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Subject: Do you belive in ghosts?

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Posted by: SRQ baller24

Posted by: Prototype117

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No. I'm atheist. Therefor, I realise that you should only come up with an idea if it is logical. *Spok face*

Also can someone explain this The photo is the appearance of st Mary standing on a Coptic orthodox church. Now im not saying this in a religious perspective but in a supernatural perspective. Thousands of people have seen this appearance (Including my grandfathers and great grandfathers) and there are many many photos from different angles. Can someone who only strongly beliefs in science and fact explain this. Also i am in no way preaching religion, but this is the greatest occurance of the supernatural so i thought it would fit in.

You would think out of the thousands of people that have seen it, one of them would have had a decent camera...or did this appearance only occur back when cameras weren't very good?

Occurred in the 50s.
EDIT: 1968 sorry.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 6:06 AM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 6:05 AM PDT
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  • 12.24.2012 6:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: SRQ baller24

Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: MattallicA09lol
No. I'm atheist. Therefor, I realise that you should only come up with an idea if it is logical. *Spok face*

Also can someone explain this The photo is the appearance of st Mary standing on a Coptic orthodox church. Now im not saying this in a religious perspective but in a supernatural perspective. Thousands of people have seen this appearance (Including my grandfathers and great grandfathers) and there are many many photos from different angles. Can someone who only strongly beliefs in science and fact explain this. Also i am in no way preaching religion, but this is the greatest occurance of the supernatural so i thought it would fit in.

You would think out of the thousands of people that have seen it, one of them would have had a decent camera...or did this appearance only occur back when cameras weren't very good?


You are forgetting a very important thing. Whenever ghosts appear they have this magical effect which means that the quality of any photographs taken deteriorates and makes it look like -blam!-.

I tell you, its MAGIC!!

  • 12.24.2012 6:08 AM PDT

Also, you would think evidence of ghosts would have skyrocketed in the recent years with so many people have high quality cameras in there phones. Ghosts must be camera shy.

  • 12.24.2012 6:09 AM PDT

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Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: SRQ baller24

Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: MattallicA09lol
No. I'm atheist. Therefor, I realise that you should only come up with an idea if it is logical. *Spok face*

Also can someone explain this The photo is the appearance of st Mary standing on a Coptic orthodox church. Now im not saying this in a religious perspective but in a supernatural perspective. Thousands of people have seen this appearance (Including my grandfathers and great grandfathers) and there are many many photos from different angles. Can someone who only strongly beliefs in science and fact explain this. Also i am in no way preaching religion, but this is the greatest occurance of the supernatural so i thought it would fit in.

You would think out of the thousands of people that have seen it, one of them would have had a decent camera...or did this appearance only occur back when cameras weren't very good?


You are forgetting a very important thing. Whenever ghosts appear they have this magical effect which means that the quality of any photographs taken deteriorates and makes it look like -blam!-.

I tell you, its MAGIC!!

I will say again. It happened in 1968 please understand this.

  • 12.24.2012 6:09 AM PDT

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  • 12.24.2012 6:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: xAT 117x
Take the Higgs Boson, aptly named the "God particle", it was proposed that this is the subatomic particle that gives objects mass. At first this was similar to believing that ghosts exist, there was no evidence. But they constructed the Large Hadron Collider and subsequently found evidence for it. Yet no evidence can be found for ghosts. Strange...



You mean the "Goddamn particle", right?

  • 12.24.2012 6:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Prototype117
I will say again. It happened in 1968 please understand this.


In 1968 photography was at a fairly good standard where you could actually see the thing you were photographing. The image you linked looked like it came from 1868 if anything.

This unexplained drop in quality of the photograph is the very reason that most people don't believe you when you spout these photos out of nowhere.

  • 12.24.2012 6:32 AM PDT

I don't belive in ghosts but I do believe in ghosts

  • 12.24.2012 6:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117
I will say again. It happened in 1968 please understand this.


In 1968 photography was at a fairly good standard where you could actually see the thing you were photographing. The image you linked looked like it came from 1868 if anything.

This unexplained drop in quality of the photograph is the very reason that most people don't believe you when you spout these photos out of nowhere.

1. Appeared in poor neighborhood. Poor cameras.
2. It was said that light was coming out of the figure therefore you cant really see detail of the apparition.
3. It was all over the Egyptian news. If you ask a christian in Egypt about they can tell you what happened in detail.

  • 12.24.2012 6:38 AM PDT

nope, I don't believe in ghosts.

  • 12.24.2012 7:01 AM PDT

http://i.imgur.com/fsISj.png

Ghosts don't exist. Anybody who says otherwise is being a massive f**king idiot.

  • 12.24.2012 7:07 AM PDT

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No.

I'll believe in them when I see some ghosts or ghostly activity for myself.

  • 12.24.2012 7:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: annoyinginge
Ghosts don't exist. Anybody who says otherwise is being a massive f**king idiot.
>Attitude i'm annoyed by

If you don't believe in something, that's okay, I respect that...until you start acting like a dick about it.

