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Subject: How would you fix Halo 4

"Through the fog the army moves on. Pushing through borders. Knocking over obstacles. Killing all enemies. Victory is secured, brothers, march on until the flag rises over the landscape."
The Holy Council

Posted by: Mikelp_1
Never develop it in the first place.

Posted by: Mikelp_1
Never develop it in the first place.

Posted by: Mikelp_1
Never develop it in the first place.


Few more.

Posted by: Mikelp_1
Never develop it in the first place.

Posted by: Mikelp_1
Never develop it in the first place.

  • 12.22.2012 11:08 PM PDT

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yorkie


Posted by: Darthbill99
add more custom options, reduce the frequency of ordinance drops, add a classic slayer playlist for the purists (not that they would accept it), add campaign scoring and theater, bring back a skull hunt, nerf the boltshot, nerf the DMR.


i agree with this also
yorkie

  • 12.22.2012 11:09 PM PDT

real gamertag is mvyorkie009

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yorkie


Posted by: Sliding Ghost
General changes:

-campaign theater, scoring, film rendering, upload to YouTube
-revert supply case, comm node, and lookout tower to Halo 3
-Chief has better jump height, better traction. Can easily push marines around by running into them
-our weapons appear in the cutscene (or this is enabled by a skull)
-on some levels, weapons carry over to the next mission
-marines at the holdout fight receive waypoints over their heads a la Reach

Dawn:
-on Legendary, instead of cryotube sequence, skip to cutscene
-on Legendary, instead of prying the door open, it's already open and sucks you in when you approach, triggering a cutscene featuring Chief climbing up the elevator
-on Legendary, Chief does not get ambushed. Instead, the sword Elite patrols the area
-on Heroic, the boarding battle is a wave battle a la Cairo Station's hangar fights
-an easter egg makes all the Elites on this level spawn as Zealots, some having active camo

Requiem:
-timed/infinite/repeteable checkpoints occur at the pass (before the investigate Forerunner structure objective appears on the HUD)
-defeating the 8 Elite snipers rewards you with marines
-Scarab gun esque weapon can be found on the map

Forerunner:
-the Ghost run has a timer a la The Maw run

Infinity:
-rally point charlie has you start off with a power weapon a la Delta Halo and The Covenant

Reclaimer:
-Scarab gun esque weapon found out of the map
-less soft kill zones

Shutdown:
-rally point alpha features a lot of movable scenery, marines and Spartans can be pushed, vehicle turrets can be operated

Composer:
-an easter egg makes all the Elites on this level spawn as Rangers with swords

Midnight:
-more boxes on the level for insane box launching (a la Floodgate)


i agree with this
yorkie

  • 12.22.2012 11:14 PM PDT

real gamertag is mvyorkie009

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yorkie

i know its not going to to happen but i wish people form 343 i would come look at our threads were the real halo fan boys are at so they could fix the game...just saying
yorkie

  • 12.22.2012 11:16 PM PDT

Why Bungie, why would you do this?! - Halo Community


Posted by: Sliding Ghost


So...I see you've had time to think.

I would:
-Remove or change Spartan Ops to make it less incredibly boring.
-Remove "update lighting" while in Forge
-No loadouts
-BR starts in all maps
-Weapons on map; we seriously need this now, are they seriously trying force this ordinance stuff on us this hard.
- Remove random ordinance, I would keep initial ordnance if you could actually change the ammo on the weapon it produced.
-Make fileshare work?
- Remove half of Halo 4's maps altogether, and replace them with now varied community maps.
-Remove all Promethian weapons but Lightrifle, Scattershot, and maybe Boltshot, BUT only as a pickup.
- Remove Mantis. Sorry, but it is simply too powerful for anything but heavies or as a neutral power vehicle.
-Remove personal ordinance and damage boost.
- Remove Camo, and maybe PV.
- Add custom powerups.


Posted by: DaViDlIkEsPiE2
if you want halo 3 so badly then go -blam!- play it and stop whining about this game not being a clone of it.


