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Posted by: colbyrules8

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Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Why wouldn't I be? If it weren't for us you would be a German.[/quote]I love that argument. It works both ways. Do you really think you would win against the axis without the UK? At one point it was pretty much the only country left that was resisting the Axis.And if we lost it would be Europe+Japan v America. But you cheated and used two nukes on the Japanese civilians so...[/quote] How is using technology that only we had cheating?

"Lol, you're cheating because you have more FPS because you could actually afford that computer!"
Because you like to boast that you won the war heroically. When in reality you just incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians. Not to mention you had help developing the nuke from Canada and the UK
Heroically? I've never heard anyone say that, and it is quite irrelevant. It doesn't matter how we beat them, it doesn't matter what tactics we used, it is all irrelevant when you are discussing if we actually defeated them or not.
I'm just using that to counter the "you would all be speaking German if it wasn't for us" It works both ways and it was a combined effort. No single country would be able to beat the Axis by itself
The US never had to join the war.

Just wondering, if the US never joined the fighting, do you honestly think it would of ended the same way?
Well if Japan joined and didn't have the US to worry about then we would probably lose. But again this works both ways. If the UK never joined the fighting. You would have no help developing a nuke. And you would have a united Europe against you along with Japan

  • 12.21.2012 3:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: ronaldmcdonald
Well if Japan joined and didn't have the US to worry about then we would probably lose. But again this works both ways. If the UK never joined the fighting. You would have no help developing a nuke. And you would have a united Europe against you along with Japan


Again, QFF

  • 12.21.2012 3:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
Posted by: colbyrules8
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Being alone.
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Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: ronaldmcdonald

Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Why wouldn't I be? If it weren't for us you would be a German.[/quote]I love that argument. It works both ways. Do you really think you would win against the axis without the UK? At one point it was pretty much the only country left that was resisting the Axis.And if we lost it would be Europe+Japan v America. But you cheated and used two nukes on the Japanese civilians so...[/quote] How is using technology that only we had cheating?

"Lol, you're cheating because you have more FPS because you could actually afford that computer!" [/quote]Because you like to boast that you won the war heroically. When in reality you just incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians. Not to mention you had help developing the nuke from Canada and the UK[/quote] Heroically? I've never heard anyone say that, and it is quite irrelevant. It doesn't matter how we beat them, it doesn't matter what tactics we used, it is all irrelevant when you are discussing if we actually defeated them or not.
I'm just using that to counter the "you would all be speaking German if it wasn't for us" It works both ways and it was a combined effort. No single country would be able to beat the Axis by itself
The US never had to join the war.

Just wondering, if the US never joined the fighting, do you honestly think it would of ended the same way?
Well if Japan joined and didn't have the US to worry about then we would probably lose. But again this works both ways. If the UK never joined the fighting. You would have no help developing a nuke. And you would have a united Europe against you along with Japan

It doesn't work both ways. The UK had to fight from the start.

  • 12.21.2012 3:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: colbyrules8

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Question for lonepaul : would you die for your piece of land?
I wanted to join the RAF you tell me.


wanted

Wow, so heroic.
I have medical conditions like being half blind in 1 eye, flat footed and a heart murmer ensures I can't enlist or go into any uniform profession (Police)

  • 12.21.2012 3:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: ronaldmcdonald
Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: ronaldmcdonald

Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Why wouldn't I be? If it weren't for us you would be a German.[/quote]I love that argument. It works both ways. Do you really think you would win against the axis without the UK? At one point it was pretty much the only country left that was resisting the Axis.And if we lost it would be Europe+Japan v America. But you cheated and used two nukes on the Japanese civilians so...[/quote] How is using technology that only we had cheating?

"Lol, you're cheating because you have more FPS because you could actually afford that computer!" [/quote]Because you like to boast that you won the war heroically. When in reality you just incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians. Not to mention you had help developing the nuke from Canada and the UK[/quote] Heroically? I've never heard anyone say that, and it is quite irrelevant. It doesn't matter how we beat them, it doesn't matter what tactics we used, it is all irrelevant when you are discussing if we actually defeated them or not. [/quote]I'm just using that to counter the "you would all be speaking German if it wasn't for us" It works both ways and it was a combined effort. No single country would be able to beat the Axis by itself
The US never had to join the war.

