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Subject: WarZ: Are you on the hate-train?


Posted by: deathjudge2006
Tl:dr

What is War Z? I keep hearing about it
a buggy as -blam!- "game" made by sketchy devs who flat out lied to the people who buy the games.

  • 12.21.2012 8:19 PM PDT

Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.

Haters gonna hate, huh?

  • 12.21.2012 8:20 PM PDT
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I do, I was one of the people who asked for a refund on the WarZ on the WarZ forums after I got it on steam and before steam realised the game was ass.


I was permabanned from the forums and the message was "Don't ask for refunds, you are never going to get one, we have your money now, and you can't do -blam!- about it."

and the ban time lift thing was : Never


Have you watched AVGN before?
no, I have heard of him though... why?


You said that the game was a**, which is a word AVGN uses frequently.

  • 12.21.2012 8:20 PM PDT

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I am not saying WarZ is any better, but it simply doesn't create a good atmosphere (like WoW, Resident Evil or whatever). It's just bland forest and small towns.


Turns out, that's what real life is. And DayZ feels real because it's built on a crushingly realistic game. It feels isolating and suspenseful, because it's trying to make you feel like you're actually in a zombie infested country, not Dead Island.
You know what's also real? Things like this. Just because it's real doesn't mean it has to be grey and dull like everyday life.


Really dull and grey huh?



Jeebus.


What settings is that on, very very low?


I just grabbed it off the DayZ subreddit lol


DayZ doesn't look amazing, but it sure looks better than WarZ

  • 12.21.2012 8:21 PM PDT


Posted by: MrMassakka
Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.

Haters gonna hate, huh?
good night OP, enjoy your day!

  • 12.21.2012 8:21 PM PDT

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It lied about features and charged for full price. Nothing more to explain.

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Posted by: Aang the Avatar
It deserves all the hate it gets.

  • 12.21.2012 8:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: MrMassakka
Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.

Haters gonna hate, huh?


I am amused by how you did not respond to my comments on WarZ's gameplay mechanics and only tried to justify the devs' "miscommunication".

  • 12.21.2012 8:23 PM PDT


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Posted by: DaViDlIkEsPiE2

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Posted by: DaViDlIkEsPiE2
I do, I was one of the people who asked for a refund on the WarZ on the WarZ forums after I got it on steam and before steam realised the game was ass.


I was permabanned from the forums and the message was "Don't ask for refunds, you are never going to get one, we have your money now, and you can't do -blam!- about it."

and the ban time lift thing was : Never


Have you watched AVGN before?
no, I have heard of him though... why?


You said that the game was a**, which is a word AVGN uses frequently.
Ah, that's why, I use the term only when I truley feel a game sucks to that point.

  • 12.21.2012 8:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: deathjudge2006
Tl:dr

What is War Z? I keep hearing about it
a buggy as -blam!- "game" made by sketchy devs who flat out lied to the people who buy the games.
What was the lie?

  • 12.21.2012 8:26 PM PDT


Posted by: MrMassakka
Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.

Haters gonna hate, huh?


You asked if and why people hated the game, and then tried to say that they couldn't use the game's biggest problem(being an alpha, sold and advertised as a ready game) as a reason. What were you expecting?

  • 12.21.2012 8:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: deathjudge2006

Posted by: DaViDlIkEsPiE2

Posted by: deathjudge2006
Tl:dr

What is War Z? I keep hearing about it
a buggy as -blam!- "game" made by sketchy devs who flat out lied to the people who buy the games.
What was the lie?


From redditor whimmy_millionaire:

Quick look and list of errors on the page:
No mention of the game not being completed yet, first of all. Game is still alpha.
"Each world is 100 to 400 square kilometers"
There is only one map right now and that is only about 75 square kilometers. To contrast, DayZ's Chernarus huge map is 225 square kilometers, and they're claiming there will be maps up to 400.
"you can also rent and create Public or Private Servers allocating spots for Friends or Clans"
Feature isn't implemented yet
"gain experience points and spend it to learn dozen of available skills"
Feature not implemented yet. The fact that they say 'available' skills especially pisses me off.
"Meld of PVE(Player versus Environment) and PVP (Player versus Player)"
No PvE servers yet (this one just might be the wording, you can choose a PvE style of play, but you can still be killed by other players)
"Up to 100 Players per Game Server"
The player cap was at 70, but was recently set down to 50 because the map is too small for that many players
"Dedicated Public Servers as well as Private Servers"
No private servers yet.
Also, the screenshots lie. You will NEVER see that many zombies in the actual game.
Honestly, some of the blame falls on Steam for this one. Obviously the info was written by the WarZ guys and then sent to steam, but it's obvious no fact checking happened. Basically the game is being sold as a finished product when it's nowhere near. When I see things like this: http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/8289252165 34676566/ it worries me.
EDIT: The fact that the game is listed as an indie mmo is laughable.
EDIT 2: Seems they've updated their steam page to remove some of the errors. Still no mention of alpha though.

