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Subject: Which Black Ops II ending do you think is canon? *spoilers*

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So, it's pretty obvious there will be a Black Ops 3, and it will more than likely be built somewhat off of the previous title. So, which of the endings will be canon?

Did Karma stop the cyber attack? Does the US and China cement an alliance? Did Harper die? What about Woods or Alex Mason or even Menendez?

I'm happy that there is a game here player choices completely decide the ending. Especially nice you have no idea about what will happen until you do it.

So, your opinion?

  • 12.23.2012 11:55 PM PDT

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I think both are, it's like a "what if" scenario.

  • 12.23.2012 11:56 PM PDT

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  • 12.23.2012 11:56 PM PDT

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I think that canon ending is Mason letting Menendez live, Karma lives, Harper dies, Woods lives and meets Alex Mason again. I think somehow if there was to be a Black Ops 3, Menendez might escape from prison somehow.

[Edited on 12.23.2012 11:57 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 11:57 PM PDT

Allons-y!

I assume they'll pull a Mass Effect style thing and carry over your choices.

  • 12.23.2012 11:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: God Of Men
I think that canon ending is Mason letting Menendez live, Karma lives, Harper dies, Woods lives and meets Alex Mason again. I think somehow if there was to be a Black Ops 3, Menendez might escape from prison somehow.
so, the over all best ending.

I dunno, I like the set up of Menendez striking again. I agree with you, but I hope that we're wrong.

[Edited on 12.23.2012 11:59 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2012 11:59 PM PDT

Hmm...probably what Morrowind did with Daggerfall and make the canon ending a mixture of the different possible contradictory ending.

But seriously, probably the ending where all three people who decide what kind of ending you get are alive. So the best ending.

Another thing to consider with this is that many elements of the story only work if other events are in place. For example, for Karma to survive, Harper must be dead and the Obama must survive. In order for the Obama to survive, you must ally with China. Fail to accomplish any of those things, and Karma doesn't come out alive.

  • 12.24.2012 12:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: God Of Men
I think that canon ending is Mason letting Menendez live, Karma lives, Harper dies, Woods lives and meets Alex Mason again. I think somehow if there was to be a Black Ops 3, Menendez might escape from prison somehow.
so, the over all best ending.

I dunno, I like the set up of Menendez striking again. I agree with you, but I hope that we're wrong.
I want Menendez to escape as well, but the only ending he does that in is when Karma dies. He also... kind of lights himself on fire... Maybe Treyarch will retcon something later.

  • 12.24.2012 12:00 AM PDT

I hope it's the perfect ending.

  • 12.24.2012 12:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: everywhere116
Hmm...probably what Morrowind did with Daggerfall and make the canon ending a mixture of the different possible contradictory ending.

But seriously, probably the ending where all three people who decide what kind of ending you get are alive. So the best ending.

Another thing to consider with this is that many elements of the story only work if other events are in place. For example, for Karma to survive, Harper must be dead and the Obama must survive. In order for the Obama to survive, you must ally with China. Fail to accomplish any of those things, and Karma doesn't come out alive.
so, the best ending because its the hardest to earn.

Yeh, this feels right, but I hope we get to see some ugliness. The middle story is supposed to be the darkest.

  • 12.24.2012 12:01 AM PDT


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Posted by: everywhere116
Hmm...probably what Morrowind did with Daggerfall and make the canon ending a mixture of the different possible contradictory ending.

But seriously, probably the ending where all three people who decide what kind of ending you get are alive. So the best ending.

Another thing to consider with this is that many elements of the story only work if other events are in place. For example, for Karma to survive, Harper must be dead and the Obama must survive. In order for the Obama to survive, you must ally with China. Fail to accomplish any of those things, and Karma doesn't come out alive.
so, the best ending because its the hardest to earn.

Yeh, this feels right, but I hope we get to see some ugliness. The middle story is supposed to be the darkest.
There are eight possible endings. I don't know which one is supposed to be the middle story.

  • 12.24.2012 12:02 AM PDT
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Methinks the canon ending was the one i got.

Menendez tricks woods into killing mason
Karma stops the cyber attack
And menendez kills woods at the end

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:03 AM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:02 AM PDT


Posted by: sims3k
Methinks the canon ending was the one i got.


Harper lives
Karma stops the cyber attack
Pick one.

  • 12.24.2012 12:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: everywhere116

Posted by: sims3k
Methinks the canon ending was the one i got.


Harper lives
Karma stops the cyber attack
Pick one.


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  • 12.24.2012 12:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: everywhere116

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Posted by: everywhere116
Hmm...probably what Morrowind did with Daggerfall and make the canon ending a mixture of the different possible contradictory ending.

But seriously, probably the ending where all three people who decide what kind of ending you get are alive. So the best ending.

Another thing to consider with this is that many elements of the story only work if other events are in place. For example, for Karma to survive, Harper must be dead and the Obama must survive. In order for the Obama to survive, you must ally with China. Fail to accomplish any of those things, and Karma doesn't come out alive.
so, the best ending because its the hardest to earn.

Yeh, this feels right, but I hope we get to see some ugliness. The middle story is supposed to be the darkest.
There are eight possible endings. I don't know which one is supposed to be the middle story.


Black Ops II is the middle story. It's the Empre Strikes Back of the series. So, even though we won, it's a small victory in a series of setbacks.