Just wondering, if the US never joined the fighting, do you honestly think it would of ended the same way?
Well if Japan joined and didn't have the US to worry about then we would probably lose. But again this works both ways. If the UK never joined the fighting. You would have no help developing a nuke. And you would have a united Europe against you along with Japan

It doesn't work both ways. The UK had to fight from the start.
Ok if we didn't care about Germany invading Poland. Everything would still happen and Hitler would take over France and pretty much all of Europe. Then you have Europe and Japan against you

  • 12.21.2012 3:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: colbyrules8

Posted by: ronaldmcdonald
Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: ronaldmcdonald

Posted by: Lord Gwyn
Why wouldn't I be? If it weren't for us you would be a German.[/quote]I love that argument. It works both ways. Do you really think you would win against the axis without the UK? At one point it was pretty much the only country left that was resisting the Axis.And if we lost it would be Europe+Japan v America. But you cheated and used two nukes on the Japanese civilians so...[/quote] How is using technology that only we had cheating?

"Lol, you're cheating because you have more FPS because you could actually afford that computer!" [/quote]Because you like to boast that you won the war heroically. When in reality you just incinerated hundreds of thousands of civilians. Not to mention you had help developing the nuke from Canada and the UK[/quote] Heroically? I've never heard anyone say that, and it is quite irrelevant. It doesn't matter how we beat them, it doesn't matter what tactics we used, it is all irrelevant when you are discussing if we actually defeated them or not.
I'm just using that to counter the "you would all be speaking German if it wasn't for us" It works both ways and it was a combined effort. No single country would be able to beat the Axis by itself
The US never had to join the war.

Just wondering, if the US never joined the fighting, do you honestly think it would of ended the same way?
Well if Japan joined and didn't have the US to worry about then we would probably lose. But again this works both ways. If the UK never joined the fighting. You would have no help developing a nuke. And you would have a united Europe against you along with Japan

It doesn't work both ways. The UK had to fight from the start.
We would have won it would have taken longer that's all.

Japan could not continue the war effort without the oil which the USA was blocking which is why they attacked America in the 1st place.

And Russia was coming from the east, the Normany landings where being planned before America joined in.

  • 12.21.2012 3:31 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: Duardo
Being alone.
You're a mod, you should be used to that.


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Posted by: colbyrules8

Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: mike11107
Question for lonepaul : would you die for your piece of land?
I wanted to join the RAF you tell me.


wanted

Wow, so heroic.
I have medical conditions like being half blind in 1 eye, flat footed and a heart murmer ensures I can't enlist or go into any uniform profession (Police)
Irrelevant.

  • 12.21.2012 3:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
Not really. Your mom is over quite enough to make my fears mute.
Posted by: colbyrules8
Posted by: Duardo
Being alone.
You're a mod, you should be used to that.

It got quiet in here quite quickly. What happened, paul? Can you not handle a little criticism?
Doesn't surprise me, just another kid that tries to down other Nation's military forces when he isn't even decent enough to get a desk job within any branch. I honestly don't care if you get offended by this, I'm tired of seeing the US getting downed constantly for no reason other than pride of one's own Nation, just stick to your own Nation and I'll stick to mine ;)

  • 12.21.2012 3:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: colbyrules8
It got quiet in here quite quickly. What happened, paul? Can you not handle a little criticism?
Doesn't surprise me, just another kid that tries to down other Nation's military forces when he isn't even decent enough to get a desk job within any branch. I honestly don't care if you get offended by this, I'm tired of seeing the US getting downed constantly for no reason other than pride of one's own Nation, just stick to your own Nation and I'll stick to mine ;)

There are loads of people on here who constantly down other nations. This is the internet

  • 12.21.2012 3:50 PM PDT

1. Give me some proof that they stayed on to much longer.
2. Most major inventions from the UK? Like what? Everything you could list is nothing compared to the inventions that were made in America. By the way, Math was discovered in Asia-Minor hundreds of years before Europe became important.
4. China wasn't as important back then. They weren't nearly as large with business as they are now, in fact any country on the map could walk into China at the time and claim land there (Look up The Boxer Rebellion). Japan was an isolated country that had many goods but was very strict with their trading, which made opening trade with them much more important.

