- ROBERTO jh
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Posted by: Gaara444
No, no, no, no, no. There is so much wrong here I can't even fathom all of it.
1. Some mysteries are better left unanswered. Besides, they could have expanded the story of the remaining Halos through books and other media.
Why not a game if you're going to resolve it anyway?
2. He didn't say anything about coming back. Where are you getting that from?
"Defeat is simply an addition of time, to a sentence I never deserved, but you....imposed."
3. No, Bias screams that his own story was done, that doesn't mean that chiefs couldn't have been finished.
He tells you that he will be sending you to the Forerunners, and that the path ahead is frought with peril. I don't see how that can be taken any other way.
4. The remaining Forerunners being alive is just a plot device to make Halo 4 (the sequel).
It was introduced in Halo 3 and had been eternally hinted at throughout the trilogy, with the Great Journey and all that.
5. Once again, plot device.
Introduced in Halo 3.
6. The Precursors should stay as they are now, expanding on them would ruin them.
Ruin what? Because other than that the Forerunners revered them as gods, we knew nothing at that point.
7. He could have been talking about their death, as he might have planned to die also.
He's referring to finding the Precursors, the Great Journey's true meaning.
8. No, the point of mankind becoming guardians was the point of this new trilogy (which wasn't needed). Halo's 1, 2, and 3 had nothing to do with mankind becoming guardians. It was all about them trying to survive.
No it wasn't. Consistently throughout Halo's 1-3, 343 Spark referred to you as a Reclaimer. He constantly mistakes you for a Forerunner, and outright says that you are the inheritors of all they left behind. The plot may be about mankind trying to survive, but themes and plot are two different things. Our actions in the Covenant war--our tenacity, our resolve, our will to fight and survive--juxtaposed against the Covenant's blind fanaticism, obedience and worship, was to show why we of all races were chosen to inherit the Mantle.
That this is the thematic point of the series has been so in every written work for the franchise. Everything feeds into the idea of the Reclaimer. It may not have been directly the plot itself, not yet, but that's the definition of thematic subtext.
9. The Covenant is supposed to be dissolved. This crap of "They're still remnants out there" is only a half argument since remnants of a dead faction should not be this large. They would have been plunged into a second civil war after Halo 3 before they could gather together again.
They were. When Jul "Mdama discovers that the Forerunners are still alive, and that he can read their language, the Elites revere him as Catholics revere the Pope. A messenger from God(s).
Thus, those still loyal to the ideals of the original Covenant split off from the Arbiter and join Jul. People thinking you are literally a messenger from God can make a guy pretty powerful very fast.
10. Did you even read the terminals in Halo 3 all the way through, or just the parts you could use for your argument? The Librarian thought that the humans were the overall more deserving species of her care since they were so weak (at the time this was created, there was no "Humans were space faring before" plot device).
Our ancient empire is not the reason. We still don't know for sure what the reason is, but our unique ability to adapt and grow and learn is sure part of it. Again, juxtapose those traits next to the Covenant's.
11. She's dead. Dead dead dead dead dead dead DEAD. She's gone. No more! DEAD!
You missed his point. Halo 3 brought no closure for Cortana. Halo 4 did.
12. What the Hell are you talking about? MC is not a messenger, he's someone Bias chose to follow before Bias finally died at The Ark. MC is no "messenger" since there was no message to be delivered.
The messege is that Medicant Bias has seen the error of his ways. Bias wanted the Forerunners to know he atoned for his sins, and in order to do that, he protects the Chief and sends him to the Forerunners as proof that he now respects life once again.
Halo 4 did nothing but mark the new trilogies presence in the Halo Universe and was ultimately not needed since no one asked for a new trilogy. Do people want closure to Halo 3? Yes. Do we need to do it by having a new trilogy of games? No. I'm sick of the blind Halo love especially when the lore is starting to degrade in quality.
Posted by: ajw34307
People saying Halo 4... -_-
Posted by: Gaara444
Neither did Halo 4. The only way you could figure out partially what was going on is to read the books. And if you have to go to external media just to figure out the story of the game, it just further shows how bad the story for the game was.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
With 10-12 major plot points left hanging, not only was Halo 4 inevitable, but necessary for the artistic integrity of the series' story. The game resolved literally nothing that the previous games introduced.
Halo 4 resolved Cortana's story by giving her a proper death and a proper resolution to her fate as an AI. It helped explain the final fate of the forerunners and gave the first piece of the puzzel towards our "specialness." It explained what happened to the Covenant post-Halo 3.
And don't give me that bull-blam!- that the game doesn't explain anything about them. The game tells you they are strangely fanatical, aren't outfitted like standard military, implies they are a rogue group, and in SP:ops, they are called terrorists and criminals being lead by an Elite rather than a Prophet, juxtaposed against the "peaceful" asylum seekers back on earth.
Stacked on top of common sense--that not all Elites would just throw up their arms and embrace their entire religion collapsing around them--if you can't figure out why the Covies are hostile again, you must lack basic comprehension skills. The game does literally everything except tell you flat out what the Storm is. Do we need to go back to games where the story holds your hand the whole time?
I mean Jesus, a ten year old down the street from my house figured it out and he only has a rudimentary understanding of Halo's backstory.
[Edited on 12.24.2012 11:26 AM PST]