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Subject: When will people learn not to wear hoodies?
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  • 12.21.2012 9:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi

Posted by: A Deaf Boy
Having down syndrome doesn't mean a person is incapable of breaking the law. I condone the officers actions up until the point he realized the man was disabled.

Beat first, assess the situation later, maybe stop beating if person turns out to be a defenseless simpleton. I see no flaws in this logic.

That's not at all what I said. Don't twist my words. Don't spin it like I meant that for all situations.

In this instance however, yes that logic is actually sound. The suspect was wearing a hoodie, thus identification was impossible. The officer tried getting his attention to no avail. That is ignoring the police and the officer had every right to move on him. Like I said, the minute the officer realized the guy was disabled, he should've toned things down. He didn't, and for THAT I would consider a suspension or leave of absence.

If this was a normal person, he'd have no excuse and the officers actions would be totally justified. It just so happens the guy was actually disabled. Bad luck, whatever.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 10:00 AM PST]

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  • 12.21.2012 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: A Deaf Boy

Posted by: xGHOST270x

I believe a citizen should have the right to intervene in someone elses self
defense, even if an officer is the assailant, but we know that the judges tend to side with the officers all the time.

That is so hilariously stupid.


Which part is stupid now?

In the Rodney King beating, we just sat by and watched while officers damn near beat a man to death.

Officers beat a homeless man to death a few months ago, and nobody did a thing to stop it. How about the incident in the New York subway where an officer executed a man while he was handcuffed and prone on the ground? What about the group of officers who murdered a few New Orleans citizens and then tried to cover it up after Hurricane Katrina? All dead because by law they couldn't defend themselves or have others come to their aid.

Officers routinely abuse their power and go overboard in plenty of well documented cases. Want proof? Just browse Youtube for a bit and you will come across many cases of police brutality, and the sad thing is that most get away with their crimes with no more than a slap on the wrist, if that.


[Edited on 12.21.2012 10:08 AM PST]

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*sigh* America.


*Face-Palm* Really man?

OT: some cops take their power way over what it is.

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We should ban down syndrome and autism.

  • 12.21.2012 10:14 AM PDT

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Ok this story is terrible, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't wear hoodies, it just means police should be more careful and less reckless like this case.

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Posted by: xGHOST270x

Posted by: A Deaf Boy

Posted by: xGHOST270x

I believe a citizen should have the right to intervene in someone elses self
defense, even if an officer is the assailant, but we know that the judges tend to side with the officers all the time.

That is so hilariously stupid.


Which part is stupid now?

In the Rodney King beating, we just sat by and watched while officers damn near beat a man to death.

Officers beat a homeless man to death a few months ago, and nobody did a thing to stop it. How about the incident in the New York subway where an officer executed a man while he was handcuffed and prone on the ground? What about the group of officers who murdered a few New Orleans citizens and then tried to cover it up after Hurricane Katrina? All dead because by law they couldn't defend themselves or have others come to their aid.

Officers routinely abuse their power and go overboard in plenty of well documented cases. Want proof? Just browse Youtube for a bit and you will come across many cases of police brutality, and the sad thing is that most get away with their crimes with no more than a slap on the wrist, if that.

LMAO. YouTube is not a credible source. They always upload a fraction of the entire incident and almost always attempt to show the police in a bad light.

Anyhow, the whole idea of having citizens fighting cops is laughably stupid. Officers would have no protection then, especially when dealing with hardened criminals. Arresting a drug addict? Let's have all his buddies start attacking the officer.

Sure, in the event that an officer abuses his power, it would be nice if someone did something. But you can't, and there's a reason for it. If you can't figure out these reasons, than you have no business talking about this. I'll give you an example; Does a bystander always know what an officer is arresting someone for? Or why an officer is trying to get someone to comply? The answer is no. Thus, we can't have people seeing things they know nothing about and acting on it because "they have a right to". That's bad in so many ways. The best a bystander can do is watch and report to the other police after. Let them deal with it.

edit: Also, you've completely fallen victim to the belief that officers "routinely" abuse their powers. That is totally false. Of the thousands upon thousands of officers in this country, maybe 1% of them abuse their powers, and an incredibly small portion of that 1% actually end up in a fatality or horrendous beating which we then see on the news.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 10:42 AM PST]

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I <3 my hoodie.

  • 12.21.2012 10:42 AM PDT

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As long as I can keep my head warm with my hood, I'll risk getting randomly pepper sprayed and beaten to a pulp.

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  • 12.21.2012 11:10 AM PDT

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Hooded jumper = criminal.

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  • 12.21.2012 11:12 AM PDT

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Simple. Take off the hood near police or inside.

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Posted by: A Deaf Boy

Posted by: xGHOST270x

Posted by: A Deaf Boy

Posted by: xGHOST270x

I believe a citizen should have the right to intervene in someone elses self
defense, even if an officer is the assailant, but we know that the judges tend to side with the officers all the time.

That is so hilariously stupid.


Which part is stupid now?

In the Rodney King beating, we just sat by and watched while officers damn near beat a man to death.

