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Is it weird I can relate to and agree with most of Holden's points?

  • 12.20.2012 7:32 PM PDT


Posted by: ROFL Wolf1254
Is it weird I can relate to and agree with most of Holden's points?


you want an hero?

  • 12.20.2012 7:34 PM PDT

How can you love him? He would annoy the living heck out of me if I ever met him.

  • 12.20.2012 7:36 PM PDT

Posted by: RedXRulez
He's just a lonely, angsty, Teenager.

That doesn't make him any less of a hero.

  • 12.20.2012 7:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: RedXRulez
He's just a lonely, angsty, Teenager.

That doesn't make him any less of a hero.
Heros aren't lonely, angsty, Teenagers.

  • 12.20.2012 8:00 PM PDT

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OT: I couldn't stand the book or the character. Never finished it...hell I don't think I made it a quarter of the way through.

  • 12.20.2012 8:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: RedXRulez
He's just a lonely, angsty, Teenager.

That doesn't make him any less of a hero.
Heros aren't lonely, angsty, Teenagers.

When was that made a literary rule?

  • 12.20.2012 8:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
About halfway finished with The Catcher In The Rye, and I have to say, I don't understand all the hate for its protagonist. He's an incredibly deep and completely correct character. He really is.


Caulfield isn't a hero. he is a child. He is a child who can't get past being a child and make it to adulthood.

  • 12.20.2012 8:06 PM PDT

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I agreed with his viewpoint when I read it, but then I realized how needy and whiny I was.

His viewpoints on right and wrong are correct. But he feels he his entitled to have everyone make his life better, while not doing anything to change his situation.

  • 12.20.2012 8:06 PM PDT

Posted by: Pogo947
Caulfield isn't a hero. he is a child. He is a child who can't get past being a child and make it to adulthood.

He's way more mature than anyone else he knows.

  • 12.20.2012 8:08 PM PDT

Posted by: ultratog1028
I agreed with his viewpoint when I read it, but then I realized how needy and whiny I was.

His viewpoints on right and wrong are correct. But he feels he his entitled to have everyone make his life better, while not doing anything to change his situation.

That's exactly the point. He's trapped in a world where he cannot do anything to change his life, and where other people just seem to have good things happen to them without trying. Like Stradlater, who gets all the girls just because of his looks and apathetic personality.

[Edited on 12.20.2012 8:09 PM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 8:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Pogo947
Caulfield isn't a hero. he is a child. He is a child who can't get past being a child and make it to adulthood.

He's way more mature than anyone else he knows.
that doesn't make him less of a child.

That's like saying an animal abuser isn't as bad as the person who has sex with the dogs.

  • 12.20.2012 8:09 PM PDT

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He gets everything handed to him on a silver platter and still is a misbehaving punk. He hires a hooker because he doesn't have the balls to just ring up his girlfriend. He's a judgemental prick. But some people, for whatever reason, think he's awesome, so let them be.

  • 12.20.2012 8:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Pogo947
Caulfield isn't a hero. he is a child. He is a child who can't get past being a child and make it to adulthood.

He's way more mature than anyone else he knows.


No. he thinks he is. He is just as bad as everyone else. You'll find the little sister to be the only mature one in the book.

  • 12.20.2012 8:10 PM PDT

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I agreed with his viewpoint when I read it, but then I realized how needy and whiny I was.

His viewpoints on right and wrong are correct. But he feels he his entitled to have everyone make his life better, while not doing anything to change his situation.

That's exactly the point. He's trapped in a world where he cannot do anything to change his life, and where other people just seem to have good things happen to them without trying. Like Stradlater, who gets all the girls just because of his looks and apathetic personality.

  • 12.20.2012 8:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Garem
Posted by: Pogo947
Caulfield isn't a hero. he is a child. He is a child who can't get past being a child and make it to adulthood.

He's way more mature than anyone else he knows.
that doesn't make him less of a child.

That's like saying an animal abuser isn't as bad as the person who has sex with the dogs.

He's way more mature than most adults, even. He pretty much has the flaws with society summed up.

  • 12.20.2012 8:11 PM PDT

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No, he's an annoying, whiny -blam!-.

  • 12.20.2012 8:11 PM PDT

itt I read this book for junior English and now I can officially say that it is the best book ever

  • 12.20.2012 8:12 PM PDT

Pretentious and bratty

Yes I know that's the point
Doesn't stop me from hating him though

  • 12.20.2012 8:12 PM PDT

I know you are but what am I?

He's the protagonist of the story

But how is he a hero?

[Edited on 12.20.2012 8:16 PM PST]

  • 12.20.2012 8:14 PM PDT

Posted by: ReconE14
Pretentious and bratty

Yes I know that's the point
Doesn't stop me from hating him though

He's neither pretentious nor bratty, in my opinion.

  • 12.20.2012 8:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: RedXRulez
He's just a lonely, angsty, Teenager.

That doesn't make him any less of a hero.
Heros aren't lonely, angsty, Teenagers.


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  • 12.20.2012 8:17 PM PDT

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That book made me go insane, it was almost as if it was mocking me. Note that I read it while being a patient in a psychiatric ward like Holden was. And it's alright to like him AND hate him. The author intended him to act immature and yet relate to adolescents. So if you hated the book because you hated the character congrats, you fell right in the author's trap.

  • 12.20.2012 8:17 PM PDT
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I read it in my Freshman year. I enjoyed the book but I wouldn't call it the best book ever, certainly not.

  • 12.20.2012 8:19 PM PDT

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