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Subject: I like Halo 4, but Reach was the pinnacle of Halo.
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Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Halo 4's forge and customs are amazing. Forge mode has 3 worlds, each with different themes. Customs are only somewhat limited with flood mode, because you can't customize the weapons the flood have. Otherwise, many right steps were taken.


The fact that the maps are so small and so limiting with kills zones is a huge turn off. There's no reason we can't go around the entire island of Ravine or even touch the ocean.


The maps are not that small. Compared to forge world they are, but they are perfect for players to express their imaginations. Just look at the maps people have come up with!

  • 12.22.2012 12:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Dead FallingCP

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Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Halo 4's forge and customs are amazing. Forge mode has 3 worlds, each with different themes. Customs are only somewhat limited with flood mode, because you can't customize the weapons the flood have. Otherwise, many right steps were taken.
it is like a sliver of forge halo reach had. Custins are terrible in halo 4. You can't even create a race game type for example.


Explain the forge mode part, and I'm sorry you can't play as a mostly aesthetic lizard man.
Implying I care about not playing an elite the settings are garbage many game types were removed. The maps are much smaller. They should have created 3 forge worlds since the multiplayer was 8 gb anyways. I blame developer laziness.

  • 12.22.2012 12:54 PM PDT


Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Halo 4's forge and customs are amazing. Forge mode has 3 worlds, each with different themes. Customs are only somewhat limited with flood mode, because you can't customize the weapons the flood have. Otherwise, many right steps were taken.


The fact that the maps are so small and so limiting with kills zones is a huge turn off. There's no reason we can't go around the entire island of Ravine or even touch the ocean.


The maps are not that small. Compared to forge world they are, but they are perfect for players to express their imaginations. Just look at the maps people have come up with!
I'll get right on that as soon as file browser works oh wait.

  • 12.22.2012 12:55 PM PDT

Whats the answer to Number 2? BLAHHHH!!!!!! Ok....... BLAH...

My order would have to be this:

Campaign (Story)
ODST>2>CE>3>4>Reach
Odst's story was impeccable, congrats to Joe Staten. I loved every second of it but it did lack in gameplay. And Halo 2 was also very good. I remember hating the developers after me and my friend beat it for the first time because of the ending, but that's what stuck with you. It made you think about it, and I came back wanting more for 3. CE was the first and set a standard but did lack in many parts. 3 was kind of disappointing at first but ended with a bang and was a great way to end the trilogy. But 4 was just incoherent and I disliked it. They expanded too much on what a lot of core gamers had no idea existed and was genuinely hard to follow. Reach ended with a horrible denouement of killing off all of the main characters.

Campaign (Gameplay)
3>2>4>ODST>CE>Reach
3 was the peak of perfection and a result of 7 years of amazing games in both gameplay and multiplayer. It didn't mess with the formula of Halo 2 but rather improved on it. Halo 2's level metropolis is probably the most memorable Halo experience I have. It has an incredibly great level design and is overall fun. 4 was very fun but there was a lot of pressing B to push buttons everywhere. ODST I didn't really enjoy. Looking for you other squad mates in a city alone was a mediocre idea at best. CE would be higher if not for the level the library. Those who've played CE know exactly what I mean. Reach was very disappointing when I played it. They tried adding a Crimson Skies-esque mission which could have been cool if they expanded on the idea. Plus the armor abilities didn't help at all in the campaign which was a disappointment.

Musical Score
ODST>3>2>CE>4>Reach
ODST went in a different direction than the other games and in my opinion it succeeded. I love the 1950's detective feel that Difference for Darkness gives. Halo 3's score was very good. It improved on Halo 2's already pretty good song by adding songs like Never Forget. Many people think of the hard-rocking Mjlonir Mix that made Halo 2's score very popular with core gamers. I have to agree with this general statement. CE introduced a great basis that would be used for 7 years. 4 was excellent but has very good older brothers that it needed to compete with that it just didn't match up to. My favorite is Arrival from the Halo 4 OST. Reach sounded very exotic and I didn't enjoy it very much.

