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Subject: Why is "feminist" such a dirty word, anyway?


Posted by: CamCamm
It's only a dirty word because of people who lack knowing the definition of it.
Do you honestly believe so?

  • 12.23.2012 6:03 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Oh my god, feminists are so annoying. Why do they want 'equal rights' so bad?

  • 12.23.2012 6:07 AM PDT

Posted by: The Kangol Kid
It was then that I decided he really is like semen(everywhere) and I gave up on life.


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Posted by: AK FROST
Posted by: CamCamm
It's only a dirty word because of people who lack knowing the definition of it.
Do you honestly believe so?
Absolutely.

  • 12.23.2012 6:10 AM PDT
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It's a dirty word because just like any ideology there are people who wish to manipulate it to their own less than noble ends. Most feminists are fine, even if some few are a little sensitive, which doesn't really bother me either; the world is full of touchy people.

  • 12.23.2012 6:18 AM PDT


Posted by: CamCamm
Posted by: AK FROST
Posted by: CamCamm
It's only a dirty word because of people who lack knowing the definition of it.
Do you honestly believe so?
Absolutely.
sociology is an interesting topic.

  • 12.23.2012 6:19 AM PDT
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It's funny, because the "paid less" argument is utter horse-blam!-. When it's stated that women make less than men, it's only after finding the mean of all salaries, by gender. Ergo, job choice is a huge variable. And, as stated by Julie Borowski (in my video), women choose majors (e.g. sociology) that pay much less than many majors men seem to dominate.

  • 12.23.2012 6:58 AM PDT
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lolFeminists

  • 12.23.2012 7:09 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
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Posted by: Elastics
It's funny, because the "paid less" argument is utter horse-blam!-. When it's stated that women make less than men, it's only after finding the mean of all salaries, by gender. Ergo, job choice is a huge variable. And, as stated by Julie Borowski (in my video), women choose majors (e.g. sociology) that pay much less than many majors men seem to dominate.


You should try reading this thread.

  • 12.23.2012 7:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Elastics
It's funny, because the "paid less" argument is utter horse-blam!-. When it's stated that women make less than men, it's only after finding the mean of all salaries, by gender. Ergo, job choice is a huge variable. And, as stated by Julie Borowski (in my video), women choose majors (e.g. sociology) that pay much less than many majors men seem to dominate.


You should try reading this thread.


You should try thinking outside the liberal box.

  • 12.23.2012 7:37 AM PDT

I'll make this go 12 pages.

  • 12.23.2012 7:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Elastics
Posted by: Seggi31
Posted by: Elastics
It's funny, because the "paid less" argument is utter horse-blam!-. When it's stated that women make less than men, it's only after finding the mean of all salaries, by gender. Ergo, job choice is a huge variable. And, as stated by Julie Borowski (in my video), women choose majors (e.g. sociology) that pay much less than many majors men seem to dominate.

You should try reading this thread.

You should try thinking outside the liberal box.

You're parodying a really stupid Right-wing Daily Mail reader, right? "The liberal box", that's a good one.

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  • 12.23.2012 8:07 AM PDT


Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike. Surely any compassionate person should want that, so shouldn't they all be feminists by default? But I've seen that word thrown around like it's a grave insult - both by people using it to insult other people (e.g. "wow, what are you complaining about, you're like some kind of feminist") and people on the receiving end ("I'm not a feminist just because I believe in [blank]!"). What's the deal there? I would identify myself as a feminist. Wouldn't anyone who wants people to be treated equally do the same?


Because men are superior. When we were cave people the men hunted whilst the woman cooked and looked after the offspring. It's evolution...

  • 12.23.2012 8:13 AM PDT

"Life to you stepson and everlasting glory. " Thifes World.

Feminist you say ? Groups fight over rights who are a minorty. Sad fact is there is not as much as they think to go around.

Problem is in Westernized or European countries let extremist who think doing good is bad approach. In some countries this is because of Religion,Politics and Environment that have a hard time seeing the role of a woman.

This issue has been going on longer than the word feminist was invented. To Adam and Eve. Equality is how we should be treated.

Every one strives for this yet there will be inequities. fact is life is never fair. Men or women. Yet there are allot of groups out there trying to make a difference.

Feminism is not a dirty word its just how to define it from a individual perspective. Every one has different views.

I try to remain neutral but cannot help but admire females. Male female relationships have been pioneered by those like Doctor Ruth. It was a no no to talk about sex.

Females have rights in every household in America. You can see it on a factual basis. Equality should not be gender specific but it is. Every one has their own version of it.

Some take stands like in the Civil Rights movements. These days females have more opportunities. Society has changed its just those who hold a extremism view have not.

Women should be proud who helped us win one of the greatist wars in history. People settled down. Now these days its hustle bustle. Every ones equal according to the law.

Not all men dislike women. Every guy i have spoke with tell me about divorce. They were in love with a woman so that would in some way make me feminist. We all love our mothers so that too.

We are human. We want to be loved. We want to be respected. Our rights not thrown down. There are many out there who are in real need of help.

I have seen with my own eyes when things go bad how every one helps. There are groups that help those in most need such as Suicide Prevention for both males and females.
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You are opinionated this is good. One should stand up for there rights. Yet associating ones self with a group does throw eyebrows up.

Let me ask this if feminist were in power would you still get everything you wanted ? People in power do not share much if at all.

Remaining neutral i see both sides yet there is no answer except Work in Progress. Male and female relationships are work in progress carried on by there children.

