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Subject: WarZ: Are you on the hate-train?


Posted by: BIueJ

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Posted by: MrMassakka
Yup, it seems to confirm that you are only hating the game because of some conspiracy maniacs and miscommunication without ever playing it.

I'll take my leave now... have a little more hopeful things to do than arguing with deadlocked people on the Internet for hours.


He probably wanted legit reasons as to why the game is so bad. Not why the devs cant communicate.
Haters gonna hate, huh?


You asked if and why people hated the game, and then tried to say that they couldn't use the game's biggest problem(being an alpha, sold and advertised as a ready game) as a reason. What were you expecting?


He was expecting reasons why the game itself is bad, not reiterate the fact that's its an alpha and the devs lied.

My only complaint about the game itself is that it's too easy to camp and kill people leaving the safe zones, but that can be fixed and is more of a problem with people just being douche's


Everyone is led to believe it is a retail ready product. Therefore the consumers can only assume that it's the finished product. If a AAA title were to be released and advertised as a finished product but played like an alpha, wouldn't that be a gameplay issue?

EDIT:I'd also like to point out, that(assuming the rumors of the devs pulling the plug are untrue) the game will never be finished(or it should at least be a while before it is), therefore, it can ONLY be judged in it's current state.

[Edited on 12.21.2012 8:49 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 8:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Still, folks can make opinions regarding the devs all they want, but until the game is complete, we really don't know the end result.

I think this site is the perfect example to cite Halo in its alpha stage vs the final product :)


Except we know that War Z was made to cash in on the success of DayZ, and that the main marketing strategy of the developers is to blatantly lie. If you think anything good is going to come of War Z, especially compared to a professional developer like Bohemia, you're dreaming.

  • 12.21.2012 8:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
But War Z hasn't finished development yet :)


Neither has DayZ, and DayZ has a proper studio supporting it.


Still, folks can make opinions regarding the devs all they want, but until the game is complete, we really don't know the end result.

I think this site is the perfect example to cite Halo in its alpha stage vs the final product :)



But was Halo sold to us in it's alpha stage, while promising features that may or may note make it into the final game?


No. I'd say Halo 2 was a better example of that. While we never say a beta, the demo delivered a MASSIVE city with destructible Phantoms, and a Battle Rifle that functioned similarly to Halo 4's Light Rifle. Even the graphics in the demo were better!

In short, I was expecting a very different game. To this day, Halo 2 is still my least favorite in the series.

  • 12.21.2012 8:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
Still, folks can make opinions regarding the devs all they want, but until the game is complete, we really don't know the end result.

I think this site is the perfect example to cite Halo in its alpha stage vs the final product :)


Except we know that War Z was made to cash in on the success of DayZ, and that the main marketing strategy of the developers is to blatantly lie. If you think anything good is going to come of War Z, especially compared to a professional developer like Bohemia, you're dreaming.


This brings back memories of Halo 2. See above post :-P

  • 12.21.2012 8:47 PM PDT


Everyone is led to believe it is a retail ready product. Therefore the consumers can only assume that it's the finished product. If a AAA title were to be released and advertised as a finished product but played like an alpha, wouldn't that be a gameplay issue?


More like an issue of the dev's being liars and trying really hard to get their game out there on the market way too fast. The games great but like most dev's, they care about money most of all.

  • 12.21.2012 8:49 PM PDT


Posted by: BIueJ

Everyone is led to believe it is a retail ready product. Therefore the consumers can only assume that it's the finished product. If a AAA title were to be released and advertised as a finished product but played like an alpha, wouldn't that be a gameplay issue?


More like an issue of the dev's being liars and trying really hard to get their game out there on the market way too fast. The games great but like most dev's, they care about money most of all.


While I agree that it is an issue of the devs lying, it also negatively impacts the gameplay, making it a gameplay issue as well.

  • 12.21.2012 8:53 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Tyrant122312
This brings back memories of Halo 2. See above post :-P


I don't see your point.

  • 12.21.2012 8:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
Still, folks can make opinions regarding the devs all they want, but until the game is complete, we really don't know the end result.