Multiplayer
3>2>CE(lol Lan parties)>ODST>4>Reach
Halo 3's multiplayer was impeccable! I couldn't get enough of it. It rewarded players for playing well, not just participating and it showcased true skill. 2 was indeed a milestone and introduced the online world of Xbox it deathmatch-esque online play. I going to my friend's house every weekend to play CE on his xbox. We'd get everyone in the surrounding are with an xbox and set them up in his living room and just play and play on sidewinder. ODST had so much potential online but because there was no matchmaking system it failed. When I first got Halo 4 I loved it, but when a lot of core gamers bought it and started playing online and OVERusing the power weapons I began to tire of being blown to smithereens by the incineration cannon. And finally Reach ruined the multiplayer. It added an unneeded rock paper scissors mechanic with armor abilities and added a pacing mechanism (bloom) to a fast paced game

Custom Games
3>2>Reach>4
Halo 3 had by far the best custom games. I remember getting in huge lobbies of 16 people and playing Ice Cream Man or Sacrifice. 2 had the core ideas that made 3 so great but it was very experimental, having been the only halo game to have live when it came out. I never really got into custom games in either Reach or 4 so I don't have much to say about them

Forge
3>4>Reach
Halo 3 had the best forge simply because not just anyone could forge. The Halo 3 Forger was an artist who could weave his ideas into maps using geomerging, a highly exploited glitch. Both Halo 4 and Reach made forging too easy and I lost respect for most forgers in Reach. The only reason 4 is above reach is because of the shading that happens when you change from editor to spartan, however tedious.

[Edited on 12.22.2012 1:15 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2012 12:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.

Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys

  • 12.22.2012 12:58 PM PDT
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3 > 2 > CE > Reach > 4

  • 12.22.2012 12:59 PM PDT

The war has just begun....

  • 12.22.2012 12:59 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?

People actually put Halo 3's forge above Reach? lol

As much as Reach got wrong, it at least got that right.

  • 12.22.2012 12:59 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: RustedEdge
Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys
Reach is teh best.

  • 12.22.2012 12:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Posted by: RustedEdge
Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys
Reach is teh best.

  • 12.22.2012 1:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
People actually put Halo 3's forge above Reach? lol


REACH ISN'T ALLOWED TO BE GOOD.

rabblerabblerabblerabble

  • 12.22.2012 1:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Life is a journey, if you spend all of it with your nose in your map, you may miss some of the best parts.


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: RustedEdge
Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys
Reach is teh best.


Anyone who seriously believes that it is the best, anyway...

  • 12.22.2012 1:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: XDomofiedX
Reach ended with a horrible deus ex machina of killing off all of the main characters.


You spent so much time posting something that's so misinformed and dumb, but what I quoted is by far the stupidest.

Do you even know what a deus ex machina is? Don't just spout fancy words you don't know the meaning of, hoping to sound smart.

  • 12.22.2012 1:01 PM PDT


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Posted by: RustedEdge
Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys
halo 4 Is teh best and takes lots of skill

  • 12.22.2012 1:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Halo 4's forge and customs are amazing. Forge mode has 3 worlds, each with different themes. Customs are only somewhat limited with flood mode, because you can't customize the weapons the flood have. Otherwise, many right steps were taken.
it is like a sliver of forge halo reach had. Custins are terrible in halo 4. You can't even create a race game type for example.


Explain the forge mode part, and I'm sorry you can't play as a mostly aesthetic lizard man.
Implying I care about not playing an elite the settings are garbage many game types were removed. The maps are much smaller. They should have created 3 forge worlds since the multiplayer was 8 gb anyways. I blame developer laziness.


Oh because two game types going away makes the entire game garbage. Why not try customizing the new ones instead of whining about the absence of older ones? Map design also is a huge pain, so I can understand 3 medium-large sized worlds. The file browser not working is an issue that was never intended to happen, so hating on the game for it is stupid.

  • 12.22.2012 1:01 PM PDT

Posted by: aBlueBookshelf
Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Posted by: RustedEdge
Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys
halo 4 Is teh best and takes lots of skill
AK Frost: Killing jokes since 2010.

  • 12.22.2012 1:02 PM PDT

Sometimes I am tempted to quit gaming. I can no longer play without seeing ponyphags, horrendously bad teammates and mexicans.

Gaming community, I want you to know that you suck.

Autism or troll?

Good chance of both, I'd say.

  • 12.22.2012 1:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Gh0st is Bad

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Gh0st is Bad
Posted by: RustedEdge
Liking Reach is one thing, but thinking it was the best is a different thing.

kys
halo 4 Is teh best and takes lots of skill
AK Frost: Killing jokes since 2010.

