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Subject: I like Halo 4, but Reach was the pinnacle of Halo.

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  • 12.22.2012 1:20 PM PDT

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Halo: Reach
Halo 3
Halo ODST

Reach was fun.

  • 12.22.2012 1:21 PM PDT

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Reach was fun, but I wasn't too big a fan of both the firefight maps AND the multiplayer maps being simple rips from the campaign. I did enjoy Forge World as well as the Installation 04 firefight map (friendly AIs ftw!), but ultimately, I enjoyed it far less than Halo CE and Halo 3/ODST

  • 12.22.2012 1:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tyrant122312
Reach was fun, but I wasn't too big a fan of both the firefight maps AND the multiplayer maps being simple rips from the campaign. I did enjoy Forge World as well as the Installation 04 firefight map (friendly AIs ftw!), but ultimately, I enjoyed it far less than Halo CE and Halo 3/ODST


If I recall correctly though the maps were made first and then put in Campaign. They were made with multiplayer in mind.

  • 12.22.2012 1:24 PM PDT

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I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.

  • 12.22.2012 1:26 PM PDT

Hello, Community!

Hopefully if you're reading this, it's because you're interesting in kicking your campaign experience up a notch by cranking up the Legendary with all skulls activated :-) Need advice? A guide? Maybe even a friendly community to cheer you on and help guide you through the process? Then give our Mythic thread a read, and Godspeed on your Mythic journey!

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
Reach was fun, but I wasn't too big a fan of both the firefight maps AND the multiplayer maps being simple rips from the campaign. I did enjoy Forge World as well as the Installation 04 firefight map (friendly AIs ftw!), but ultimately, I enjoyed it far less than Halo CE and Halo 3/ODST


If I recall correctly though the maps were made first and then put in Campaign. They were made with multiplayer in mind.


Even still, I personally wasn't a fan of having the scenarios integrated in with one another. I like my experiences to be different rather than have them mirror each other. I enjoyed the Halo 3 maps more :)

  • 12.22.2012 1:26 PM PDT

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Reach was craptacular.

  • 12.22.2012 1:27 PM PDT


Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.
Ignorance is bliss.

  • 12.22.2012 1:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.
Ignorance is bliss.


I love how you constantly insult me for my opinions. Either post something intelligent or just leave.

  • 12.22.2012 1:28 PM PDT

OP is definitely less than 12 years old.

  • 12.22.2012 1:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tyrant122312

Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Reach was fun, but I wasn't too big a fan of both the firefight maps AND the multiplayer maps being simple rips from the campaign. I did enjoy Forge World as well as the Installation 04 firefight map (friendly AIs ftw!), but ultimately, I enjoyed it far less than Halo CE and Halo 3/ODST


If I recall correctly though the maps were made first and then put in Campaign. They were made with multiplayer in mind.


Even still, I personally wasn't a fan of having the scenarios integrated in with one another. I like my experiences to be different rather than have them mirror each other. I enjoyed the Halo 3 maps more :)


I imagine you're not a fan of Halo 4's decision to integrate everything as canon, right?

  • 12.22.2012 1:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.
Ignorance is bliss.


I love how you constantly insult me for my opinions. Either post something intelligent or just leave.

Countering stupidity with stupidity is the only way to make you understand.

  • 12.22.2012 1:30 PM PDT
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Reach's custom games were in no way better then Halo 3's. Halo 3 was a game that actually had good maps. 95% of Reach's maps -blam!- sucked.

  • 12.22.2012 1:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Aang the Avatar

Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.
Ignorance is bliss.


I love how you constantly insult me for my opinions. Either post something intelligent or just leave.

Countering stupidity with stupidity is the only way to make you understand.


Gee you're so intelligent and much better than me for constantly insulting me for my opinions on a video game.

  • 12.22.2012 1:32 PM PDT

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Reach has a lot of problems but its fun and pretty well-made. Playing Invasion in Reach is engaging, entertaining and often tough hard work. H4 just never gives me anything, no drama, no tension and no memories.

It's just utterly soulless.

  • 12.22.2012 1:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamedude
Reach has a lot of problems but its fun and pretty well-made. Playing Invasion in Reach is engaging, entertaining and often tough hard work. H4 just never gives me anything, no drama, no tension and no memories.

It's just utterly soulless.


I miss Invasion as well.

  • 12.22.2012 1:34 PM PDT

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I just couldn't get over how big of a disappointment Reach was. Everyone (I knew at least), was expecting these massive battles with squads of SPARTAN IIs going through and crushing the covenant and doing all of this other cool stuff like in the novel Fall of Reach. But no, it was a story abut 6 or however many Spartan IIIs and seeing how fast and cool they could die. Which was an awful campaign choice. Gameplay was rather bland, in my opinion. I am also not a fan of armor abilities.

And finally, I just feel like Bungie and the community werent as involved with Reach. I had WAY better forge and custom memories from 3 than from Reach.

  • 12.22.2012 1:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.

What's so good about Halo 3? The campaign was pretty bad (it was short, very easy and easily the worst storyline after Reach) It's multiplayer was far worse than Halo: CE's or Halo 2's in any area I can think of.

  • 12.22.2012 1:39 PM PDT


Posted by: Aang the Avatar
I'm sure most of you know I love Halo 4. I thought it was a great game and all of you bashing it is silly. I thought it had the best campaign of all Halo's easily.

