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Subject: Why is "feminist" such a dirty word, anyway?

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.

I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike. Surely any compassionate person should want that, so shouldn't they all be feminists by default? But I've seen that word thrown around like it's a grave insult - both by people using it to insult other people (e.g. "wow, what are you complaining about, you're like some kind of feminist") and people on the receiving end ("I'm not a feminist just because I believe in [blank]!"). What's the deal there? I would identify myself as a feminist. Wouldn't anyone who wants people to be treated equally do the same?

  • 12.22.2012 7:47 PM PDT

I make a living of selling my body, and I don't mean sex.


Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


>Feminists
>Equal Rights

Pick one.

  • 12.22.2012 7:48 PM PDT


Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.

  • 12.22.2012 7:48 PM PDT

Because some of them believe that all their problems come from men

  • 12.22.2012 7:49 PM PDT

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I already know where this thread will go. I also know that the OP also knew and is wanting it.

  • 12.22.2012 7:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.

Pretty much this.

Women are more equal than men

  • 12.22.2012 7:49 PM PDT

I make a living of selling my body, and I don't mean sex.


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.
This is pretty much what I was getting at in my post.

  • 12.22.2012 7:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: DatDudeBV
Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.
No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.
Happens more often than not. They have plenty of rights already.

  • 12.22.2012 7:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.
Do they? Can you cite examples?

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Because feminists are generally retarded.

  • 12.22.2012 7:50 PM PDT


Posted by: DatDudeBV

Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.

For the most part this is true. Though there are a fair amount that want equal rights there are more that just want more rights than men. Now you can say that they are misusing the term feminist, but that is really just a formality.

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Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


Then why does the name imply support towards women but not men?

  • 12.22.2012 7:52 PM PDT
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Oh, Jay. You're going to get double the crap now.

  • 12.22.2012 7:53 PM PDT

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Whole lotta broadbrushin' ITT.

  • 12.22.2012 7:53 PM PDT

I don't care if its bad or not. Some think that being a feminist is good but the word just sounds bad. It's like the word murderer. No matter how you use it, its gonna sound bad.

  • 12.22.2012 7:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Zanir
Oh, Jay. You're going to get double the crap now.

I don't see how this would change people's view of Jay.

  • 12.22.2012 7:56 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Some unsavory groups have associated themselves with the word and eventually come to be the main group associated with the word in the minds of most people when they hear it as well.

  • 12.22.2012 7:57 PM PDT

Find a better term for it. Feminist sounds so anti male.

  • 12.22.2012 7:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurosaki_Kun

I know, right?
Jay acts like she's better than everyone else simply because she's a chick.
I hope she chokes to death.


Posted by: Zanir
Oh, Jay. You're going to get double the crap now.
If people want to hate on me because I support women's rights, they're quite welcome to. That's a reflection on them and their values, not on me and mine.

I am unashamedly in support of women's rights, PoC rights, LGBT rights, the rights of the disabled, and the rights of any other disenfranchised groups in society. I donate my money to those causes and volunteer my time and effort in support of them. I don't care who knows it, and I don't care what they think of me because of it. People dislike me for plenty of illegitimate reasons already. If they want to add this to the list, they can be my guest.

  • 12.22.2012 8:00 PM PDT
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  • 12.22.2012 8:01 PM PDT
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Actual definition of the word "feminist".

  • 12.22.2012 8:01 PM PDT

It isn't, but some of the connotations are.

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Posted by: Dragonzzilla
Posted by: DatDudeBV
Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.
No, modern feminists want women to have more rights than men.
Happens more often than not. They have plenty of rights already.

There's still inequality in the workplace, in the mind.

Women still get paid less than men on average, we still crack jokes telling girls to get back into the kitchen to make us a sandwich.

It's still largely a boys club out there. Possibly due to the nature of the rest of society telling girls that they don't have to be successful or have a deep meaningful personality.

OT: Feminist is a dirty word because radical feminists who want to castrate every man on the planet.

  • 12.22.2012 8:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: jaythenerdkid

Posted by: Zanir
Oh, Jay. You're going to get double the crap now.
If people want to hate on me because I support women's rights, they're quite welcome to. That's a reflection on them and their values, not on me and mine.

I am unashamedly in support of women's rights, PoC rights, LGBT rights, the rights of the disabled, and the rights of any other disenfranchised groups in society. I donate my money to those causes and volunteer my time and effort in support of them. I don't care who knows it, and I don't care what they think of me because of it. People dislike me for plenty of illegitimate reasons already. If they want to add this to the list, they can be my guest.


So would you openly donate to a group called "masculinists" if they represented equality?

  • 12.22.2012 8:03 PM PDT

I agree that there should be equality.

  • 12.22.2012 8:03 PM PDT