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Posted by: lime013

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

No, they're not. Not for a country that already has 260,000,000 guns in it. It would be logistically impossible, not to mention a huge waste of police time and resources. This is why anyone not a citizen living in the US should not be allowed an opinion on US laws. You don't live here or know what it's really like. You come here for a vacation and watch the news, but you haven't lived like we do.

Guns are not a problem. The mental health, and healthcare, of the country is the problem.


I have "lived like you do" thank you very much because culturally our countries are very similar so all of those problems exist here with the difference being we aren't all armed to the teeth.

You are correct that the logistics of it would be difficult and costly but in the long run would it not make you feel better having guns monitored this way? You could still keep a gun if that's something that you feel passionate about but you would be required to be responsible, safe, and sane in order to do it.

That's not unreasonable.

  • 12.22.2012 8:43 AM PDT
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I agree, but celebs are just using mass murder as good PR as usual which I find equally disturbing.

  • 12.22.2012 8:43 AM PDT

I'd also like to point this out.

Notice how the crime rate in D.C. dropped after the gun ban in the area was lifted.

  • 12.22.2012 8:43 AM PDT

You look around.You fire your weapon before you realize.
Its just me. I fall and you walk up. You cry why.
When i pop up. You look at me in wonder. I say,"ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL."
You bend to my will and go to a cliff, walk off, and fall.
The last thing you hear is me stating as fact,"All will fail the battle of life, you just went early"

I am still waiting for someone to put forward a plan to actually get rid of the gun problem in America. Until then, anti-gun arguments are basically pointless.

And by plan, I mean something that isn't idiotic.

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Posted by: Gaara444
What on Earth does that have to do with anything you just posted?

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I imagine if America did a massive propaganda war in North Korea the people would probably do something about the government.
Just saying you can point something out and the country can fix it.

Anyway back on topic.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.


Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lime013

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

No, they're not. Not for a country that already has 260,000,000 guns in it. It would be logistically impossible, not to mention a huge waste of police time and resources. This is why anyone not a citizen living in the US should not be allowed an opinion on US laws. You don't live here or know what it's really like. You come here for a vacation and watch the news, but you haven't lived like we do.

Guns are not a problem. The mental health, and healthcare, of the country is the problem.
We don't live in Russia or China but we tell them to sort their human right violations out.

They're violating the rights of their citizens, which restricting guns would also be restricting our rights. Our right to keep and bear arms, and even to form militias, is secured in the Constitution. Now, that's factual information, so is the number of guns and owners I posted earlier.

If you want to talk about opinions, I personally believe that we should stay out of foreign country's affairs, unless it directly affects our national security. No one is forced to own guns in the US. You are required to pass a background check for every firearm purchase. Adam Lanza failed the background check and was denied purchase five times. Him obtaining those weapons by killing his mother and stealing them, which means this shooting was with illegally-obtained firearms too, was the result of her lack if personal responsibility and the country's lack of mental healthcare. It is not the fault of firearms, laws related to firearms, or the fifty million law-abiding gun owners in this country.

  • 12.22.2012 8:45 AM PDT

I am assuming direct control.


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You know, I've stopped worrying about gun control. If they ban guns, what's going to stop me from storing 3D designs of assault rifles on a private server and utilizing a 3D printer to create a working rifle?

Easy, ban the files and designs.

You're right, because the government actually has the capability to stop anyone from downloading whatever they want, or even has the ability to catch someone if they were smart.
Well.....Yea.

Unless your calling the FBI and CIA useless idiots.

It's amazing how naive you are... First off, CIA doesn't even meddle with domestic issues most of the time, that would be the FBI, NSA, and other government spooks. Secondly, the FBI doesn't have anywhere near enough people to block the transfer of information. Piracy, Underage -blam!-, and other ungodly things are still rampant on the internet, you simply don't see them. It would be incredibly easy to move stored 3D copies of weapons around.

  • 12.22.2012 8:46 AM PDT
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Even though no one was killed, it still shows how much damage can be done with a sharp object.

Also, you can still kill someone with a hammer, but it was a bit of an exaggeration.
Oh im aware of the chinese guy and I know your hammer was a stupid one, I remember a video of a guy with a heavy blunt object that got shot multiple times by police.

So can't take that seriously either.
Anyways, to stop focusing on an exaggeration I made to exemplify how many common, legal objects can kill, let's dive back into that school bombing in 1927 that killed 38 elementary school students and how having armed security/staff, as well as simple things like locked doors, can help prevent massacres like this without removing an amendment.

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Posted by: Gaara444
I'd also like to point this out.

Notice how the crime rate in D.C. dropped after the gun ban in the area was lifted.
because what happened in DC will happen across the country.