Lulz, I found a fanboy!

[Edited on 12.23.2012 9:37 AM PST]

  • 12.22.2012 11:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Dark Hunter 2100

Posted by: Sliding Ghost


So...I see you've had time to think.

I would:
-Remove or change Spartan Ops to make it less incredibly boring.
-Remove "update lighting" while in Forge
-No loadouts
-BR starts in all maps
-Weapons on map; we seriously need this now, are they seriously trying force this ordinance stuff on us this hard.
- Remove random ordinance, I would keep initial ordnance if you could actually change the ammo on the weapon it produced.
-Make fileshare work?
- Remove half of Halo 4's maps altogether, and replace them with now varied community maps.
-Remove all Promethian weapons but Lightrifle, Scattershot, and maybe Boltshot, BUT only as a pickup.
- Remove Mantis. Sorry, but it is simply too powerful for anything but heavies or as a neutral power vehicle.
-Remove personal ordinance and damage boost.
- Remove Camo, and maybe PV.
- Add custom powerups.
if you want halo 3 so badly then go -blam!- play it and stop whining about this game not being a clone of it.

  • 12.22.2012 11:24 PM PDT

-Seperate between ranked and social
-Remove AAs from ranked
-Remove ordinance from ranked
-Remove loadouts from ranked
-Make weapons static spawns instead of random drops in ranked
-Start everyone out in equal spawns on symmetrical maps (lolhaven)
-Make smaller maps or add in community made maps that aren't big team battle maps and that actually suit a 4 v 4 playlist
-Actually add a decent forge map that has new objects and that isn't incredibly buggy
-Remove zoom flinch and replace it with zoom out after being shot
-Slight buff to the BR to bring it up to the level of the DMR
-Make the Suppressor and Storm Rifle shoot accurately like the AR
-Remove Mantis shield regen
-Keep whatever you like in the social playlists because I couldn't care less

  • 12.22.2012 11:38 PM PDT

Give players mics.

  • 12.22.2012 11:40 PM PDT
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My only complaint is you can not hear the ghost at all before it splatters you and the boltshot noobs are starting to get out of hand, but that is the fault of noobs really.

  • 12.22.2012 11:50 PM PDT

Posted by: x Foman123 x

Posted by: TH3_AV3NG3R
What house has a rocket pod, has legs, and has a long narrow barrel that probably shoots something powerful?

Sounds like you're describing the lower half of my body, actually.

I also want Spartan ops to have limited lives and scoring. It is a borefest otherwise.

  • 12.23.2012 12:03 AM PDT

Hey, B.net

i'm a nice guy, doesn't troll and loves Bungie. I enjoy playing video games, usualy shooters and a bit of horror , Dead Space, Halo, Gears of War, Halo, Battlefeild, did i mention Halo ? Lol. Anyways, "invest in realestate, always eat breakfast, all the chicks on the internet are ACTUALLY DUDES, and never buy the extended warrenty on anything, EVER !"

sincerely

-Tuckers little accident

...Let Bungie run 343i for a week

  • 12.23.2012 12:08 AM PDT

I write poetry, I write short-stories, I listen to hip-hop (80s&90s), Reggae, Classic Rock n Roll, Heavy Metal, Jazz, Blues, and the 60s, 70s.


Posted by: Garem
I actually just got Halo 4, and it's damn awesome. I'm now convinced that the Flood just hates everything new in a vain attempt to be recognized.

It's goddam phony, is what it is.


This. Halo 4 isn't as bad as people say it is.

  • 12.23.2012 12:09 AM PDT

Hey, B.net

i'm a nice guy, doesn't troll and loves Bungie. I enjoy playing video games, usualy shooters and a bit of horror , Dead Space, Halo, Gears of War, Halo, Battlefeild, did i mention Halo ? Lol. Anyways, "invest in realestate, always eat breakfast, all the chicks on the internet are ACTUALLY DUDES, and never buy the extended warrenty on anything, EVER !"

sincerely

-Tuckers little accident


Posted by: Yakov Sidorov
Halo 4 isn't as bad as people say it is.
ditto, but if I had to pick a worst, Halo 4 takes the cake.