However, I still am a firm believer that Reach is the pinnacle of Halo. All of you seem to just nitpick strongly on points like Bloom, Armor Lock, etc., but it by far was the most polished and content-filled of all Halo games.

- Campaign was solid. I still think Halo 4's and 2's was better, but the gameplay in Reach's was excellent. Varied missions, atmospheric, fantastic score, and all in all excellent gameplay. I think people are too upset with the story to realize how well the gameplay is. (And please, the story had to be changed a little, it would be impossible to have a good story and gameplay mix based around The Fall of Reach).

- Firefight was excellent. This is a no brainer but people still think ODST's was better for some reason. I didn't realize having more maps, gameplay options, weapons, enemy variety, and matchmaking made it worse? People let their hate for one playlist (Arcadefight) influence their thoughts on the entire idea.

- By far the best Custom Games. I know people insisted that Halo 3's was better, but that's just nostalgia talking. There were so many gamemodes and so much customization in Reach, you could do literally whatever you wanted for custom games. There were so many excellent Custom Games for Reach. The excellent Forge World was amazing as well. People hate on it for (derrrr Gray World), but any good Forger can make maps looks amazing.

I'm saddened that Halo 4 has removed so much custom options as well as having limiting Forge maps.


Discuss what you guys think of as the best Halo game. My order?

Reach > Halo 2 > Halo 4 > Halo CE > Halo 3
(Based on combinations of everything, like campaign, customs, matchmaking, etc.)
Ok start from the top. Halo reaches campaign was quite
Linear. I have yet to play any game prelude that I find exciting. I most likely will feel the same about the new gears game. The characters in the campaign were dull and after I played it once I had no reason to touch it again except for slaso. Replayabilty is a huge part of campaign modes for
Me it just simply wasn't there. Firefight I have no complaints. All original maps not dull like spec ops. Again custom games and forge were good minus the fact forge
World was the only palette. You talked about the upsides but forget to mention the negative points. Multiplayer in itself. While I agree that default it isn't near as luck based as halo 4 compared to previous games is was much worse. Bloom was mainly connection based much more noticeable than bullet spread from halo 3. There was no individual skill gap, and you had to rely on your team majority of the time. There was no trueskill in halo reach. Armor lock slowed gameplay and created a cod style
Camping gameplay. So while I can agree halo 5 is much worse than reach. Reach wasn't very good itself limiting the trueskill system, arena being a failed playlist.343 taking out most dlc maps customers paid for. Halo is changing and I have given up on trying to understand why these changes were implemented in both games. The thing that saved reach a bit was reach Mlg but again it was about team skill not individual skill.

  • 12.22.2012 1:40 PM PDT


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Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.

What's so good about Halo 3? The campaign was pretty bad (it was short, very easy and easily the worst storyline after Reach) It's multiplayer was far worse than Halo: CE's or Halo 2's in any area I can think of.
I can name tons of things minus the spread br. Button combos.

  • 12.22.2012 1:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Aang the Avatar
Posted by: flamedude
Reach has a lot of problems but its fun and pretty well-made. Playing Invasion in Reach is engaging, entertaining and often tough hard work. H4 just never gives me anything, no drama, no tension and no memories.

It's just utterly soulless.


I miss Invasion as well.


It's still there in Reach and its still running right now my friend. I feel no urge whatsoever to play H4 so I've been playing a lot of Reach recently, especially Invasion, and its actually been fun. I can remember what happened in the game I just played and the memory isn't instantly unmemorable!

Hooray!

  • 12.22.2012 1:41 PM PDT

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What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.

ITT: People having a hard time explaining why the others were better than Halo Reach, while Aang can explain why Reach was better without a problem.

[Edited on 12.22.2012 1:43 PM PST]

  • 12.22.2012 1:41 PM PDT

I have no idea what they're saying....Smile and nod.

Halo 4 is my current favourite. I have enjoyed every Halo (apart from Wars) though its a shame I never got to try Halo 2's online.

  • 12.22.2012 1:42 PM PDT


Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
ITT: People having a hard time explaining why the others were better than Halo Reach, while Aang can explain why Reach was better without a problem.
can't be serious. There were so many problem how could teaches multiplayer be better than halo 2/3 for example? Halo 3 had a working ranking system that was for casuals and competetive players alike. Reach had A very small trueskill implemented for team play limiting individual skill. Reach had broken elements like bloom and armor lock adding randomness and slowing kill times. Reach had a good forge boring campaign great customs and decent firefight.

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  • 12.22.2012 1:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: AK FROST

Posted by: Pahat Pojat

Posted by: flamedude
I have no idea how you managed to rank H3 as the worst Halo. H2 has a terrible Campaign, H4 has the worst multiplayer. H3 is, for me, probably the best all-around Halo game of them all.

What's so good about Halo 3? The campaign was pretty bad (it was short, very easy and easily the worst storyline after Reach) It's multiplayer was far worse than Halo: CE's or Halo 2's in any area I can think of.
I can name tons of things minus the spread br. Button combos.

Like what? Better maps? lol. Better movement or strafe? lol. More skill? lol. Better custom games? lol.

  • 12.22.2012 1:45 PM PDT