  • 12.21.2012 8:29 PM PDT

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To be quite honest, I've been waiting for a LONG time for a zombie survival-horror based MMO. I'm very much looking forward to this game's full release after watching many gameplay videos featuring it.

I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.

For all the haters, you can certainly have an opinion, but since this game is only in the alpha stage, you can't judge the final product until it's released.

  • 12.21.2012 8:31 PM PDT

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To be quite honest, I've been waiting for a LONG time for a zombie survival-horror based MMO. I'm very much looking forward to this game's full release after watching many gameplay videos featuring it.

I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.

For all the haters, you can certainly have an opinion, but since this game is only in the alpha stage, you can't judge the final product until it's released.


The Dayz stand alone is being worked on by the guys who created Arma 2 and rockets mod team so its going to be amazing.

  • 12.21.2012 8:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.


You do realise that War Z is a mod of a pre-existing game, too, right? Except it's been in development a much shorter time than DayZ, and the base game it's built around is vastly inferior to the base game DayZ is built around.

And, actually, the only way that DayZ being a mod hurts it is that it makes a bit more time consuming to install.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 8:34 PM PST]

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Don't know enough aboot it to form an opinion.

  • 12.21.2012 8:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.


You do realise that War Z is a mod of a pre-existing game, too, right? Except it's been in development a much shorter time than DayZ, and the base game it's built around is vastly inferior to the base game DayZ is built around.

And, actually, the only way that DayZ being a mod hurts it is that it makes a bit more time consuming to install.


But War Z hasn't finished development yet :)

  • 12.21.2012 8:34 PM PDT


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Posted by: MrMassakka
Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.


He probably wanted legit reasons as to why the game is so bad. Not why the devs cant communicate.
Haters gonna hate, huh?


You asked if and why people hated the game, and then tried to say that they couldn't use the game's biggest problem(being an alpha, sold and advertised as a ready game) as a reason. What were you expecting?


He was expecting reasons why the game itself is bad, not reiterate the fact that's its an alpha and the devs lied.

My only complaint about the game itself is that it's too easy to camp and kill people leaving the safe zones, but that can be fixed and is more of a problem with people just being douche's

  • 12.21.2012 8:35 PM PDT


Posted by: Tyrant122312
To be quite honest, I've been waiting for a LONG time for a zombie survival-horror based MMO. I'm very much looking forward to this game's full release after watching many gameplay videos featuring it.

I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.

For all the haters, you can certainly have an opinion, but since this game is only in the alpha stage, you can't judge the final product until it's released.
They are charging retail price for it and neglecting to mention that it's an alpha, how are we supposed to judge it?

  • 12.21.2012 8:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: MrMassakka
Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.

Haters gonna hate, huh?

>OP ask questions
>gets defensive, constantly contradicts himself and fails
>ad hominem, ad hominem everywhere
>WELL, YOU'RE JUST A CONSPIRACY NUT!!!
>Gets called out on his bull-blam!-
>I'M LEAVING, YOURE JUST A POOPY PANTS!!!

[Edited on 12.21.2012 8:40 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 8:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Tyrant122312
But War Z hasn't finished development yet :)


Neither has DayZ, and DayZ has a proper studio supporting it.

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
But War Z hasn't finished development yet :)


Neither has DayZ, and DayZ has a proper studio supporting it.


Still, folks can make opinions regarding the devs all they want, but until the game is complete, we really don't know the end result.

I think this site is the perfect example to cite Halo in its alpha stage vs the final product :)

  • 12.21.2012 8:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.
Wait, why does that matter if the game is good, and may be better than a game built around a zombie apocalypse?

  • 12.21.2012 8:38 PM PDT

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It deserves all the hate it gets.

  • 12.21.2012 8:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.
Wait, why does that matter if the game is good, and may be better than a game built around a zombie apocalypse?


Whether or not it's good will depend on the player :) I haven't played either game first hand, so I can't make an accurate judgement call. But from the extensive footage I've seen from both, War Z seems like something I would enjoy more than Day Z. Not that either game is bad or sub-par. I just prefer the style I've observed so far with War Z as opposed to Day Z :)

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
But War Z hasn't finished development yet :)


Neither has DayZ, and DayZ has a proper studio supporting it.


Still, folks can make opinions regarding the devs all they want, but until the game is complete, we really don't know the end result.

I think this site is the perfect example to cite Halo in its alpha stage vs the final product :)



But was Halo sold to us in it's alpha stage, while promising features that may or may note make it into the final game?

  • 12.21.2012 8:43 PM PDT