  • 12.23.2012 12:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: tuckers baby
...Let Bungie run 343i for a week


Haha, after Bungie ruined Halo 4 we'd realize how competent 343 has been in comparison. They gave us a beautiful story and a beautiful game.

  • 12.23.2012 12:12 AM PDT

Hey, B.net

i'm a nice guy, doesn't troll and loves Bungie. I enjoy playing video games, usualy shooters and a bit of horror , Dead Space, Halo, Gears of War, Halo, Battlefeild, did i mention Halo ? Lol. Anyways, "invest in realestate, always eat breakfast, all the chicks on the internet are ACTUALLY DUDES, and never buy the extended warrenty on anything, EVER !"

sincerely

-Tuckers little accident


Posted by: Night Watchman

Posted by: tuckers baby
...Let Bungie run 343i for a week


Haha, after Bungie ruined Halo 4 we'd realize how competent 343 has been in comparison. They gave us a beautiful story and a beautiful game.
The only MAJOR improvement between Reach and Halo 4 was the campaign IMO. Otherwise, when Reach hit it was meant to explore new ground, not to be a generic prequel.

Also how can the company that didn't even MAKE a game be responsible for it?

[Edited on 12.23.2012 12:17 AM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 12:15 AM PDT
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Sometimes, I dream about cheese.

* make the sword unsuck
* make the forge worlds as big as Halo Reaches one
* Spartan Ops enabled for offline matches

  • 12.23.2012 12:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: tuckers baby

Posted by: Night Watchman

Posted by: tuckers baby
...Let Bungie run 343i for a week


Haha, after Bungie ruined Halo 4 we'd realize how competent 343 has been in comparison. They gave us a beautiful story and a beautiful game.
The only MAJOR improvement between Reach and Halo 4 was the campaign IMO. Otherwise, when Reach hit it was meant to explore new ground, not to be a generic prequel.


Reach could have been good if it wasn't so lazily slapped together and incomplete. 343 kept and actually fixed it. Everything about Reach was awful.

  • 12.23.2012 12:17 AM PDT

Hey, B.net

i'm a nice guy, doesn't troll and loves Bungie. I enjoy playing video games, usualy shooters and a bit of horror , Dead Space, Halo, Gears of War, Halo, Battlefeild, did i mention Halo ? Lol. Anyways, "invest in realestate, always eat breakfast, all the chicks on the internet are ACTUALLY DUDES, and never buy the extended warrenty on anything, EVER !"

sincerely

-Tuckers little accident


Posted by: Night Watchman

Posted by: tuckers baby

Posted by: Night Watchman

Posted by: tuckers baby
...Let Bungie run 343i for a week


Haha, after Bungie ruined Halo 4 we'd realize how competent 343 has been in comparison. They gave us a beautiful story and a beautiful game.
The only MAJOR improvement between Reach and Halo 4 was the campaign IMO. Otherwise, when Reach hit it was meant to explore new ground, not to be a generic prequel.


Reach could have been good if it wasn't so lazily slapped together and incomplete. 343 kept and actually fixed it. Everything about Reach was awful.
If anything Halo 4 was the one slapped together. Reach had 3 years in the making, '4 took only 1.5/2 years to make.

And KEPT it? Have you taken a look at the matchmaking playlists? Halo 4 has about half as much as reach did.


[Edited on 12.23.2012 12:22 AM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 12:20 AM PDT

Citizens of Me! The cruelty of the old Pharaoh is a thing of the past. Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land.

Hear the word of Pharaoh. Build unto me a statue of ridiculous proportion. One billion cubits in height......that I might be remembered for all eternity!

And be quick about it!

Get rid of ordinance and replace it with normal weapon spawns, increase ammo capacity on all non precision/power weapons, implement Halo 3 style vehicle health, Halo 3 grenades, fix custom game options, expand Forge options, add all gametypes from Halo 3 back in, eliminate recoil on the BR, buff the Carbine to kill one shot faster.