It's funny to think if you didn't have the right to bear arms in the constitution non of you would give a dam about gun control.

  • 12.22.2012 8:48 AM PDT

Per Audacia Ad Astra

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British people
tea
yellow teeth.
You are either joking or have an incredibly false idea of British people.

OT: Serious and dramatic.

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Posted by: lime013

Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: lime013

Even though no one was killed, it still shows how much damage can be done with a sharp object.

Also, you can still kill someone with a hammer, but it was a bit of an exaggeration.
Oh im aware of the chinese guy and I know your hammer was a stupid one, I remember a video of a guy with a heavy blunt object that got shot multiple times by police.

So can't take that seriously either.
Anyways, to stop focusing on an exaggeration I made to exemplify how many common, legal objects can kill, let's dive back into that school bombing in 1927 that killed 38 elementary school students and how having armed security/staff, as well as simple things like locked doors, can help prevent massacres like this without removing an amendment.
The police in the UK have special hotlines for members of the public to call if they feel somebody is making home made bombs.

The police work with the community to do their job which is how it should be, the US citizens are scared of their cops. Except for the london bombings and IRA bombings we rarely get any bomb attempts only caught planning in the news.

  • 12.22.2012 8:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Gaara444
I'd also like to point this out.

Notice how the crime rate in D.C. dropped after the gun ban in the area was lifted.
because what happened in DC will happen across the country.

It's funny to think if you didn't have the right to bear arms in the constitution non of you would give a dam about gun control.
If we use our state governments to enforce the law, then yes.

Also, it's easy not to miss something you never had.

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

The vast majority of gun owners are responsible, safe, and sane. And, no. I would not feel safer using the UK's system of regulations. The best thing we can do is to...

1. Improve the quality and availability of mental healthcare.
2. Get rid of "Gun Free Zones" that only serve as advertisements that say, "Commit crimes here! We can't shoot back!"
3. Increase funding and training of Law Enforcement and have armed officers at schools.

That will solve most of our problems, but we still have to deal with cartels and gangs. That will need to be sorted out through the legal system and federal agencies, along with local law enforcement in high activity areas.

Is what I'm asking for, along with millions of others, that far-fetched? Are we asking too much that we treat the problem at its source?
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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lime013

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

No, they're not. Not for a country that already has 260,000,000 guns in it. It would be logistically impossible, not to mention a huge waste of police time and resources. This is why anyone not a citizen living in the US should not be allowed an opinion on US laws. You don't live here or know what it's really like. You come here for a vacation and watch the news, but you haven't lived like we do.

Guns are not a problem. The mental health, and healthcare, of the country is the problem.


I have "lived like you do" thank you very much because culturally our countries are very similar so all of those problems exist here with the difference being we aren't all armed to the teeth.

You are correct that the logistics of it would be difficult and costly but in the long run would it not make you feel better having guns monitored this way? You could still keep a gun if that's something that you feel passionate about but you would be required to be responsible, safe, and sane in order to do it.

That's not unreasonable.

  • 12.22.2012 8:51 AM PDT

Because banning guns is the right thing to do right?

And of course we care because it's in The Constitution. I'll give you a little U.S. Government lesson: The U.S. Constitution is The Supreme Law of The Land here. Nothing is above those pieces of paper that make up the Constitution. Yet we have all these Anti-Gun enthusiasts that seem to think we can just ignore the most powerful authority in the country just because they think "It's only some paper".

Posted by: Android Spartan
because what happened in DC will happen across the country.

It's funny to think if you didn't have the right to bear arms in the constitution non of you would give a dam about gun control.


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Posted by: SmD x MaYHeM x

Posted by: lime013

Posted by: I Judge Bread I
I live in the UK, if I wanted to own a gun then it would have to be a rifle or shotgun for hunting, I would have a background check done and be interviewed by the police in order to be issued with a license which I would need to renew every year.

I would also have to have a secure gun case and store the bullets separately to the weapon, if I were going hunting/gun club etc then I would have a number to call at my local police station to notify them where I'm going with my gun and I wouldn't be authorized to deviate from my route.

Even in the UK you can own a gun, but we have laws restricting their distribution and use, therefore we don't have a gun problem like the US.
I like these laws; they're sensible.

No, they're not. Not for a country that already has 260,000,000 guns in it. It would be logistically impossible, not to mention a huge waste of police time and resources. This is why anyone not a citizen living in the US should not be allowed an opinion on US laws. You don't live here or know what it's really like. You come here for a vacation and watch the news, but you haven't lived like we do.

Guns are not a problem. The mental health, and healthcare, of the country is the problem.
For England they are. And yes, guns should stay and we do need to focus on mental health.

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Posted by: Gaara444
Because banning guns is the right thing to do right?