  • 12.24.2012 12:04 AM PDT


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Posted by: everywhere116

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Posted by: everywhere116
Hmm...probably what Morrowind did with Daggerfall and make the canon ending a mixture of the different possible contradictory ending.

But seriously, probably the ending where all three people who decide what kind of ending you get are alive. So the best ending.

Another thing to consider with this is that many elements of the story only work if other events are in place. For example, for Karma to survive, Harper must be dead and the Obama must survive. In order for the Obama to survive, you must ally with China. Fail to accomplish any of those things, and Karma doesn't come out alive.
so, the best ending because its the hardest to earn.

Yeh, this feels right, but I hope we get to see some ugliness. The middle story is supposed to be the darkest.
There are eight possible endings. I don't know which one is supposed to be the middle story.


Black Ops II is the middle story. It's the Empre Strikes Back of the series. So, even though we won, it's a small victory in a series of setbacks.
Oh, I see now.

Wouldn't BO1 be the middle story, though? It was the sequel to WaW.

  • 12.24.2012 12:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: everywhere116

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: everywhere116

Posted by: MyNameIsCharlie

Posted by: everywhere116
Hmm...probably what Morrowind did with Daggerfall and make the canon ending a mixture of the different possible contradictory ending.

But seriously, probably the ending where all three people who decide what kind of ending you get are alive. So the best ending.

Another thing to consider with this is that many elements of the story only work if other events are in place. For example, for Karma to survive, Harper must be dead and the Obama must survive. In order for the Obama to survive, you must ally with China. Fail to accomplish any of those things, and Karma doesn't come out alive.
so, the best ending because its the hardest to earn.

Yeh, this feels right, but I hope we get to see some ugliness. The middle story is supposed to be the darkest.
There are eight possible endings. I don't know which one is supposed to be the middle story.


Black Ops II is the middle story. It's the Empre Strikes Back of the series. So, even though we won, it's a small victory in a series of setbacks.
Oh, I see now.

Wouldn't BO1 be the middle story, though? It was the sequel to WaW.


Might have been, but it looks like Black Ops is the arc now.

[Edited on 12.24.2012 12:08 AM PST]

  • 12.24.2012 12:08 AM PDT

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The campaign was retarded as hell. HERP A DERP CHINA AND MURRICA FACES IMMINENT ANNIHILATION FROM A COUPLE OF DRONES!!!!!

I love how they feel the need to over-dramatize each game more than the last one.

OT: I don't even remember the ending. Something to do with killing Menendez?

  • 12.24.2012 12:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: OdorousLicense3
The campaign was retarded as hell. HERP A DERP CHINA AND MURRICA FACES IMMINENT ANNIHILATION FROM A COUPLE OF DRONES!!!!!

I love how they feel the need to over-dramatize each game more than the last one.

OT: I don't even remember the ending. Something to do with killing Menendez?
the only herp a derp I see is your post.

  • 12.24.2012 12:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: OdorousLicense3
The campaign was retarded as hell. HERP A DERP CHINA AND MURRICA FACES IMMINENT ANNIHILATION FROM A COUPLE OF DRONES!!!!!

I love how they feel the need to over-dramatize each game more than the last one.

OT: I don't even remember the ending. Something to do with killing Menendez?


It was acshully not a couple of drones, but nearly the entire us drone fleet, accompanied by mercenaries and rebel forces.

  • 12.24.2012 12:14 AM PDT

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Menendez lives, Section lives, Harper lives, Karma dies, NATO and SDC forge alliance, Woods dies.

  • 12.24.2012 12:38 AM PDT

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It'd be cool if the campaign direction was based off your outcome, somewhat.

  • 12.24.2012 12:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: OdorousLicense3
The campaign was retarded as hell. HERP A DERP CHINA AND MURRICA FACES IMMINENT ANNIHILATION FROM A COUPLE OF DRONES!!!!!

I love how they feel the need to over-dramatize each game more than the last one.

OT: I don't even remember the ending. Something to do with killing Menendez?


It was acshully not a couple of drones, but nearly the entire us drone fleet, accompanied by mercenaries and rebel forces.
Yeah, LOL! I laughed my ass off when the invaders were just mercs and some rebels. I also lol'd when the rebels were riding up in damn semi-trucks. Just shows how unqualified they are at fighting a military, let alone the LAPD.

  • 12.24.2012 12:44 AM PDT


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Posted by: OdorousLicense3
The campaign was retarded as hell. HERP A DERP CHINA AND MURRICA FACES IMMINENT ANNIHILATION FROM A COUPLE OF DRONES!!!!!

I love how they feel the need to over-dramatize each game more than the last one.

OT: I don't even remember the ending. Something to do with killing Menendez?


It was acshully not a couple of drones, but nearly the entire us drone fleet, accompanied by mercenaries and rebel forces.
Yeah, LOL! I laughed my ass off when the invaders were just mercs and some rebels. I also lol'd when the rebels were riding up in damn semi-trucks. Just shows how unqualified they are at fighting a military, let alone the LAPD.


Menendez's followers weren't an organized military. They were PMCs and people who were sick of the government's rule over them. With the drones on their side they had a good chance of taking out the world's leaders and helping menendez to take over so he could bring a new world order.

  • 12.24.2012 12:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: BROWN HAWK
It'd be cool if the campaign direction was based off your outcome, somewhat.
actually, I hope it is.

But I hope it isn't a direct sequel, but in the same way 2 is a later sequel to one.

  • 12.24.2012 8:05 AM PDT

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