That's what I can think of now. IMO, if these changes were made, Halo 4 would be the best Halo game ever. It's sitting on its potential and not using it, at the moment.

  • 12.23.2012 12:22 AM PDT
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I use a signature because I can


Posted by: Kadoozy
-Seperate between ranked and social
-Remove AAs from ranked
-Remove ordinance from ranked
-Remove loadouts from ranked
-Make weapons static spawns instead of random drops in ranked
-Start everyone out in equal spawns on symmetrical maps (lolhaven)
-Make smaller maps or add in community made maps that aren't big team battle maps and that actually suit a 4 v 4 playlist
-Actually add a decent forge map that has new objects and that isn't incredibly buggy
-Remove zoom flinch and replace it with zoom out after being shot
-Slight buff to the BR to bring it up to the level of the DMR
-Make the Suppressor and Storm Rifle shoot accurately like the AR
-Remove Mantis shield regen
-Keep whatever you like in the social playlists because I couldn't care less

  • 12.23.2012 12:49 PM PDT

If then pen is mightier than the sword, then why do actions speak louder than words?

Most current thread - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76233031
Good for a laugh - http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74028139

Armor Abilities:
Promethean Vision-
Blue outline instead of red. (Similar to seeing a cloaked enemy).
Thruster Pack-
A launch more comparable to Reach's evade, the pro being that it can be used mid-air and the con being it's only able to be used once.
Active Camouflage-
Allow Energy swords to lunge at partially cloaked enemies. (Noticed while playing Flood, I do not know if this applies everywhere.)
Sentry-
Faster Rate of fire so it actually acts as an area of denial armor ability rather than just an annoyance.

Weapons:
Battle Rifle-
Cause more flinch seeing how it shoots three rounds instead of one.
Boltshot-
(Charged)Remove ability to cancel a charge by switching weapons. Remove the ability to hold a charge so it fires immediately after becoming ready. Make it where it only reaches to it's OSK range and dealing no damage after that. (Similar to GoW3's sawed-off shotgun).
Fuel Rod-
Wider angle required for a ricochet, this way it does not bounce when shooting close range targets.
Incineration Cannon-
Make it's secondary cluster bomb explosion non-lethal if only hit by one pellet.
Railgun-
Increased damage to vehicles seeing how railguns are meant for armor piercing. Removal of splash damage.

Vehicles:
Banshee-
Increase Banshee's shielding in exchange for less health so it cannot be permanently damaged by one stubborn DMR player.
Gauss Warthog-
Remove the ability to fire while EMP'ed. It uses electronics for the firing mechanism.

  • 12.23.2012 7:49 PM PDT
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the will to win is the will to destroy

make it so the boltshot is like the GOW3 beta sawn off shotgun (jam down the throat for the instant kill) increase it's single shot damage ever so slightly, increase bloom for precision weapons by a large margin

  • 12.23.2012 7:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: ST0NE COLD
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why a murder train?Well, The Blues revolve around trains, and I'm trying to be Blues-y about it.
I think a t-rex sounds better, I mean Murder T-rex. just think about it.
This made my day.

I would make it so you have to find the skulls to use them.

  • 12.23.2012 7:53 PM PDT

Yes, I know my username is the 330th sequel to a terrible movie. You don't have to keep telling me.

Snow maps
Bigger Forge
More custom options
Nerf Boltshot
buff Shotty and Scattershot

  • 12.23.2012 7:55 PM PDT

So you went to the trouble of clicking on my profile, either to send a group invite or hate message, or to check my Halo stats and call me a BK. I like Peanut Butter Waffles.

-Add the lost custom game options
-Nerf DMR: give more recoil
-Disable Spawning with Boltshot
-Spawn with only 1 grenade
-Make map weapons more consistent, akin to prior Halos
-Bring burst fire back to automatic rifles
-disable spawning with camo, make it an ordinance



[Edited on 12.23.2012 7:57 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 7:56 PM PDT

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