want the person who gets first shot to basically win.

In all other halo games, if someone is shooting you from afar, if you are good enough you will hit them while unscoped, which brings them out of there scope and then you scope in and kill them, unless they are good enough and can do the same thing back to you.

  • 12.20.2012 12:02 PM PDT

Posted by: SRQ baller24
Posted by: Hylebos
Posted by: SRQ baller24
-stay scoped in while getting shot
Did they ever give a justification for that decision?

I only assume because they want the person who gets first shot to basically win.

In all other halo games, if someone is shooting you from afar, if you are good enough you will hit them while unscoped, which brings them out of there scope and then you scope in and kill them, unless they are good enough and can do the same thing back to you.
It does baffle me that they would so carelessly remove such a basic mechanic.

  • 12.20.2012 12:03 PM PDT

halo 4 is the better game no doubt. everything reach tried to implement, 4 built upon that.

i just feel halo 4 is more inconsistent. other peoples grenades seem to bounce a lot more than mine. other people sticky detonator has a bigger blast radius. stuff like that

  • 12.20.2012 12:34 PM PDT


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  • 12.20.2012 12:35 PM PDT

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halo 4 is the better game no doubt. everything reach tried to implement, 4 built upon that.

i just feel halo 4 is more inconsistent. other peoples grenades seem to bounce a lot more than mine. other people sticky detonator has a bigger blast radius. stuff like that


agree with the sticky det, i dont understand why they can stand on mine and not die but i am 15 ft from it and i go flying...i have vids to prove it.

i feel that several people are agree with each other here and i agree with them to. do you feel that 343i while they have their own website and people go there; do you think that 343i should take a peak at what is being talked about in our threads the "true halo/bungie community" sort or speak?

but i think this is a great thread with alot of discussion value and i think its great to see you guys feeding off each other.
yorkie

  • 12.20.2012 9:28 PM PDT

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Halo 4 is a better Halo Reach

Edit: yorkie.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 9:31 PM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 9:29 PM PDT
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LeaveItYeah

With Halo Reach, my friends stuck around so I could play with a full party pretty much everyday. With Halo 4, they just left. Keeping in mind the majority of them are people I've been playing with since Halo 2.




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  • 12.20.2012 9:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
It seems like Halo 4 fixed a lot of Reach's problems with consistancy, but introduced numerous troubling problems of it's own. I haven't had a ton of time with the game, but a lot of their design decisions have me baffled as why they would do that other than to be contrary canaries.
Pretty much this. Some of the design choices seem, well, pointless.

  • 12.20.2012 9:31 PM PDT

Halo 4 is the best Halo but 343i has made much more retarded decisions than Bungie made with Reach.

  • 12.20.2012 9:32 PM PDT


Posted by: BiII Gates
I feel like Halo 4 is what Bungie were shooting for with Reach, at least gameplay-wise. H4 is a lot more polished than Reach and actually feels like a finished product.

That said, I'm still not a big fan of the multiplayer. Would rather play H2&H3, even if it's just LAN or split screen with friends.


^Thankyou for saving me the time it would take to think and write that.

  • 12.20.2012 9:35 PM PDT
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They both suck.
yorkie

  • 12.20.2012 9:35 PM PDT

Whatever as always.

Halo 4 is the only Halo ever.
Yorkie.

  • 12.20.2012 9:36 PM PDT

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  • 12.20.2012 9:37 PM PDT

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Both were amazing games IMO. I love Halo Reach's Invasion, and I feel reach had better maps (as of now). But I like Halo 4's gameplay, commendation, and armor system a lot.

  • 12.20.2012 9:37 PM PDT

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