  • 12.22.2012 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Connor CMC
Autism or troll?

Good chance of both, I'd say.


lmao good one

[Edited on 12.22.2012 1:04 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2012 1:04 PM PDT

Whats the answer to Number 2? BLAHHHH!!!!!! Ok....... BLAH...


Posted by: Vines Wrap

Posted by: XDomofiedX
Reach ended with a horrible deus ex machina of killing off all of the main characters.


You spent so much time posting something that's so misinformed and dumb, but what I quoted is by far the stupidest.

Do you even know what a deus ex machina is? Don't just spout fancy words you don't know the meaning of, hoping to sound smart.

I actually meant to say des neu moines or something like that but I had no idea how to spell it

  • 12.22.2012 1:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: XDomofiedX

Posted by: Vines Wrap

Posted by: XDomofiedX
Reach ended with a horrible deus ex machina of killing off all of the main characters.


You spent so much time posting something that's so misinformed and dumb, but what I quoted is by far the stupidest.

Do you even know what a deus ex machina is? Don't just spout fancy words you don't know the meaning of, hoping to sound smart.

I actually meant to say des neu moines or something like that but I had no idea how to spell it


Lol what you just said isn't even a phrase.

And also nice lie, deus ex machina is a specific spelling you knew exactly what you're saying, you're just ignorant in that you have no idea what you're talking about.

  • 12.22.2012 1:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Vines Wrap
Posted by: XDomofiedX
Posted by: Vines Wrap

Posted by: XDomofiedX
Reach ended with a horrible deus ex machina of killing off all of the main characters.


You spent so much time posting something that's so misinformed and dumb, but what I quoted is by far the stupidest.

Do you even know what a deus ex machina is? Don't just spout fancy words you don't know the meaning of, hoping to sound smart.

I actually meant to say des neu moines or something like that but I had no idea how to spell it


Lol what you just said isn't even a phrase.

And also nice lie, deus ex machina is a specific spelling you knew exactly what you're saying, you're just ignorant in that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Checkmate.

  • 12.22.2012 1:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Vines Wrap
Posted by: XDomofiedX
Posted by: Vines Wrap

Posted by: XDomofiedX
Reach ended with a horrible deus ex machina of killing off all of the main characters.


You spent so much time posting something that's so misinformed and dumb, but what I quoted is by far the stupidest.

Do you even know what a deus ex machina is? Don't just spout fancy words you don't know the meaning of, hoping to sound smart.

I actually meant to say des neu moines or something like that but I had no idea how to spell it


Lol what you just said isn't even a phrase.

And also nice lie, deus ex machina is a specific spelling you knew exactly what you're saying, you're just ignorant in that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Checkmate.

  • 12.22.2012 1:09 PM PDT


Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Dead FallingCP

Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: Dead FallingCP
Halo 4's forge and customs are amazing. Forge mode has 3 worlds, each with different themes. Customs are only somewhat limited with flood mode, because you can't customize the weapons the flood have. Otherwise, many right steps were taken.


The fact that the maps are so small and so limiting with kills zones is a huge turn off. There's no reason we can't go around the entire island of Ravine or even touch the ocean.


The maps are not that small. Compared to forge world they are, but they are perfect for players to express their imaginations. Just look at the maps people have come up with!
I'll get right on that as soon as file browser works oh wait.

  • 12.22.2012 1:09 PM PDT

Whats the answer to Number 2? BLAHHHH!!!!!! Ok....... BLAH...


Posted by: boomdeyadah
Posted by: Vines Wrap
Posted by: XDomofiedX
Posted by: Vines Wrap

Posted by: XDomofiedX
Reach ended with a horrible deus ex machina of killing off all of the main characters.


You spent so much time posting something that's so misinformed and dumb, but what I quoted is by far the stupidest.

Do you even know what a deus ex machina is? Don't just spout fancy words you don't know the meaning of, hoping to sound smart.

I actually meant to say des neu moines or something like that but I had no idea how to spell it


Lol what you just said isn't even a phrase.

And also nice lie, deus ex machina is a specific spelling you knew exactly what you're saying, you're just ignorant in that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Checkmate.

Denouement! Thats what I meant.

  • 12.22.2012 1:14 PM PDT