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Guns are still not the problem. Adam Lanza stole the gun he used for the shooting.


Omg lol. You can't be serious???

Where do you think he stole it from? hahaha

The chance of stealing a gun in Aus in close to zero.


He stole it from a legal carrier, his mother. Most criminals obtain their guns illegally. All you're doing is preventing legal carriers from protecting themselves by making the laws stricter.


Let me ask you this: if his mother never had the gun could he have shot her? I'll give in and say he could have stabbed her but it still stands that the gun was AVAILABLE for use.


Thankyou I didn't want to have to spell it out to them but I guess you had to hahah

  • 12.22.2012 8:23 AM PDT

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You know, I've stopped worrying about gun control. If they ban guns, what's going to stop me from storing 3D designs of assault rifles on a private server and utilizing a 3D printer to create a working rifle?

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The NRA guys suck, how can you defend guns after the killing of 20 kids??
Because it was more the man than the gun. I like their idea because Israel has armed guards at their schools and have not had a successful school shooting since the 70's, which was before the guards were there.

you already do in colleges and universities (Security) but yet shootings still happen.
Which is why there are so many less shootings in colleges/universities than schools.

Also, guns aren't the only problem; Look what you can do with out one. The internet has many places to learn how to craft bombs out of scratch, so this could easily be repeated.

Removing firearms would only give us a false sense of security since these massacres can still happen without them. If a human wants to kill, they'll find a way to kill: Car, knife, bomb, poison, hammer; the list goes on. Also, we should keep our rights while we have them, or at least rewrite the second amendment to fit modern times.


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  • 12.22.2012 8:29 AM PDT

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You know, I've stopped worrying about gun control. If they ban guns, what's going to stop me from storing 3D designs of assault rifles on a private server and utilizing a 3D printer to create a working rifle?


This?

  • 12.22.2012 8:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: Direct Control
You know, I've stopped worrying about gun control. If they ban guns, what's going to stop me from storing 3D designs of assault rifles on a private server and utilizing a 3D printer to create a working rifle?

Easy, ban the files and designs.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

We have...

300 million citizens
50 million gun owners
260 million legally obtained guns
Hundreds of gangs
An unknown amount of illegal guns
An unknown amount of illegal immigrants
A country on our border that is controlled by drug cartels who make their money through gun/drug trafficking

That is a logistical nightmare. There's no possible way that you can remove guns from the US, and only law-abiding citizens will be negatively impacted by gun restrictions. The gangs and cartels will make more money. Violent crimes will increase because criminals will be unchallenged.

The most logical and responsible way to end these rampages is to improve our mental healthcare. If these disturbed individuals can get proper psychiatric treatment, they can be helped. We may not be able to put them back into society, but we can create an environment that keeps them safe from us, and us safe from them.
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Banning guns will just increase the crime rate because criminals will feel safe to commit crimes.

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Im not disputing your point but the UK has only farmers and some ex military guys have guns, the police don't have guns except special units.

And honestly I feel pretty dam safe.

  • 12.22.2012 8:30 AM PDT

I'm 23, I have a house, dog, girlfriend, job and I have no interest in any fanboyism so if you're thinking about sending me a childish PM, don't be surprised when I don't call back.

I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorised to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.

  • 12.22.2012 8:30 AM PDT
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Yet these "celebrities" make movies/shows with guns and violence and don't want to stop those. GTFO hypocrites.

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
We have...

300 million citizens
50 million gun owners
260 million legally obtained guns


And less than 1/2 of 1% of those people commit crimes with them.. Why should we have to suffer because some people are idiots? No thanks.

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

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Posted by: lime013

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The NRA guys suck, how can you defend guns after the killing of 20 kids??
Because it was more the man than the gun. I like their idea because Israel has armed guards at their schools and have not had a successful school shooting since the 70's, which was before the guards were there.

you already do in colleges and universities (Security) but yet shootings still happen.
Which is why there are so many less shootings in colleges/universities than schools.

Also, guns aren't the only problem; Look what you can do with out one. The internet has many places to learn how to craft bombs out of scratch, so this could easily be repeated.

Removing firearms would only give us a false sense of security since these massacres can still happen without them. If a human wants to kill, they'll find a way to kill: Car, knife, bomb, poison, hammer; the list goes on. Also, we should keep our rights while we have them, or at least rewrite the second amendment to fit modern times.
Causing a massacre with a hammer, knife? Really? We had 1 idiot in Wales who ran over 16 people but people in this country still feel safe.

It's not a false sense of security at all, in America even with guns your still scared of being shot or robbed.

  • 12.22.2012 8:33 AM PDT

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It was then that I decided he really is like semen(everywhere) and I gave up on life.


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I can't watch the video at the moment so I don't know who all participated but have any of them played in a movie/show/video that had some sort of gun violence in it?

  • 12.22.2012 8:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorised to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.

  • 12.22.2012 8:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorised to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.

  • 12.22.2012 8:36 AM PDT
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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.


Posted by: lime013

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

No, they're not. Not for a country that already has 260,000,000 guns in it. It would be logistically impossible, not to mention a huge waste of police time and resources. This is why anyone not a citizen living in the US should not be allowed an opinion on US laws. You don't live here or know what it's really like. You come here for a vacation and watch the news, but you haven't lived like we do.

