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Subject: Enough with the Halo 2 garbage!
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In my opinion the Halo 2 campaign was the best in the Halo franchise so far. I still play some campaign missions every now and then and still enjoy it very much; I don't see this kind of replayability in any other Halo game. You're right about the ending, but Bungie simply didn't have enough time to finish everything how they wanted.

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Posted by: HundredJono
Oh boo hoo, looks like somebody couldn't get the Scarab Gun.


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  • 12.23.2012 1:12 PM PDT

Agreed 100000%

  • 12.23.2012 1:16 PM PDT

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I love Halo 2.

  • 12.23.2012 1:18 PM PDT
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I do not want to stop asking. I do not ask to stop wanting.


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Posted by: Haloroach
A) Okay, I'll admit I was uninformed about the subject matter. My apologies.

B) Halo 4's core gunplay is still arguably better than Halo 3 and Reach (not ZBNS Reach though). It's consistent (no spread or bloom) and movement is quite well done.

I disagree there are multiple glitches/exploits in Halo 4 due to the poor programming on 343's part. As for no bloom/spread that really doesn't matter all too much in terms of improving/taking away for the gameplay. The same can be said about movement it has been roughly the same since Halo 3 to Halo 4 with the only main difference being faster or slower. The thing is there is more to gameplay than just 2 aspects.


Auto Aim/Bullet Magnetism/Hitboxes: Halo 3 clearly did this best, though again, I haven't seen that comparison video you talked about so I can't talk about Reach. But again, I find the 4 DMR to be leaps and bounds more skillful than the Reach DMR or 3 BR (from practise- again, I haven't watched the video).

Consistency in Gunplay: Halo 4 wins this by far. Halo 3's BR and Carbine spread was very apparent and often disrupted gameplay and Halo Reach's bloom was just, well, lolReachy. Not to mention Halo 3's bullet travel (though I believe bullet travel is good for LAN) was pretty bad for online consistency.

Melee and Grenades: Halo 4 does melee better than 3 and Reach. The melee lunge is greatly decreased from 3, and bleedthrough is back, putting it ahead of default Reach. Grenades are clearly done better than Reach- they're no longer mini nukes (though theoretically this could have just been fixed by making better maps so grenades in general would have been harder to properly place). Halo 3's grenades however, are quite well done, and bouncing seems to work better there.

Movement and Maneuverability: Halo 4's movement settings seem to be around the same as Halo 3 (and leaps and bounds above Reach, even with the TU as movement acceleration doesn't play a role). However in terms of maneuverability, I'm not sure. It's highly dependant on the map design, but Haven seems to have quite a few trick spots and novel jumps- not necessarily saying that it's more than the others (also take into account the others have been explored for a few years whereas 4's has been seen for a few months) but that it's on par.

Glitches: Halo 4 is currently the worst by far for this. Super grenade throws, BXRs (though they seem to do nothing), and potential super jumps (though they've only been tested in Spartan Ops). However, most of these glitches don't generally break gameplay (a la Halo 2).

Armor Abilities: lmao@Halo4andReach. That's all.

I agree there's more to gameplay than just 2 aspects, but if you think about it, those are the two aspects that matter most in 1 V 1 battles.

Core gameplay:

CE>>>4>=3>Reach>2

  • 12.23.2012 1:31 PM PDT

Halo 2 has the best campaign IMO

Diverse environments and missions, great story and storytelling, variety of enemies and weapons and cool aesthetics.

  • 12.23.2012 1:33 PM PDT

I agree completely.

The utter noobification in that game makes it unplayable.

  • 12.23.2012 1:33 PM PDT
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3rd edition. Now with more grunt.

TFS 4 lyfe

Jesus, cant we all just agree Halo is a great series, and leave it at that?

I find it so annoying that this forum all has something in common (a love of Halo), and yet all we ever do is argue over it.

  • 12.23.2012 1:46 PM PDT

Quick as a razor, sharp as a bullet.

OP is mad and should feel bad

  • 12.23.2012 1:47 PM PDT

Halo 2? Why the -blam!- is that being targeted now, simply because 343 made a -blam!- game you need to point the finger to a different game and say "Well that was bad, too! LOLOL FANBOYS"

  • 12.23.2012 1:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: aTALLmidget
Halo 2? Why the -blam!- is that being targeted now, simply because 343 made a -blam!- game you need to point the finger to a different game and say "Well that was bad, too! LOLOL FANBOYS"



I will name this post "the tears of a fanboy".

  • 12.23.2012 1:55 PM PDT


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Posted by: aTALLmidget
Halo 2? Why the -blam!- is that being targeted now, simply because 343 made a -blam!- game you need to point the finger to a different game and say "Well that was bad, too! LOLOL FANBOYS"



I will name this post "the tears of a fanboy".