Learn 2 History.

Posted by: Android Spartan
Royal Navy stayed on top until 1812....Are you serious??

No nation on earth could compete with the Royal Navy until 1914, hence Pax Britannia where Britain was uncontested for 100 years.

Actually most Major inventions came from the UK, we have a much longer list also we where at the forfront of Science and mathematics even discovering the Atom. I can't be bothered to list them since there is so much, industrial revolution is the main example.

Also so what you opened up Japan, Portugal and the British forced open China which is a bigger feat.

  • 12.21.2012 5:44 PM PDT
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A rose is a woody perennial of the genus Rosa, within the family Rosaceae. There are over 100 species. They form a group of plants that can be erect shrubs, climbing or trailing with stems that are often armed with sharp prickles.

I agree with the presenter and China is only headed towards imminent disaster.

  • 12.21.2012 5:47 PM PDT

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-blam!- GTFO PANCAKES FTW

  • 12.21.2012 5:49 PM PDT

#rubberdingirapids

OP is a fail.

The USA have been a major superpower since the early 1900's, they became a much more powerful country after WW1 due to the former European superpowers being under a mountain of debt

And China will not be a superpower in 25 years time if their economy is still functioning the way it currently is. You need to have a large amount of consumer demand for a stable economy.

  • 12.21.2012 5:53 PM PDT

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The historical 20th century is more 1918 to 2001. The reason being World War I was a battle between 19th century imperial powers. If you look at it this way as the period of -ism's then you could call it the "American Century"

  • 12.21.2012 6:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cheeseoid
And China will not be a superpower in 25 years time if their economy is still functioning the way it currently is. You need to have a large amount of consumer demand for a stable economy.

And they do. Don't bother linking to some YouTube video. I've seen that one used time and time again and it's junk.

  • 12.21.2012 6:14 PM PDT

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Lol, bypassing the filters.

Idiot can't take a loss.

  • 12.21.2012 6:18 PM PDT
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Not in a way. The Germans and Jews were the 20th century.
The Americans were afraid of Russians.

  • 12.21.2012 6:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Android Spartan
I just saw a clip of a BBC show discussing China and he said "Many regard the last 100 years as the American century, the next 100 could very well be the Chinese century".

Now I have a problem with this, America only come to global power at 1945 possibly 1990 with the fall of the Soviet union.

As far as im concerned from 1814 to 1945 was the British Era, if anything America has only been on top for 70 years.

Do you agree with the BBC presenter?

Not really, after WW1, the UK fell from power because they were bashed from the Wars. Not to mention that the US's two Agricultural revolutions that gave a huge boost to their economies in the early 1900s and the 1950s and 60s

Also, China's economy is entirely reliant on the US economy since we are their #1 purchaser of products. India would be the better choice if you had to choose between a new international economic power rising up.

Sidenote: The 20th century was mostly based around an infotechnic economy, which the US pretty much dominated in. The 21st will likely be Biotechnic, which the US sucks at because politics are blocking many of the potential advances (many involving stem cell research and cloning)

[Edited on 12.21.2012 6:55 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 6:53 PM PDT


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This thread is now about pancakes vs. waffles


Pancakes are better.


WAFFLES!!!!

  • 12.21.2012 6:56 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.

The age of the european empires ended with World War I. I think it's proper to say that this was America's century.

  • 12.21.2012 7:00 PM PDT

Hurr

Oh, it's Lonepaul.

All I can say is America dun goofed in the 1930s

  • 12.21.2012 7:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: westpointusma15
Also, China's economy is entirely reliant on the US economy since we are their #1 purchaser of products. India would be the better choice if you had to choose between a new international economic power rising up.

Again not really. There's this false perception that all China does is export stuff. Net exports aren't the largest contributed of GDP. It's also consumption, which is the biggest contributor to Chinese GDP as is the case elsewhere, government spending (which is huge) and investment. Net exporters are the smallest contributor to GDP.

India being a bigger power than China is a pretty far fetched claim as well.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 7:29 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 7:28 PM PDT


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This thread is now about pancakes vs. waffles


Pancakes are better.


WAFFLES!!!!

Pie is the best.

  • 12.21.2012 7:31 PM PDT

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