Humans need love is that hidden factor. Blaming others playing a blame game to gain power or favor just means you get sucked into the game. No matter if you are a Feminist or not.

Still in all these posts you have remained defensive. Yet what about live let live. Life is not fair but you can make changes the best you can for injustice.

Still i am trying to define what i am let alone put a label on my self or perpetrating my self on a forum as Feminist. Id rather be a human. Appreciate women for all they are even the bad. I hope they do the same for me being a silly male.


I say this is work in progress and labeling others or putting a label on your self to identify with a group that leads to some sort of political stance shows you despite being a good nature person are saying to push every one aside to justify these beliefs.

Honestly females are just as equal as males even more so. I have never herd of a male totally wining a divorce nor getting a custody of a child.

So being a feminist is more of a inequality at the workplace. Thus feeling there male counterparts are getting the better end of a deal but trust me hes not.(Unless is is makeing quite a sum more)

Truth is life is never fair. No one totally gets what they want. Even those in power so stating thus would happen is a injustice when roles are reversed. As any power holds off those who feel downtrodden.

Feminist or not. Truth is this world is muddled enough with out people labeling themselves. Or letting others label you.

Society defines that word as dirty because of the bad press. That should in no way define you as a person. Nor as some one who legitimately stands up for the rights of any person.

Thus ending this i want to say i gave it a great deal of thought. Just some feminist do cheapen themselves by becoming what they hate. Northing wrong with being female but legitamizeing a cause is far diffrent then standing up for ones Rights.

In the end do we not all want to be loved,respected for who or what we are. Our talents and bad things ?.

One last thing i do hate. Some one pretending to be a Faceless Femnist is in my book just a faceless lie. I dislike lies. It cheapens the topic.

No one needs to share my views. They have every day fact in them.






  • 12.23.2012 8:22 AM PDT
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what the hell

  • 12.23.2012 8:37 AM PDT


Posted by: Ice Penjamin

Posted by: jaythenerdkid
I mean, feminists are just people who want equal rights for women and men alike.


>Feminists
>Equal Rights

Pick one.

  • 12.23.2012 8:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Elegiac
what the hell
Equal Rights ? good luck on playing the political wheel of fortune. As i stated if you can be bothered to read a wall of text.



Flood love to post those i am not political but i am posts.

[Edited on 12.23.2012 8:44 AM PST]

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Posted by: Elegiac
what the hell
Equal Rights ? good luck on playing the political wheel of fortune. As i stated if you can be bothered to read a wall of text.

Flood love to post those i am not political but i am posts.
It gave me a fuzzy feeling in my head. I sorta respect that.

  • 12.23.2012 8:44 AM PDT

"Life to you stepson and everlasting glory. " Thifes World.


Posted by: Elegiac

Posted by: commander tempu

Posted by: Elegiac
what the hell
Equal Rights ? good luck on playing the political wheel of fortune. As i stated if you can be bothered to read a wall of text.

Flood love to post those i am not political but i am posts.
It gave me a fuzzy feeling in my head. I sorta respect that.


Feminist are in line with allot of other groups so yeagh its just droping truth. That light headed feeling is when truth is revealed lol.

  • 12.23.2012 8:48 AM PDT

I prefer the older way of life it just seems to function better. Everyone now just gets divorced three times in one lifetime instead of putting the work into the relationship.

  • 12.23.2012 8:50 AM PDT

Second acct: RC Zerg Rushes

Because feminists are a bunch of misandrists with the largest victim complex I've ever seen who are actively working against both sexes having equal rights.

  • 12.23.2012 8:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Baph117
This is an incredible step forward to being able to cure Downss sybndonre mn humans bineg.s

Posted by: The 13th Arbiter
Because feminists are a bunch of misandrists with the largest victim complex I've ever seen who are actively working against both sexes having equal rights.


I see you've never encountered a feminist before.

  • 12.23.2012 9:09 AM PDT

Things that should be equal:
-pay for the same job for the same amount of work. If you arent performing as well as another person, you shouldnt be paid the same.
-custody rights. At the moment women are more likely to have custody over a kid even id she is not as able as the male. If it is full custody (which it shouldt ever be), the parent who can best provide for the kid should take care of them.
-everyone should be treated the same in court. A crime is a crime. It doesnt matter who you are, if you broke the aw, you should be punished.

These are just some basic things and there is an inequality in each of them. If you honestly think women are oppressed in this age, you are crazy. Just because some things may not go in one genders favor, does not mean they are oppressed. It happens both ways. Im for equality.

  • 12.23.2012 9:13 AM PDT

Almost there.

If you are serious about change then you need to smart with something and work up. So think of something that can be changed and work on it. Can't happen all at once.

  • 12.23.2012 9:20 AM PDT

Derp


Posted by: jaythenerdkid

Posted by: Zealot Tony
People think of it as "dirty" due to the minority of extremests, which give rise to stereotypes. The minority becomes noticeable due to it being exemplified by the media (that'd be my guess), because as you know, the media's job is to report bad news on almost anything that'll seek attention.
The weird thing is, people wouldn't allow the WBC to make Christianity "dirty", but they'll allow Germaine Greer and the like to shape their ideas about feminism. Strange, right?
not at all. Many are Christians, fewer are feminists, as well as many Christians speak out against the WBC.

  • 12.23.2012 9:23 AM PDT

I'm happily scrolling through the thread, learning about both sides of the issue when I see this:
Posted by: Eternal Moon


mfw

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  • 12.23.2012 9:45 AM PDT