And of course we care because it's in The Constitution. I'll give you a little U.S. Government lesson: The U.S. Constitution is The Supreme Law of The Land here. Nothing is above those pieces of paper that make up the Constitution. Yet we have all these Anti-Gun enthusiasts that seem to think we can just ignore the most powerful authority in the country just because they think "It's only some paper".

Posted by: Android Spartan
because what happened in DC will happen across the country.

It's funny to think if you didn't have the right to bear arms in the constitution non of you would give a dam about gun control.
Im not saying ban them outright im saying actually regulate them. Watch this.

That is the thing that needs to stop and like I said on page 1 give every home a gun provided by the government with proper training, or limit guns to farmers and those who go hunting no one else should have guns with that.

Also you linked from 2008 2012 versiontAlso we are actively trying to prevent it.

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  • 12.22.2012 8:57 AM PDT

But what about people who live in bad neighborhoods and want some self defense? What about the people who own guns purely for recreational purposes? Gun don't need any more regulations, we need to regulate the people who want guns. I don't believe the average Joe should be denied a gun when he only wants one for the sake of wanting one.

Posted by: Android Spartan
That is the thing that needs to stop and like I said on page 1 give every home a gun provided by the government with proper training, or limit guns to farmers and those who go hunting no one else should have guns with that.

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Posted by: Gaara444
But what about people who live in bad neighborhoods and want some self defense? What about the people who own guns purely for recreational purposes? Gun don't need any more regulations, we need to regulate the people who want guns. I don't believe the average Joe should be denied a gun when he only wants one for the sake of wanting one.

Posted by: Android Spartan
That is the thing that needs to stop and like I said on page 1 give every home a gun provided by the government with proper training, or limit guns to farmers and those who go hunting no one else should have guns with that.
People in a bad neighbourhood want a gun to protect themselves from somebody else with a gun and that just escalates.

What's wrong with a good ol fist fight these days?

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Pffft. Hollywood.

  • 12.22.2012 9:03 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

They don't really care, they just want more attention.

Also the NRA is the "PETA" of gun rights.

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Posted by: Android Spartan

Posted by: Gaara444
But what about people who live in bad neighborhoods and want some self defense? What about the people who own guns purely for recreational purposes? Gun don't need any more regulations, we need to regulate the people who want guns. I don't believe the average Joe should be denied a gun when he only wants one for the sake of wanting one.

Posted by: Android Spartan
That is the thing that needs to stop and like I said on page 1 give every home a gun provided by the government with proper training, or limit guns to farmers and those who go hunting no one else should have guns with that.
People in a bad neighbourhood want a gun to protect themselves from somebody else with a gun and that just escalates.

What's wrong with a good ol fist fight these days?
Because we don't live in the 19th century anymore. And there were even duels back then.

  • 12.22.2012 9:05 AM PDT

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-Sir Winston Churchill

The Secret Society 95% of activity is me, I could use some help.

Who cares? Celebrities hold no more power than average people.

  • 12.22.2012 9:06 AM PDT
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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.

Because we have a lot of drug addicts and gang members that will do anything for a quick fix/buck, including steal a gun and proceed to shoot and rob someone. The gun is the great equalizer. It's been that way in the US since the dawn of our country. A bunch of settlers, using guns, fought off what was the strongest military in the world at the time. Guns are a part of our culture and history. They were used to create our history. That's why we love guns. We've had them from the beginning.

They're a part of American culture.
They're used for protection.
They're used for recreational purposes.
They're used to put meat on the table.

There is nothing inherently bad about them, or anything else. Every tool and object is only as dangerous as the operator is violent, imaginative, and sick.
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Posted by: Gaara444
But what about people who live in bad neighborhoods and want some self defense? What about the people who own guns purely for recreational purposes? Gun don't need any more regulations, we need to regulate the people who want guns. I don't believe the average Joe should be denied a gun when he only wants one for the sake of wanting one.

Posted by: Android Spartan
That is the thing that needs to stop and like I said on page 1 give every home a gun provided by the government with proper training, or limit guns to farmers and those who go hunting no one else should have guns with that.
People in a bad neighbourhood want a gun to protect themselves from somebody else with a gun and that just escalates.

What's wrong with a good ol fist fight these days?

  • 12.22.2012 9:06 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


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Who cares? Celebrities hold no more power than average people.


Yeah but they have the power to influence many dumb people

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For all questions with answers unknown to you, the proper procedure is to assume the answer is peanut butter.

While that may be true, I'm just going to pretend otherwise.


Posted by: Jiggleslinky
Who cares? Celebrities hold no more power than average people.

They have more than you think. Unfortunately, common sense is uncommon, and not everyone has the ability to think for themselves.

  • 12.22.2012 9:08 AM PDT