Guns are not a problem. The mental health, and healthcare, of the country is the problem.

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Posted by: lime013

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The NRA guys suck, how can you defend guns after the killing of 20 kids??
Because it was more the man than the gun. I like their idea because Israel has armed guards at their schools and have not had a successful school shooting since the 70's, which was before the guards were there.

you already do in colleges and universities (Security) but yet shootings still happen.
Which is why there are so many less shootings in colleges/universities than schools.

Also, guns aren't the only problem; Look what you can do with out one. The internet has many places to learn how to craft bombs out of scratch, so this could easily be repeated.

Removing firearms would only give us a false sense of security since these massacres can still happen without them. If a human wants to kill, they'll find a way to kill: Car, knife, bomb, poison, hammer; the list goes on. Also, we should keep our rights while we have them, or at least rewrite the second amendment to fit modern times.
Causing a massacre with a hammer, knife? Really? We had 1 idiot in Wales who ran over 16 people but people in this country still feel safe.

It's not a false sense of security at all, in America even with guns your still scared of being shot or robbed.
Even though no one was killed, it still shows how much damage can be done with a sharp object.

Also, you can still kill someone with a hammer, but it was a bit of an exaggeration.

[Edited on 12.22.2012 8:37 AM PST]

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Yet these "celebrities" make movies/shows with guns and violence and don't want to stop those. GTFO hypocrites.

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x
We have...

300 million citizens
50 million gun owners
260 million legally obtained guns


And less than 1/2 of 1% of those people commit crimes with them.. Why should we have to suffer because some people are idiots? No thanks.
So your saying "Video games don't cause gun violence" but now your saying films do?

The celebrities are not hypocrites they just do a bigger and fancier version of kids playing Army, why don't we call the military hypocrites when they say we don't fight so you idiots can shoot each other?

  • 12.22.2012 8:37 AM PDT

Watch out. If I post in your thread, chances are it'll die. I've been cursed, and if I kill your thread, I'm sorry.

Guns are not the problem, its the fact that people with terrible intentions can get their hands on them.

  • 12.22.2012 8:38 AM PDT

As others have said, it's the crazy people who are making the issues here, not the weapons themselves. I'm all for strict laws surrounding who gets the firearms, but I do not agree with an outright ban of them.

I would like to possibly see more thorough mental examinations for those who wish to purchase a gun, perhaps. Overall, I feel treating the problem of the problematic people is more effective than simply banning any and all guns. Doing that will simply take them away from those who wish to use them for recreation. Those who want guns badly enough will still obtain them, no matter what bans are imposed.

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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lime013

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

No, they're not. Not for a country that already has 260,000,000 guns in it. It would be logistically impossible, not to mention a huge waste of police time and resources. This is why anyone not a citizen living in the US should not be allowed an opinion on US laws. You don't live here or know what it's really like. You come here for a vacation and watch the news, but you haven't lived like we do.

Guns are not a problem. The mental health, and healthcare, of the country is the problem.
We don't live in Russia or China but we tell them to sort their human right violations out.

  • 12.22.2012 8:38 AM PDT

>Implying they fix their internal problems just cause another country said so.

They do it cause they know it's a problem, not because some other country brought it up.

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We don't live in Russia or China but we tell them to sort their human right violations out.

  • 12.22.2012 8:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: lime013

Even though no one was killed, it still shows how much damage can be done with a sharp object.

Also, you can still kill someone with a hammer, but it was a bit of an exaggeration.
Oh im aware of the chinese guy and I know your hammer was a stupid one, I remember a video of a guy with a heavy blunt object that got shot multiple times by police.

So can't take that seriously either.

  • 12.22.2012 8:40 AM PDT

I am assuming direct control.


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Posted by: Direct Control
You know, I've stopped worrying about gun control. If they ban guns, what's going to stop me from storing 3D designs of assault rifles on a private server and utilizing a 3D printer to create a working rifle?

Easy, ban the files and designs.

You're right, because the government actually has the capability to stop anyone from downloading whatever they want, or even has the ability to catch someone if they were smart.

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>Implying they fix their internal problems just cause another country said so.

They do it cause they know it's a problem, not because some other country brought it up.

Posted by: Android Spartan
We don't live in Russia or China but we tell them to sort their human right violations out.
I imagine if America did a massive propaganda war in North Korea the people would probably do something about the government.

  • 12.22.2012 8:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Direct Control

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Posted by: Direct Control
You know, I've stopped worrying about gun control. If they ban guns, what's going to stop me from storing 3D designs of assault rifles on a private server and utilizing a 3D printer to create a working rifle?

Easy, ban the files and designs.

You're right, because the government actually has the capability to stop anyone from downloading whatever they want, or even has the ability to catch someone if they were smart.
Well.....Yea.

Unless your calling the FBI and CIA useless idiots.

  • 12.22.2012 8:42 AM PDT

What on Earth does that have to do with anything you just posted?

Posted by: Android Spartan
I imagine if America did a massive propaganda war in North Korea the people would probably do something about the government.

  • 12.22.2012 8:42 AM PDT