I think this site is the perfect example to cite Halo in its alpha stage vs the final product :)


Except we know that War Z was made to cash in on the success of DayZ, and that the main marketing strategy of the developers is to blatantly lie. If you think anything good is going to come of War Z, especially compared to a professional developer like Bohemia, you're dreaming.


Yeah. WarZ is basically dead in the water and there's no way its developer will get it rolling again after what has happen.

  • 12.21.2012 8:54 PM PDT
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OP is a Warz developer.

  • 12.21.2012 8:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Tyrant122312
This brings back memories of Halo 2. See above post :-P


I don't see your point.


Point is, the game we ultimately got was far different than the one that was advertised. This was misleading.

  • 12.21.2012 8:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Point is, the game we ultimately got was far different than the one that was advertised. This was misleading.


It wasn't an advertisement.

  • 12.21.2012 9:09 PM PDT

One does not simply trolololol into Mordor.

The crap stain on a truck stop toilet has more polygons than the textures in WarZ.

  • 12.21.2012 9:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: Tyrant122312
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Posted by: Tyrant122312
I've never played Day-Z and never plan to since it's merely a mod of another game (granted an excellent one). I'll just wait for the one that was built from the ground up as a zombie MMO.
Wait, why does that matter if the game is good, and may be better than a game built around a zombie apocalypse?


Whether or not it's good will depend on the player :) I haven't played either game first hand, so I can't make an accurate judgement call. But from the extensive footage I've seen from both, War Z seems like something I would enjoy more than Day Z. Not that either game is bad or sub-par. I just prefer the style I've observed so far with War Z as opposed to Day Z :)
Fair enough then. I just thought you had a principle against modding where you wouldn't even consider the modded game.

  • 12.21.2012 9:26 PM PDT


Posted by: Aang the Avatar
It deserves all the hate it gets.

  • 12.21.2012 9:31 PM PDT

Technically, the cake can NOT be a like. It was seen, in its' true form, to be so deliciously moist. Therefore, you not attending the party was a grave mistake, and you are now shamed in the world. How do you sleep at night?

I've played both, and I can honestly say this:

WarZ is terrible, compared to DayZ. DayZ creates a feeling of incredible tension and fear, the likes of which WarZ cannot come close to replicating. WarZ, quite frankly, feels almost like Dead Island, in a sense. In DayZ (imo), the things you do to the environment and other players feels like it meant something, like stuff that can change the way the game is played.
For example (bear with me here), in DayZ, you encounter a random camp on a server that, just so happens, to belong to a fairly large group of players (clan). You sneak in and steal one of their vehicles, and spend the rest of the game on the run from them. This has happened to me before, and I've never been so afraid and tense in a game before. WarZ doesn't do that. WarZ, in it's current state, and the direction that it seems to be heading, will never do that. It's just bad at being what it's trying to be.

/imo


[Edited on 12.21.2012 9:37 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 9:36 PM PDT

Remember those times when we all had something better to be doing, but didn't do it? Those were good times. Gooood times

Hate train, full steam ahead!

>5 minutes into the game I encountered my first hacker. Killed me and 5 others with a flashlight instantly.

>The 4 hour respawn was horribly unprofessional. Hell, everything the company has done has been unprofessional.

>The game was not ready for release. This is a fact, get over it.

>Using money gives you a huge advantage over other players- instant respawn for example allows you to go and retreive your items before they disappear/ other players get them.

  • 12.21.2012 9:42 PM PDT

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It was then that I decided he really is like semen(everywhere) and I gave up on life.


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  • 12.21.2012 9:42 PM PDT
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  • 12.21.2012 9:45 PM PDT

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9/10

Op you trolled a lot of floodians awesome job
Posted by: MrMassakka
I have seen a lot of hate for this game recently and after playing it for a month now, I don't quite understand it.

What are the peoples' points?