  • 12.24.2012 7:23 AM PDT

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Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117
I will say again. It happened in 1968 please understand this.


In 1968 photography was at a fairly good standard where you could actually see the thing you were photographing. The image you linked looked like it came from 1868 if anything.

This unexplained drop in quality of the photograph is the very reason that most people don't believe you when you spout these photos out of nowhere.

1. Appeared in poor neighborhood. Poor cameras.
2. It was said that light was coming out of the figure therefore you cant really see detail of the apparition.
3. It was all over the Egyptian news. If you ask a christian in Egypt about they can tell you what happened in detail.


There have been plenty of times when hoax UFO sightings have made it onto the news, and there are probably thousands of people that could give you an account of said hoax. It doesn't prove anything.

If you believe in ghosts then you really have to believe in Santa Claus, Pixies, and Unicorns, and if you think any of those is silly then just compare it to your own belief.

Oh, did I forget to mention I have the ability to fly and turn invisible? Only I do them both at the same time so there isn't any way to disprove me and I don't feel like doing it when asked.

  • 12.24.2012 7:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: xAT 117x

If you believe in ghosts then you really have to believe in Santa Claus, Pixies, and Unicorns, and if you think any of those is silly then just compare it to your own belief.


You're efforts are pointless. Let me explain it to you.
If someone has had a personal experience, they'll believe in it. If someone hasn't, why would they believe?
Simple. Trying to talking someone into or out of it is a waste of your time. So stop trying.

  • 12.24.2012 7:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117
I will say again. It happened in 1968 please understand this.


In 1968 photography was at a fairly good standard where you could actually see the thing you were photographing. The image you linked looked like it came from 1868 if anything.

This unexplained drop in quality of the photograph is the very reason that most people don't believe you when you spout these photos out of nowhere.

1. Appeared in poor neighborhood. Poor cameras.
2. It was said that light was coming out of the figure therefore you cant really see detail of the apparition.
3. It was all over the Egyptian news. If you ask a christian in Egypt about they can tell you what happened in detail.


There have been plenty of times when hoax UFO sightings have made it onto the news, and there are probably thousands of people that could give you an account of said hoax. It doesn't prove anything.

If you believe in ghosts then you really have to believe in Santa Claus, Pixies, and Unicorns, and if you think any of those is silly then just compare it to your own belief.

Oh, did I forget to mention I have the ability to fly and turn invisible? Only I do them both at the same time so there isn't any way to disprove me and I don't feel like doing it when asked.

There is nothing really you can say against that photo its all the proof you need. Telling me about UFO's is bull-blam!- and doesn't prove your point in anyway. You just refuse to admit this photo is not a hoax either from fear or ignorance. And because of this your throwing around these pathetic acts of mockery that just make you look stupid.

  • 12.24.2012 7:42 AM PDT

What are these first person words you speak of?

No. Teh puma has yet to see any evidence for them existing. A slight breeze, or changes in air pressure that close doors isn't a haunting.

  • 12.24.2012 7:49 AM PDT

What are these first person words you speak of?


Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117

Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117
I will say again. It happened in 1968 please understand this.


In 1968 photography was at a fairly good standard where you could actually see the thing you were photographing. The image you linked looked like it came from 1868 if anything.

This unexplained drop in quality of the photograph is the very reason that most people don't believe you when you spout these photos out of nowhere.

1. Appeared in poor neighborhood. Poor cameras.
2. It was said that light was coming out of the figure therefore you cant really see detail of the apparition.
3. It was all over the Egyptian news. If you ask a christian in Egypt about they can tell you what happened in detail.


There have been plenty of times when hoax UFO sightings have made it onto the news, and there are probably thousands of people that could give you an account of said hoax. It doesn't prove anything.

If you believe in ghosts then you really have to believe in Santa Claus, Pixies, and Unicorns, and if you think any of those is silly then just compare it to your own belief.

Oh, did I forget to mention I have the ability to fly and turn invisible? Only I do them both at the same time so there isn't any way to disprove me and I don't feel like doing it when asked.

There is nothing really you can say against that photo its all the proof you need. Telling me about UFO's is bull-blam!- and doesn't prove your point in anyway. You just refuse to admit this photo is not a hoax either from fear or ignorance. And because of this your throwing around these pathetic acts of mockery that just make you look stupid.


From this post, teh puma can't tell if you're still arguing for your case, or against it.

  • 12.24.2012 7:51 AM PDT
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I didn't until recently. For those who want to read an interesting story on why, read on, if you don't want a wall'o'text or whatever, then you got your answer, just scroll down.


During my first deployment to Afghanistan we got stuck on a rather small COP (Combat Outpost) about the size of a football field. The COP in question has seen some rough days, and many lives have been lost fighting to protect it from hordes of insurgent fighters. It's become rather infamous, and for the longest time was rated the worst place in Afghanistan (not joking).