Officers beat a homeless man to death a few months ago, and nobody did a thing to stop it. How about the incident in the New York subway where an officer executed a man while he was handcuffed and prone on the ground? What about the group of officers who murdered a few New Orleans citizens and then tried to cover it up after Hurricane Katrina? All dead because by law they couldn't defend themselves or have others come to their aid.

Officers routinely abuse their power and go overboard in plenty of well documented cases. Want proof? Just browse Youtube for a bit and you will come across many cases of police brutality, and the sad thing is that most get away with their crimes with no more than a slap on the wrist, if that.

LMAO. YouTube is not a credible source. They always upload a fraction of the entire incident and almost always attempt to show the police in a bad light.

Anyhow, the whole idea of having citizens fighting cops is laughably stupid. Officers would have no protection then, especially when dealing with hardened criminals. Arresting a drug addict? Let's have all his buddies start attacking the officer.

Sure, in the event that an officer abuses his power, it would be nice if someone did something. But you can't, and there's a reason for it. If you can't figure out these reasons, than you have no business talking about this. I'll give you an example; Does a bystander always know what an officer is arresting someone for? Or why an officer is trying to get someone to comply? The answer is no. Thus, we can't have people seeing things they know nothing about and acting on it because "they have a right to". That's bad in so many ways. The best a bystander can do is watch and report to the other police after. Let them deal with it.

edit: Also, you've completely fallen victim to the belief that officers "routinely" abuse their powers. That is totally false. Of the thousands upon thousands of officers in this country, maybe 1% of them abuse their powers, and an incredibly small portion of that 1% actually end up in a fatality or horrendous beating which we then see on the news.


Yes because reporting a cop to a cop does anything but make you a target while the reported cop gets off free.

  • 12.21.2012 11:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: A Deaf Boy
LMAO. YouTube is not a credible source. They always upload a fraction of the entire incident and almost always attempt to show the police in a bad light.

Anyhow, the whole idea of having citizens fighting cops is laughably stupid. Officers would have no protection then, especially when dealing with hardened criminals. Arresting a drug addict? Let's have all his buddies start attacking the officer.

Sure, in the event that an officer abuses his power, it would be nice if someone did something. But you can't, and there's a reason for it. If you can't figure out these reasons, than you have no business talking about this. I'll give you an example; Does a bystander always know what an officer is arresting someone for? Or why an officer is trying to get someone to comply? The answer is no. Thus, we can't have people seeing things they know nothing about and acting on it because "they have a right to". That's bad in so many ways. The best a bystander can do is watch and report to the other police after. Let them deal with it.

edit: Also, you've completely fallen victim to the belief that officers "routinely" abuse their powers. That is totally false. Of the thousands upon thousands of officers in this country, maybe 1% of them abuse their powers, and an incredibly small portion of that 1% actually end up in a fatality or horrendous beating which we then see on the news.


I was referring to cases in which the officer acted outside the law and people needed the ability to defend themselves, not when the local weedhead gets busted for possession in front of his buddies

In Plummer v. State, a man killed an officer who was acting outside the law with lethal intent. The decision was upheld by the supreme court that 'citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an officer's life if necessary'. So yes, of an officer is accosting an individual illegally, they have the right to defend ourselves as if it were any other man assaulting that individual, you'd just need to damn well be able to prove it.

Again, I'm not talking about normal happenstance events such as arresting an individual for DUI, disorderly conduct, prostitution, ect. I'm referring to instances where the officer is obviously in the wrong, yet they still continue with the acts. In the OP's linked page, bystanders even told the officer that the man was disabled and had no part in the event in question, yet the officer still beat him and maced him in the face.

As for your edit, any illegal activity, murder, or instance of police brutality is too much. Even if it is as you say, without citing any source, even if 1% of police-citizen interaction results in bodily injury or death due to officer incompetence and overkill, that's more than there needs to be.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 11:48 AM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 11:33 AM PDT

Posted by: AngryBrute1
Oh yeah, since somebody does not believe what YOU believe; that makes us vapid...
I cannot grasp that what you call "Something happened to nothing, and that nothing became something, and it was smaller than than a period."

When will people learn not to wear hoodies?
When cold weather and the need to cover your head and ears goes away.
That is disappointing though.

  • 12.21.2012 11:34 AM PDT

So there was a crowd, and no one does nothing? Cool!

  • 12.21.2012 11:37 AM PDT

I used to be indecisive, but now i'm not sure.

I don't entirely get hoods.
I always thought the hood was there to keep ones head warm and yet I see shirts with hoods, and people wearing these hoods in 30c degree heat!

It's hard to find a pair of non collared clothing without a hood at the shopping center these days...



Anywho as for the incident I can't make much of a comment.
I'd like to see if the young man actually appeared to be suspicious to the officer other than his hood.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 11:40 AM PST]

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I don't know about you guys, but every time I see someone wearing a hoodie I always report them for suspicious behavior. What's on the back of your head you don't want us to see, Agent 47?

  • 12.21.2012 11:42 AM PDT


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I blame video games, the officer clearly has played Assassin's Creed and was being wary of the suspects hidden blade.
He'll have his hands for that.
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  • 12.21.2012 11:44 AM PDT

There is a fine line between sarcasm and just supporting the other side.

I think the OP crossed it.

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