1. "WarZ is just a scam and the devs are blatantly lying."
That is not entirely true. The game is simply not finished yet and the communication to the publicity failed. They decided to follow the concept of Minecraft Alpha/Beta participation with paying 10-15$ to follow the game until release. The only problem now was that they never advertised the game like that, but already called it "Release" everywhere. Even got it on Steam.
And I can relate to people that are now pissed when they read the features and saw the screenshots that simply do not represent the game. The requests for refunds are completely understandable.
However, that is just a miscommunication. The devs simply failed to list all this as a goal and not a current state. The game is in reality at an alpha stage and you should judge the games' quality on that just as much as you have judged Minecraft back then.

2. "It's a pay-to-win game"
False. All you can buy with additional money are things like food, bags, masks, very few types of ammo, attachments and meele weapons. If you have played the game for some time you will see that these are not really giving you an edge.
You can find all these items rather easily on the field. All proper weapons (pistols, shotguns, assult-rifles, sniper) only be found on the field.

3. "The respawn-time of 4h is ridiculous"
Let me first say that they already patched it back to 1h. And you can have 5 characters. If you really suck so bad to manage getting all your 5 characters killed in an hour, you may just stop playing the game. When you die, you loose all the stuff the character had. Instant-reviving through payment will only spawn that character without equipment in the wilderness. No advantage given.

4. "The game is full of hackers/glitchers"
I have played it the whole month almost daily and guess what? I haven't encountered a single hacker. You may find someone instant logging off once you shoot him, but that is already the worst that can happen. And it happens very rarely.
It's pretty easy to glitch, but I haven't been killed by one of these people ever.

5."It's just a DayZ rip-off"
This doesn't have anything to do with the games' quality. I can accept a game that takes the concept of one game and does its' own interpretation. This is very common in games, books, movies, musicals and other pieces of art. I don't see how it can make so many people so butthurt.
It's the games' quality that counts, not the originality or uniqueness of the idea. Should they implement what they planned, it will even improve on the rather bland DayZ.

All I have heard people say until now is "lololol WarZ sucks balls" and "-blam!- WarZ, DayZ rulez!!1!1". Hating the game without ever playing it or giving it any chance.

So I ask you... are you also on the senseless hate-train the whole Internet now seems to be on? ...or can you actually defend your own opinion with valid points?

  • 12.21.2012 10:24 PM PDT
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I haven't really played it so I don't care.

  • 12.21.2012 10:25 PM PDT
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  • 12.21.2012 10:25 PM PDT

Per Audacia Ad Astra

I've only heard negative things about it.

  • 12.21.2012 10:30 PM PDT


Posted by: BestSpartan117
9/10

Op you trolled a lot of floodians awesome job
Posted by: MrMassakka





If this is what high quality trolling is then im the president of America.

I meen, he was basically just acting like a WaRZ fan and people believed him. Big woop

[Edited on 12.21.2012 10:31 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2012 10:30 PM PDT
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The War Z is a steaming pile of s**t. It's a copy and paste of War Inc. with some zombies thrown in. The developers blatantly lie about features. "100sqkm Map! Just kidding! F**k you! 10sqkm!" People play Day Z because it is a quality mod and the developers actually listen to their community. It's kinda sad when a mod is of better quality than this supposed "shelf ready" game.

When I get into a battle in Day Z, my heart starts pumping because bullets are snapping past my head and I don't want someone to get my gear. When I get into a battle in War Z, I get annoyed because some guy with a f**king pumpkin on his head won't stop trying to hit me with his flashlight.

You think walking in Day Z is boring? At least I don't move slower than a crawling infant. I don't expect to be a track star but I'm sure as hell not a 800 lbs bastard with a heart condition. The War Z is a pathetic excuse for a game. Don't give me that alpha bulls**t. It's just a cash grab at Day Z's popularity and success. I tried to give it a fair shot but I'm sick of being lied to and being beaten to death, on spawn, by some f**cker with a flashlight.

  • 12.21.2012 11:15 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
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Posted by: BestSpartan117
9/10

Op you trolled a lot of floodians awesome job
Posted by: MrMassakka





If this is what high quality trolling is then im the president of America.

I meen, he was basically just acting like a WaRZ fan and people believed him. Big woop

  • 12.21.2012 11:19 PM PDT