During the most famous attack, over 200 insurgents charged the COP getting within 50 feet of the wall. This attack left 2 dead, and roughly 20 wounded, but somehow they managed to fight off the seemingly endless horde after hours of fighting. Fast forward a bit to when we got there 2 years later.

We got stuck guarding the compound by sitting up in towers, perched overlooking the mountainous area peaking up from each corner of the COP. 2 of those towers faced towards where that attack came from, and where the Taliban and insurgent fighters numbering at least 3 digits called home. Initially a few people came down from one of the towers asking around wondering if someone went up to see them at night, but we dismissed it as being the rabid dogs.

After a few weeks though, the reports came in around the same time. Around midnight, footsteps would be heard walking across the COP. People would hear them at one area and claimed it sounded like someone walked past. Those footsteps would be heard going all the way to those two towers, originating where those 2 unfortunate soldiers died.

It took us a while to get everything straight, and besides saying they heard footsteps nobody really talked about it all. I never believed the stories until I got stuck in one of those towers on a cold night. It sounded like someone was coming up the stairs so I turned on my flashlight and looked around outside, nothing. At this point I was still skeptical, but then the board that sat at the bottom of the stairs made a clap, as if someone stepped on it.

I looked through the small peep-hole window and saw someone standing there, looking up at me wearing an older uniform. Out of curiousity, I opened the door, and low and behold, he was no longer there.

I discussed the event with a few friends, and they claimed to have seen the same thing. Among those accounts, people started opening up more about it. In those two guard towers, people had the doors open, heard footsteps, saw somebody either standing there looking at them, or standing outside looking out towards where the fighters came from. One event even sent a full grown man running out of the tower screaming, pale, and sweating. It took him a good day to even talk about it all.

Most people started refusing to go up there out of fear. Up until my time sitting in those towers, I never really believed in ghosts, but you be damned sure I do now. Whether or not you believe this is all up to you, but 60 others will vouch for those occurences.

  • 12.24.2012 8:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Prototype117
There is nothing really you can say against that photo its all the proof you need. Telling me about UFO's is bull-blam!- and doesn't prove your point in anyway. You just refuse to admit this photo is not a hoax either from fear or ignorance. And because of this your throwing around these pathetic acts of mockery that just make you look stupid.


It actually proves my point quite nicely and that is, that people are ready and willing to believe in things that have no credible evidence to support them.

As Teh Puma said above me, people see doors that slam seemingly on their own, and attribute them to ghosts. When in reality it is a scientific principle of air pressure change.

Lastly, if you were really that confident in your belief that ghosts are real, you wouldn't need to get that angry/offended when someone challenges it. I refuse to admit that things are not hoaxes because I base my knowledge in facts and science. I am neither ignorant nor fearful of your mumbo jumbo.

  • 12.24.2012 8:44 AM PDT
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Ghosts? No. Ghosts are just cheap explanations for people too lazy to investigate the true cause of a particular event.

  • 12.24.2012 8:46 AM PDT


Posted by: xAT 117x

Posted by: Prototype117

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there is no such thing as scientific evidence, science is a collection of theorys, and possibillities,nothing in science is absolute fact, and therefore canont be used as evidence. this is what many scientists have told me, specifically my physics, chemistry and biology teachers.

SO MUCH -blam!- THIS. You are a genius. People these days think " if science hasn't proven its not real hurr durr." So -blam!- stupid.


You two need to go back to school.

Science deals totally in facts and the pursuit of truth. I know in chemistry that when I add two molecules together under certain conditions that a specific reaction will take place 100% of the time. It is a FACT.

In Physics we are able to do calculations based on laws of physics and nature that can get a rocket to the moon. Do you really think that was based on theory alone?

Science deals with cold hard facts. A theory is proposed, it is extensively researched by experimentation and is then either proved or disproved. If exhaustive experimentation can find no proof of something, how is it then reasonable to suggest it exists? It simply isn't. Science deals in measurable quantities, and ghosts and pixies just simply aren't that.

Take the Higgs Boson, aptly named the "God particle", it was proposed that this is the subatomic particle that gives objects mass. At first this was similar to believing that ghosts exist, there was no evidence. But they constructed the Large Hadron Collider and subsequently found evidence for it. Yet no evidence can be found for ghosts. Strange...

The fact that you applaud someone for thinking that there is no such thing as scientific evidence proves your stupidity.
The BigBangTheory wasn't a fact so it's not 100% true...

  • 12.24.2012 9:08 AM PDT
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13.72 billion years in the making.

On December 1st, 2012, I met Neil deGrasse Tyson. I shook the man's hand, and even made him laugh. Not much else to do with my life now.

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Did you or do you plan on posting those milk/wire tipping over things?

  • 12.24.2012 9:11 AM PDT

Try to ask some friends or locals if there is any sightings of paranormal evidence in certain places, you might find a place...

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