Cute, though I don't see how that was a fanboy's post at all.

  • 12.23.2012 1:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: aTALLmidget
I don't see how that was a fanboy's post at all.


In all honesty, if you thought your own post was that of a fanboys, I would be very surprised.

  • 12.23.2012 1:58 PM PDT

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Halo 2 was the best Halo game
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Seems like a good troll, but Halo 2 was the best. No nostalgia, no bull, just a great game for its time.

I've been playing Halo since Ce came out all those years ago as well. I have a crap ton of games played in Halo 2, 3, and 4 for all of you to look at and can safely say I know which games were better then the others. Halo 2 >>>>> Ce, 3, 4, and ODST (if you even count that as a true game in the Halo series).

  • 12.23.2012 1:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Edmi Wohusee
"Stop having an opinion!"

He's not directly saying to stop having an opinion. The message he's trying to get out is to stop praising Halo 2 constantly.


Holy crap! Someone who can read and comprehend.

And what exactly is the difference?

  • 12.23.2012 2:12 PM PDT


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Posted by: aTALLmidget
I don't see how that was a fanboy's post at all.


In all honesty, if you thought your own post was that of a fanboys, I would be very surprised.


As would I, lol

  • 12.23.2012 2:13 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

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At your attempts at trolling.
Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
I've been playing Halo games since day one of CE back in 2001 and let me tell you, Halo 2 is not that great. PERIOD!

If Halo 2 were to be released today with full online capability, it would be flooded with nostalgia fanboys who would be drooling at the mouth. Upon playing it, they would see it wasn't that great of a game. After about a month it would die off and people would go back to playing the latest Halo.

Halo 2 had the worst campaign in the entire franchise. Harsh, but it's true. The only thing that was good about it was it dived into the lore of how the Covenant worked. THAT'S IT!

Out of all video games, Halo 2 had to have one of the worst ending ever.Halo 3's campaign was thousand times better and ODST's campaign is by far the best campaign of the franchise.

Multiplayer is NOT the staple of the Halo franchise. Let's be honest here. The only reason some of you if not most think it's the greatest since sliced bread is you could cheat all to hell in it. Yea I said it. I will never understand what the draw is to flying around in warthogs, super jumping, that cheat that made you move around the map like Neo at light speed, or whatever other dumbass cheat that ruined the multiplayer for everyone else.

Now granted, there were a couple.........a COUPLE and a couple only, maps that were decent. The one in the snow with the button activated armored doors and Lockout.

People really need to pop their personal bubble of nostalgia and get over it. I honestly think one of the main reasons why people say......SAY they don't care for the newer Halo's multiplayer is because they can't exploit or cheat their way through it like they could in Halo 2.

The devs and the MAJORITY of gamers have moved on, why can't you?


[Edited on 12.23.2012 2:16 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 2:14 PM PDT

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  • 12.23.2012 2:15 PM PDT
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worst campaign of the trilogy, best MP of any Halo game...ever

  • 12.23.2012 2:18 PM PDT

Halo 2 is easily one of the best Halos in terms of multiplayer.

  • 12.23.2012 2:22 PM PDT

There's no way to get back experiences you missed.
So start right now today and risk furiousness for bliss.

ITT Opinions, opinions everywhere!

I love Halo 2 and I will continue to defend it's greatness despite your little rant on why you think I shouldn't

  • 12.23.2012 2:38 PM PDT

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no its legit, i used coordinates, set weapon timers the works.


Posted by: A Billfish
ITT Opinions, opinions everywhere!

I love Halo 2 and I will continue to defend it's greatness despite your little rant on why you think I shouldn't


If you step away from the fanboyism, you would see it's not that great.

  • 12.23.2012 3:49 PM PDT

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Goat was famous. Irie was infamous. Gh0st was FaMaS.

My stats in Halol 4

Typical Waypoint post.
no it's "its got to go" you wouldn't say the "it is got to go" would you?


Posted by: xBADMAGIKx

Posted by: A Billfish
ITT Opinions, opinions everywhere!

I love Halo 2 and I will continue to defend it's greatness despite your little rant on why you think I shouldn't


If you step away from the fanboyism, you would see it's not that great.
If you stopped wearing pants on your head, you'd see Halo 4 is a terrible game too.

  • 12.23.2012 3:52 PM PDT


Posted by: xBADMAGIKx


-Major Grade 3 in Halo 3

I see why you didn't like the old games.

  • 12.23.2012 3:53 PM PDT

I win, you lose, get over it!


Posted by: xBADMAGIKx
Multiplayer is NOT the staple of the Halo franchise.



This is the whole reason why it was so successful on Xbox Live.

  • 12.23.2012 3:55 PM PDT

Why Bungie, why would you do this?! - Halo Community

-Redacted-

[Edited on 12.23.2012 6:06 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 6:04 PM PDT